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"I Am a Ukrainian" is an Internet viral video, first posted on YouTube in 2014 featuring a young Ukrainian woman supporting the protestors in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. At the woman's request, British photographer Graham Mitchell filmed her speaking on the Maidan, and her friend, Ben Moses, edited the material into video he posted on her behalf on YouTube. By late March that year the video had been viewed over 8 million times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Ukrainian
United States Department of State Unknown America "Неизвестная Америка"
Различия между американцами и русскими.
19 февраля 2020 года. Я в эфире все время.
The differences between Americans and Russians.
February 19 2020. I am in the broadcast throughout.
https://www.facebook.com/moscowamerican3/videos/256903392296121/
https://web.facebook.com/moscowamerican3/videos/256903392296121/]]
00:02 | [музыка] | [music] |
00:19 | гипотеза не истинно или ложно получив | hypothesis is not true or false |
00:23 | подтверждение гипотезы становятся | confirmation of the hypothesis becomes |
00:25 | научной истины а гипотеза которая не | scientific truth and a hypothesis that is not |
00:28 | находит подтверждение превращается | finds confirmation turns |
00:31 | научную | scientific |
00:33 | вы смотрите самые шокирующие гипотезы | you are watching the most shocking hypotheses |
00:37 | единственный проект из которого вы | the only project from which you |
00:39 | можете узнать альтернативную точку | you can find out an alternative point |
00:41 | зрения на устройство окружающего мира | vision on the structure of the surrounding world |
00:44 | все что вы сегодня увидите и услышите | all that you will see and hear today |
00:46 | сильно отличается от взглядов | very different from views |
00:49 | официальной науки | official science |
00:50 | но в этом и смысл проекта наша задача | but this is the meaning of the project, our task |
00:53 | дать вам информацию о самых разная | give you information about the most diverse |
00:55 | гипотезах которые существуют | hypotheses that exist |
00:57 | а уж соглашаться с ними или не | let alone agree with them or not |
00:59 | соглашаться | agree |
01:00 | решать вам и так сегодня в нашей | it's up to you and so today in our |
01:02 | программе вы увидите обратная сторона | the program you will see the reverse side |
01:06 | америке кому что так жить хорошо слышен | America, who has something to live like this, is well heard |
01:10 | уже можно если | already possible if |
01:11 | если ты знаю всех нужных людей серийные | if you know all the right people serial |
01:15 | маньяки и гигантские кредиты | maniacs and giant loans |
01:17 | чего еще боятся американцы до конца не | What else are Americans afraid of? |
01:21 | сразу станет с русских на коже бояться | will immediately become afraid of Russians on the skin |
01:25 | уже отпуске | already on vacation |
01:26 | квест на выживание как устроен | survival quest how it works |
01:29 | американский быт это наш беленький домик | American life is our little white house |
01:31 | мы его называем | we call him |
01:32 | амбар у такой вот true american house | a barn near such a true american house |
01:35 | вся правда об американском образе жизни | the whole truth about the American way of life |
01:39 | почему тысячи мигрантов все еще едут в | why are thousands of migrants still going to |
01:42 | сша а вот уж тебя попиарить они уме | USA but they really need to promote you |
01:45 | во всех писем процент | percentage in all letters |
01:46 | [музыка] | [music] |
01:52 | взгляните на эти автомобили кузов в | take a look at these cars bodywork in |
01:55 | отличном состоянии | excellent condition |
01:56 | шины и диски на месте двигатель | tires and wheels in place engine |
01:59 | заводится все фары рабочие вы не | all headlights start working you do not |
02:01 | поверите скоро все эти иномарки пойдут | believe soon all these foreign cars will go |
02:04 | под пресс и лучшем случае их успеют | under pressure and at best they will be in time |
02:07 | разобрать на запчасти | disassemble for parts |
02:09 | это одна из самых больших свалок | this is one of the largest landfills |
02:12 | брошенных авто в соединенных штатах | abandoned cars in the united states |
02:14 | америки или клал меня поменять можно ну | America or put me to change, you can well |
02:18 | машин или сразу на свалку почему так | cars or immediately to the landfill why so |
02:20 | рыба у нас легковушки служат десятилетий | our fish cars serve for decades |
02:23 | и эти модели наверняка сменили бы ни | and these models would surely change neither |
02:26 | одного владельца но в америке все иначе | one owner but in america everything is different |
02:29 | если машина требует ремонта дешевле от | if the car needs repair cheaper from |
02:32 | нее отказаться и получить приличную | refuse it and get a decent |
02:35 | страховку ему 88 процентов американцев | insured him 88 percent of Americans |
02:39 | есть автомобиль в америке у тебя должен | have a car in america you have to |
02:43 | быть автомобиль это очень важно часто | being a car is very important often |
02:46 | расстояние от дома до работы очень | the distance from home to work is very |
02:48 | большое на свалку попадают и биты и лишь | big in the landfill and bits and only |
02:52 | слегка поцарапанные авто сюда пропускают | slightly scratched cars are allowed here |
02:55 | тех кто готов самостоятельно найти | those who are ready to find on their own |
02:57 | открутить распилить нужную деталь на | unscrew and cut the desired part into |
03:00 | выходе за нее нужно заплатить | you have to pay for going out for it |
03:02 | но намного меньше чем в магазине при | but much less than in the store at |
03:05 | желании можно собрать целый автомобиль | If you wish, you can assemble a whole car |
03:07 | наши бывшие соотечественники зачастую | our former compatriots are often |
03:10 | так и поступаю | that's what I do |
03:12 | вот почти новый радиатор для живут этой | here is an almost new radiator for live this |
03:15 | модели это volkswagen вставляется он | models this volkswagen is inserted it |
03:17 | денег степан | money stepan |
03:19 | устраняются смотрите есть фары крышка | are eliminated see there are headlights cover |
03:22 | багажника боковые двери | tailgate side doors |
03:24 | это совсем новая подушка безопасности а | this is a brand new airbag a |
03:27 | вот исправный бензонасос | here is a serviceable gas pump |
03:29 | он там в suburban новый cadillac ставить | he is there in the suburban new cadillac to put |
03:32 | разборка то труда иметь хорошую машину | disassembly then labor to have a good car |
03:35 | здесь только на первый взгляд здесь | here only at first glance here |
03:38 | царит хаос на самом деле все разделено | chaos reigns in fact everything is divided |
03:41 | на секции как в хорошем автосалоне по | on the section as in a good car dealership |
03:44 | соседству с американскими машинами | close to American cars |
03:46 | японцы немцы | Japanese Germans |
03:48 | дальше корейцы мини-купер радиатор есть | further Koreans have mini-cooper radiator |
03:52 | двигателя нет шо америке двигатель они | engine no sho america engine they |
03:54 | хорошо продаются | sell well |
03:55 | этот битый кабриолет увозят со свалки за | this broken convertible is taken away from the landfill for |
03:59 | 450 долларов и машина на ходу правда нет | 450 dollars and the car is on the move really not |
04:03 | заднего бампера подержанные авто в | rear bumper used car in |
04:05 | соединенных штатах стоят копейки | the united states cost a penny |
04:07 | минивен можно купить за тысячу долларов | a minivan can be bought for a thousand dollars |
04:11 | но вот в чем парадокс если придется | but here's the paradox if necessary |
04:13 | ремонтировать старую машину в | repair an old car in |
04:15 | автосервисе возьмут за это больше чем | car service will take more than |
04:17 | она стоит те кто с этим сталкивался | she stands those who faced this |
04:20 | знают договориться с автомехаником в сша | know to negotiate with an auto mechanic in the usa |
04:23 | не получится | will not work |
04:25 | спрошу густой поменять на ступичный | I'll ask you to change the thick to the hub |
04:27 | подшипник он такой мужчинами отвечают ну | bearing he is such men answer well |
04:29 | во-первых мы ваши запчасть не принимаем | firstly, we do not accept your spare part |
04:31 | это раз во вторых она будет стоит 800 | this is the second time it will cost 800 |
04:36 | долларов ему и чувак мне машина с 2000 | dollars to him and dude to me a car since 2000 |
04:41 | долларов какие 800 баксов такое извините | what 800 bucks is that sorry |
04:44 | 1 муж ничем помочь что мы знаем об | 1 husband can do nothing what we know about |
04:48 | америке и почему соединенные штаты так | America and why is the United States so |
04:50 | часто называют страной контрастов | often called the land of contrasts |
04:52 | за американской мечтой дома мтс лужайкой | behind the american dream home mts lawn |
04:55 | новеньким автомобилем и высоким доходом | brand new car and high income |
04:58 | едут со всего света оставляет родин | come from all over the world leaves home |
05:01 | друзей близких но стоит ли она того кому | close friends but is it worth it to whom |
05:04 | америка встречается распростертыми | America meets open |
05:06 | объятиями о ком он оказывает ледяным | hugs about whom he has an icy |
05:09 | равнодушием и жестоким разочарованием | indifference and severe disappointment |
05:11 | вот вопрос на который ищет ответ не одно | there is more than one question to which the answer is |
05:15 | поколение свято убежденных в том что | generation piously convinced that |
05:17 | родина там где лучше все равно у нас | the homeland is where it's better anyway with us |
05:19 | америка это вот что то такое волшебное | America is something magical |
05:22 | что-то в общем такая страна возможности | something in general such a country of opportunity |
05:27 | страна | country |
05:28 | ничто не вашингтон давно провозгласил | nothing washington proclaimed long ago |
05:31 | соединенные штаты мировым гегемоном | the united states of the world hegemon |
05:34 | голливуд десятилетиями создает образ | Hollywood has been creating an image for decades |
05:37 | страны возможностей но что за всем этим | countries of opportunity but what is behind it all |
05:39 | скрыта | hidden |
05:40 | какая она настоящая америка | what is the real america |
05:43 | а вот уж себя попиарить они умеют на все | but they know how to promote themselves for everything |
05:46 | тысячу процентов это безусловно возьмите | take it a thousand percent |
05:49 | любой фильм там боевик или какой-то | any movie there is an action movie or some |
05:52 | мелодраму какой то обязательно значит | some melodrama necessarily means |
05:55 | любое действие включая и не совсем | any action including and not quite |
05:59 | цензурное все проходят под | censored all pass under |
06:01 | отыскать флагом американский флаг | find the flag of the american flag |
06:04 | на этом архивным фото ford на котором в | in this archival photo of a ford in which |
06:07 | середине 30-х годов | mid 30s |
06:08 | илья ильф и евгений петров исколесили | Ilya Ilf and Evgeny Petrov traveled |
06:11 | всю америку корреспонденты правды | all america truth correspondents |
06:14 | побывали в нью-йорке и голливуде | visited new york and hollywood |
06:16 | проехали пустыню аризоны и посетили | drove through the arizona desert and visited |
06:19 | строительство моста золотые ворота в | construction of the golden gate bridge in |
06:21 | сан-франциско | San Francisco |
06:22 | записи в дневнике подробные длинные | detailed long diary entries |
06:25 | письма и телеграммы домой легли в основу | letters and telegrams home formed the basis |
06:29 | одноэтажной америке с | one-story america with |
06:31 | хиты путевой очерк ильфа и петрова имел | hits travel sketch of Ilf and Petrov had |
06:34 | большой успех в сша и других странах в | great success in the usa and other countries in |
06:37 | ссср книга подверглась цензуре и она | the ussr the book was censored and it |
06:41 | сразу попала под запрет она была де | immediately fell under the ban, she was de |
06:46 | читабельные запретили читать | readable banned from reading |
06:48 | почему потому что они показали что | why because they showed that |
06:51 | американский образ жизни он многослойный | the American way of life is layered |
06:54 | от как торт наполеон | from like a cake napoleon |
06:56 | есть снизу весь верх внизу там люди | there is from below all the top below there are people |
06:59 | живут в коробках в по одной в этих в | live in boxes in one by one in these in |
07:01 | ямах в старых таскать отхожих местах а | pits in old latrines to drag a |
07:05 | есть и которые летают из котельной | there are and who fly from the boiler room |
07:08 | летают на самолетах сверхновых и | fly on supernova planes and |
07:10 | кататься на лимузина | ride a limousine |
07:12 | сегодня средняя ежемесячная заработная | average monthly salary today |
07:15 | плата в сша почти 4 тысячи долларов | fee in the usa is almost 4 thousand dollars |
07:17 | больше 240 тысяч рублей впечатляющая | more than 240 thousand rubles impressive |
07:21 | цифра к тому же к примеру в калифорнии и | a figure, in addition, for example, in california and |
07:24 | флориде | florida |
07:25 | можно не тратить деньги на отопление и | you do not need to spend money on heating and |
07:27 | теплую одежду заманчивая перспектива | warm clothes are a tempting prospect |
07:30 | каждый год американскую границу | every year the American border |
07:33 | пересекают около миллиона новых | cross about a million new |
07:35 | иммигрантов но что происходит дальше | immigrants but what happens next |
07:38 | вместо белоснежных особняков | instead of white mansions |
07:40 | санта-барбары | santa barbaras |
07:41 | приедешь ждет вот такое жилья | you come waiting for this kind of housing |
07:44 | согласитесь по нашим меркам маловато | agree not enough by our standards |
07:47 | даже для дачного домика и мы едем к дому | even for a country house and we go to the house |
07:50 | по нашей марика такой дорожке очень | on our marika such a path is very |
07:54 | симпатично а вот он дом только | nice but he is only home |
07:57 | представьте в лос-анджелесе за такое | imagine in los angeles for this |
07:59 | сооружение с тонкими похожими на | structure with thin similar to |
08:01 | картонные стенами платят приличную | cardboard walls pay decent |
08:04 | арендную плату от полутора тысяч | rent from one and a half thousand |
08:06 | долларов в месяц | dollars a month |
08:08 | эти счастливчики сумели получить кредит | these lucky ones managed to get a loan |
08:11 | в сша и купили собственный дом теперь у | in the usa and bought their own house now from |
08:14 | них есть недвижимость в майами в штате | they have real estate in miami in the state |
08:17 | флорида вот наш дом выглядит так | florida our house looks like this |
08:20 | сейчас просто солнце с | now just the sun with |
08:22 | в доме конечно же нужен ремонт так что | the house needs repairs, of course, so |
08:25 | со временем мы будем делать ремонт тут | over time we will make repairs here |
08:28 | как вам такой вариант | how do you like this option |
08:30 | пользователи социальных сетей радости | joy social network users |
08:33 | новоселов неразделим в комментариях | new settlers are inseparable in the comments |
08:35 | пишут что там больше похож на ларек | write that it looks more like a stall there |
08:38 | шаурмой | shawarma |
08:38 | кстати ремонт в сша удовольствие не из | By the way, repairs in the USA are not fun |
08:41 | дешевых придется заплатить не только за | cheap will have to pay not only for |
08:44 | материалы шпаклевку плитку обои | material putty tile wallpaper |
08:47 | но и купить лицензию на ремонт да да | but also buy a license for repairs yes yes |
08:50 | заплатить государству за то что вы | pay the state for what you are |
08:53 | своими руками поменяете к примеру цвет | change the color with your own hands |
08:56 | стен ну вот это living room быть и | walls well this is a living room to be and |
08:58 | выглядит он вот так вот здесь нужно | it looks like this here you need it |
09:02 | делать полностью везде ремонт тут все | to do completely repairs everywhere, everything is here |
09:05 | старое однако есть жилье и старее | old but there is housing and older |
09:09 | [музыка] | [music] |
09:34 | квест на выживание как устроен | survival quest how it works |
09:37 | американский быт это нас беленький домик | American way of life is us a little white house |
09:40 | мы его называем амбар и такой вот true | we call it a barn and this is true |
09:43 | american house как там отапливают дома | american house how are houses heated there |
09:46 | зимой нет не всегда холодно и ты всегда | in winter, no, it's not always cold and you are always |
09:48 | можешь не умеют они | maybe they don't know how |
09:51 | зимой справляться | cope in winter |
09:52 | [музыка] | [music] |
09:57 | городок кило орга все в той же жарко и | the town of kilo orga all in the same hot and |
10:01 | флориде | florida |
10:01 | иммигрантов здесь много поэтому каждый | there are many immigrants here, so everyone |
10:04 | квадратный метр и на вес золота это наш | square meter and worth its weight in gold this is our |
10:07 | беленький домик фильм точнее мы его | little white house movie more precisely, we are his |
10:09 | называем амбар все его так называю на | we call the barn I call it all on |
10:12 | штаны за этого сарайчик вообще он ничего | pants for this shed at all he is nothing |
10:15 | в общем симпатичные достаточно и такой | generally pretty enough and so |
10:19 | вот true american house | here's a true american house |
10:21 | дом был построен в 1942 году этот район | the house was built in 1942 the area |
10:25 | та самая одноэтажная америка | the same one-story America |
10:28 | о которой писали ильф и петров и за | which Ilf and Petrov wrote about and for |
10:31 | многие десятилетия здесь ничего не | for many decades there has been nothing here |
10:33 | изменилось включая рамы в этих окнах она | changed including the frames in these windows she |
10:37 | такую кухню смогла бы протиснуться не | such a kitchen could not squeeze through |
10:39 | каждая российская хозяйка нас очень | every Russian mistress is very |
10:42 | узкое место как видите не очень много | bottleneck, as you can see, not very much |
10:45 | духовка плита духовка это терпеть не | oven stove oven hate it |
10:48 | могу а нам не поджарил подгорело горела | I can not fried it burned burned |
10:53 | мощь сталин новогодний рождественский | power stalin new year christmas |
10:55 | кекс | cake |
10:56 | самое невероятное в этом крохотном | the most incredible thing about this tiny |
10:58 | домики с узкими коридорами это цена | houses with narrow corridors is the price |
11:01 | она по-настоящему шокирует 1000 долларов | she is really shocking $ 1000 |
11:05 | в месяц получается вообще все месяц | in a month it turns out all the month |
11:07 | получать 160 тысяч рублей за 46 дней | receive 160 thousand rubles in 46 days |
11:13 | если вы приехали в америку не туристам | if you are not a tourist in America |
11:17 | на пару недель а жить открытия вас ждут | for a couple of weeks and live discoveries await you |
11:20 | на каждом шагу и не все они приятные | at every step and not all of them are pleasant |
11:23 | например в америке уже первые счета за | for example, in America, already the first bills for |
11:25 | интернет за телевидения заставляют снять | Internet for television forced to remove |
11:28 | розовые очки это у нас можно смотреть | pink glasses you can watch it here |
11:30 | телек бесплатно в штат только за деньги | telly for free to the state only for money |
11:33 | и в итоге от как бы высоких зарплат | and as a result, from the seemingly high salaries |
11:36 | после налоговых и социальных выплат | after tax and social payments |
11:38 | после всех коммунальных платежей и | after all utility bills and |
11:40 | прочее прочее прочее остается не так уж | other other other remains not so |
11:43 | много так что звериная скрупулезность | a lot so bestial scrupulousness |
11:46 | которой американцы считают деньги это не | which Americans consider money is not |
11:48 | мелочная а просто способ выжить | petty but just a way to survive |
11:51 | в основу все кабельное телевидение он | all cable TV is based on |
11:53 | очень дорогое там счета по 200 по 300 по | very expensive there are bills of 200 to 300 |
11:56 | 400 долларов в месяц и поначалу | $ 400 per month and at first |
11:58 | удивлялся ничего себе такие деньги | wondered wow that kind of money |
11:59 | платит люди за эти услуги | people pay for these services |
12:01 | 13 стоит от 49 долларов там до 70 | 13 costs from 49 dollars there to 70 |
12:05 | долларов но 2 средний тариф за | dollars but 2 average tariff for |
12:07 | баснословные деньги за аренду и услуги | fabulous money for rent and services |
12:10 | привычных для россиян удобств не будет | there will be no conveniences familiar to Russians |
12:13 | американский быт отличается от нашего | American life is different from ours |
12:16 | тем кто переехал соединенные штаты | those who moved the United States |
12:18 | приходится привыкать к западным | have to get used to western |
12:21 | стандартам ванная в америке у меня в | standard bathroom in america in my |
12:23 | принципе всегда удивляли | principle always surprised |
12:25 | душ вмонтирован в стену но мне например | the shower is built into the wall but for example |
12:28 | от неудобный я бы мир до хотела тупо | from uncomfortable I would like the world to stupidly |
12:30 | помыть голову и взять вот так вот души | wash your hair and take souls like this |
12:31 | полить себя на углу нет ведет нельзя а | watering yourself on the corner no leads you can not |
12:34 | вот то что радует туристов и иммигрантов | that's what makes tourists and immigrants happy |
12:37 | приятная бытовая мелочь сушилка которая | pleasant household trifle dryer which |
12:41 | есть в каждом американском доме | is in every American home |
12:43 | устанавливается рядом со стиральной | installed next to the washing |
12:45 | машиной | by car |
12:46 | достав отсюда вещи американцы их обычно | taking things out of here the Americans usually |
12:49 | не гладят | do not iron |
12:50 | вовсе оно есть у всех американцев это | all Americans have it at all |
12:52 | польша плюс никаких тебе раскладных | poland plus no folding ones for you |
12:55 | вешалок сушилок который занимают полдома | dryers hangers that take up half the house |
12:58 | россиянка полина алиева в америке долго | russian woman polina alieva in america for a long time |
13:01 | не могла привыкнуть к постоянному шуму в | could not get used to the constant noise in |
13:03 | доме в холодное время года в квартирах | house in the cold season in apartments |
13:06 | работают паровые батарею такая система | steam batteries work such a system |
13:09 | отопления не только как следует не | heating not only properly |
13:11 | прогревает помещение но и доставляет | heats the room but also delivers |
13:14 | массу неудобств эти правые батарея когда | a lot of inconvenience this right battery when |
13:17 | не знала что это такое первый раз когда | didn't know what it was the first time |
13:20 | ее включили | it was turned on |
13:21 | я думал что сейчас что-то взорвется | I thought that something was going to explode now |
13:22 | сейчас что-то потечет а оказывается она | now something will flow, but it turns out she |
13:25 | просто так шумел оказалось что паровые | it was just so noisy that the steam |
13:27 | батареи больше шуме | battery more noise |
13:29 | angry зимой в жилых помещениях постоянно | angry in winter in living quarters all the time |
13:32 | холодно долгие оконные рамы от морозов | cold long window frames from frost |
13:35 | не защищает приходилось их реально | does not protect them really |
13:38 | скотчем заклеивать чтобы просто не 2 | tape to glue so as not to 2 |
13:40 | зимой но у них нет такого понятия что | in winter but they have no such idea that |
13:44 | дома должно быть тепло вот как мы любим | it should be warm at home this is how we love |
13:46 | чтобы вот тепло нет не всегда холодно и | so that there is no warmth, it is not always cold and |
13:48 | ты всегда мерзнешь не умеют они | you are always cold they do not know how |
13:51 | зимой справляться полина алиева жила в | coping in winter Polina Alieva lived in |
13:54 | сша и в провинциальном городке | USA and in a provincial town |
13:56 | и в крупном мегаполисе девушка отправила | and in a large metropolis, the girl sent |
13:59 | из океан чтобы стать архитектором | from the ocean to become an architect |
14:01 | поступила в политехнический университет | entered the Polytechnic University |
14:03 | в городе трой штате нью-йорк | in the city of troy state of new york |
14:06 | вуз считается довольно престижным полина | the university is considered quite prestigious polina |
14:10 | поселилась вот в этом студенческом | settled here in this student |
14:12 | общежитии но не смогла здесь долго | hostel but could not be here for a long time |
14:14 | находиться о том что творят американские | to be about what American are doing |
14:17 | первокурсники в закрытом городке | freshmen in a closed town |
14:19 | родителям лучше не знать они наконец-то | parents better not know they finally |
14:23 | вышли из-под опеки своих родителей | got out of the care of their parents |
14:25 | уезжает на кампус и на другой конец | leaves for campus and the other end |
14:28 | страны и начинают просить просто | countries and start asking just |
14:30 | хардкоре жестко | hardcore tough |
14:31 | то есть это каждый день там тусовки есть | that is, there are parties every day |
14:35 | братство сестринство | brotherhood sisterhood |
14:36 | те они просто упивается вот это основное | those they just revel in this is the main thing |
14:40 | развлечение | entertainment |
14:42 | давать алкоголь лицам не достигшим 21 | give alcohol to people under 21 |
14:44 | года в америке запрещено но студенты в | years in america is prohibited but students in |
14:47 | нашли вы их вот как у них все устрой | you found them this is how they arrange everything |
14:50 | есть так называемые братство и | there is a so-called brotherhood and |
14:53 | сестринство неформальные студенческие | nursing informal student |
14:56 | объединения которые обязан уступить | associations which are obliged to cede |
14:58 | каждый абитуриент | every entrant |
15:00 | новобранцам алкоголь покупают | they buy alcohol for recruits |
15:03 | старшекурсники | undergraduates |
15:04 | то мы называли старший брат а старшая | then we called older brother and older |
15:06 | сестра есть младшая сестра то там | sister has a younger sister there |
15:09 | старшие straight и четвертый курс | senior straight and fourth year |
15:10 | младший строи это первый корж и они как | junior build this is the first cake and they are like |
15:12 | бы помогали друг другу ты старше и там | would you help each other you are older and there |
15:15 | сестры-братья они как раз закупались мы | brothers-sisters they were just shopping for us |
15:17 | и там подружки они такие | and there they are girlfriends |
15:19 | я там из альфа я из бета вскоре | i'm there from alpha i'm from beta soon |
15:22 | выяснилось что в американском | it turned out that in the American |
15:24 | студенческом общежитии действуют свои | student dormitories have their own |
15:26 | законы и порядки чем больше алкоголя и | laws and regulations the more alcohol and |
15:30 | масштабнее вечеринки тем большим почетом | the bigger the party, the more honor |
15:33 | пользуются сестринство или братство тем | enjoy the sisterhood or brotherhood of those |
15:36 | больше желающих в него вступить | more willing to join |
15:38 | студентка некуда было деваться только | the student had nowhere to go only |
15:40 | ходить вот на эти матрасы и сестринство | go to these mattresses and nursing |
15:42 | чем лучше музыка чем лучше алкоголь | the better the music the better the alcohol |
15:44 | бесплатное чем вот тем чем больше людей | free the more the more people |
15:47 | но чем больше движухи тем как двое круче | but the more you move, the cooler the two |
15:49 | в общежитии у молодых американцев есть | in the dormitory, young Americans have |
15:52 | еще одно развлечение почти все свободное | another entertainment almost all free |
15:55 | время они проводят студенческой столовой | the time they spend in the student canteen |
15:58 | дело в том что заказывать еду там можно | the fact is that you can order food there |
16:01 | в неограниченном количестве | unlimited |
16:03 | это вы выдаются специальные карты по | it is you who are issued special cards by |
16:06 | кого-то вынут идет паса когда можно | someone is taken out, passes when possible |
16:08 | безлимит находить столов американцы там | no limit find americans tables there |
16:10 | пожали стоит ли удивляться что это нация | is it any wonder that this is a nation? |
16:14 | стремительно набирает вес и дело не в | is rapidly gaining weight and it's not about |
16:16 | бойлерах | boilers |
16:17 | или не только в них гастрономические | or not only in them gastronomic |
16:20 | предпочтения жителей соединенных штатов | preferences of residents of the united states |
16:22 | америки поражают они сочетают | America amaze they combine |
16:25 | несочетаемое и поглощают порции огромных | incongruous and absorb portions of huge |
16:29 | размерах смотрите так готовят | size see so they cook |
16:31 | традиционный завтрак в южных штатах | traditional breakfast in the southern states |
16:33 | страны | countries |
16:34 | выпекают сладкие вафли во фритюре | bake deep-fried sweet waffles |
16:37 | обжаривают кусочки курицы и едят все это | fry the chicken pieces and eat it all |
16:40 | с медом или кленовым сиропом по | with honey or maple syrup |
16:43 | популярности такой завтрак может | the popularity of such a breakfast may |
16:45 | сравниться только со сладкими пончиками | compare only with sweet donuts |
16:48 | алексей сша и это большая страна такая | alexey usa and this is such a big country |
16:52 | же как и россия | the same as russia |
16:53 | поэтому на востоке и на западе вкусы в | therefore in the east and west tastes in |
16:55 | еде отличаются есть регионы где есть | food is different there are regions where there is |
16:58 | свои особые предпочтения а пончики это | your special preferences and donuts are |
17:01 | блюдо которое нравится всем это не | a dish that everyone likes is not |
17:04 | что-то изысканная магазины с пончиками | something gourmet donut shops |
17:09 | есть на каждом углу там можно купить | there is on every corner there you can buy |
17:12 | пончик кофе и все это съесть | donut coffee and eat it all |
17:16 | например пока ты едешь на работу на | for example, while you are driving to work for |
17:18 | автобусе как думаете это что закуска | bus what do you think is that snack |
17:23 | десерт или основное блюдо | dessert or main course |
17:26 | жирные и жареные кусочки бекона обильно | fatty and fried bacon pieces generously |
17:29 | политый шоколадом и это не эксперимент | poured with chocolate and this is not an experiment |
17:31 | шеф-повара а популярное в штатах | chef a popular in the states |
17:34 | лакомство и это еще не все угадайте что | delicacy and that's not all guess what |
17:37 | на тарелке думаете сосиски в кляре | on a plate you think sausages in batter |
17:41 | или рыбные палочки нет это соленые | or fish sticks are not salty |
17:44 | огурцы приготовленные во фритюре еще | deep-fried cucumbers more |
17:47 | один любимый снег американцев | America's one favorite snow |
17:50 | на экране блюдо рецепт которого наши | on the screen the dish is the recipe of which our |
17:52 | хозяйки вряд ли станут записывать | hostesses are unlikely to write |
17:54 | казалось бы картофель ничем не испортишь | it would seem that nothing will spoil the potatoes |
17:58 | но посмотрите что придумали американцы | but look what the americans have come up with |
18:00 | это по той the skills для его | this is for the skills for him |
18:04 | приготовления используют бекон сыр | cooking uses bacon cheese |
18:06 | зеленый лук и картофельную кожуру | green onions and potato skins |
18:09 | до на западе принято есть картофель и | until in the west it is customary to eat potatoes and |
18:12 | неочищенным считается что именно в | uncleaned is what exactly in |
18:14 | кожуре содержатся самые полезные | the peel contains the most useful |
18:16 | микроэлементы но американцы пошли еще | micronutrients but americans went for more |
18:19 | дальше то что мы выбрасываем в мусорную | then what we throw in the trash |
18:22 | корзину | shopping cart |
18:23 | они превратили в популярное блюдо | they turned into a popular dish |
18:25 | хрустящую кожуру с начинкой это просто | crispy peel with filling it's easy |
18:29 | картофель это как будто половина картера | potatoes are like half a crankcase |
18:31 | я не хочу это пробовать | i don't want to try it |
18:34 | но попробовал его удивлению этой | but tried his surprise with this |
18:37 | американки нет предела девушка впервые в | american girls no limit girl first time in |
18:40 | жизни увидел а очищенные от кожуры | life saw a peeled |
18:42 | картофель и пробует его на вкус а в | potatoes and taste it a b |
18:45 | происходящее на этой кухне нам и вовсе | what is happening in this kitchen to us at all |
18:47 | трудно поверить | hard to believe |
18:48 | [музыка] | [music] |
18:52 | и | and |
18:55 | [музыка] | [music] |
19:04 | [музыка] | [music] |
19:07 | [аплодисменты] | [applause] |
19:09 | [музыка] | [music] |
19:17 | серийные маньяки и гигантские кредиты | serial maniacs and giant credits |
19:21 | чего еще боятся американцы да и сам я | What else are Americans afraid of and myself? |
19:25 | скажу что не проезд русских на коже | I will say that there is no passage for Russians on the skin |
19:28 | боятся вожатых и как победить пробки на | are afraid of counselors and how to defeat traffic jams on |
19:32 | манхеттене | manhattan |
19:33 | я просто купила велосипед и каталась на | I just bought a bike and rode |
19:36 | нем потому что он быстрее машину он | him because he is faster than the car he |
19:38 | быстрее метро | faster than the subway |
19:40 | [музыка] | [music] |
19:45 | в стеклянных банках не | in glass jars |
19:47 | огурцы или помидоры американец | cucumbers or tomatoes american |
19:50 | закатывает картофель режет его на дольки | rolls potatoes cuts it into wedges |
19:53 | добавляет соль girasole не забудьте | adds girasole salt don't forget |
19:56 | протереть банку а после этого закрывать | wipe the jar and then close |
19:58 | ее горячий крышкой им столько усилий | her hot lid im so much effort |
20:01 | может американцам никто не сказал что | maybe no one told the Americans that |
20:03 | картофель отлично хранится в погребе или | potatoes keep well in the cellar or |
20:06 | на худой конец в холодильнике любите | at worst love in the fridge |
20:13 | сельдерей | celery |
20:14 | американцы его обожает каждый знает как | Americans love him everyone knows how |
20:17 | приготовить стек под названием муравьи | cook a stack called ants |
20:19 | на бревне | on a log |
20:20 | стебли сельдерея поливают арахисовым | celery stalks watered with peanut |
20:23 | маслом добавляют изюм это самый | raisins are added with butter |
20:26 | распространенный перекус особенного | common snack special |
20:28 | подростков перед вами традиционный соус | teenagers in front of you traditional sauce |
20:31 | красный глаз все что осталось на | red eye is all that's left on |
20:34 | сковороде после жаркими снова стейка | skillet after frying steak again |
20:36 | просто смешивают с колой и кофе этим | just mix it with cola and coffee |
20:40 | гремучим соусом обильно поливают | oxyhydrogen sauce is poured abundantly |
20:42 | основное блюдо получилось это и дать эти | main course turn it out and give these |
20:44 | бургеры прицепиться эти вкусные какие | burgers cling to these delicious what |
20:47 | там из сетевых известных пиццериях | there from the network famous pizzerias |
20:49 | нравилось но потом сюда приелась очень | I liked it, but then I became very boring here |
20:52 | быстро и я понял что русской дамы | quickly and I realized that the Russian lady |
20:55 | разнообразие эмигрантам из других стран | variety to emigrants from other countries |
20:58 | ничего не остается кроме как питаться в | there is nothing left but to eat in |
21:01 | национальных кафе и ресторанах | national cafes and restaurants |
21:03 | итальянских русских турецких выходцы из | Italian Russians Turkish immigrants from |
21:06 | советского союза а потом и россии | Soviet Union and then Russia |
21:09 | десятилетиями стекаются в район brighton | flocking to brighton for decades |
21:11 | beach | beach |
21:12 | здесь не нужно привыкать к американской | there is no need to get used to the American |
21:14 | еды можно покупать продукты в магазинах | food, you can buy groceries in stores |
21:17 | наших бывших соотечественников и | our former compatriots and |
21:19 | говорить большинство новоиспеченных | say most of the newly minted |
21:21 | американцев продолжает по-русски | Americans continues in Russian |
21:24 | некоторые за пределы брайтон-бич даже не | some outside brighton beach don't even |
21:27 | выбираются там есть такое ощущение что | get out there there is a feeling that |
21:29 | ты находишься в поселке каком-то таком | you are in some kind of village |
21:32 | подмосковном то есть там обязательно | near Moscow, that is, there is a must |
21:34 | ходят такие мужики вот этих вот | there are such men here, these here |
21:36 | алкоголичка ход в шортиках вот этих вот | alcoholic move in shorts here these here |
21:38 | полосатых там я даже не на откуда они | striped there I'm not even where they come from |
21:40 | это берут но там так вот наш брайтон-бич | they take it but there is our Brighton Beach |
21:44 | голубая мечта и персональный рай для | blue dream and personal paradise for |
21:47 | нескольких поколений советских граждан | several generations of Soviet citizens |
21:49 | мечтавших уехать в америку от постылой | who dreamed of leaving for America from the hateful |
21:52 | советской действительности что я вам | Soviet reality that I am to you |
21:55 | могу сказать | can tell |
21:56 | бывал я на брайтон-бич в его лучшие | I've been to Brighton Beach in its best |
21:59 | времена лет двадцать назад когда еще | times twenty years ago when else |
22:00 | были живы яркие представители еще той | there were bright representatives of that |
22:03 | советской иммиграции вот там на | Soviet immigration right there on |
22:06 | брайтон-бич | Brighton Beach |
22:07 | я первый раз и понял что америка она | This is the first time I realized that America is |
22:09 | тоже разная есть америка где бьется | America is also different where it beats |
22:12 | пульс мировой политики и финансы где | the pulse of world politics and finance where |
22:14 | зажигаются звезды где варятся большие | the stars are lit where the big ones are boiled |
22:17 | дела самой мощной из империи и есть | affairs of the most powerful of the empire is |
22:20 | совсем другая америка иммигрантская | a completely different america immigrant |
22:23 | местечковая со своим простым и не мудря | small-town with its simple and not wise |
22:25 | чем счастьем не знаю как сейчас а тогда | I don’t know how happiness is now, but then |
22:29 | брайтон-бич мне напомнил одессу конца | Brighton Beach reminded me of the end of Odessa |
22:31 | 70-х годов | 70s |
22:32 | только колбасы в магазинах было побольше | only sausages in stores were more |
22:35 | да дефицитного зеленого горошка и еще | yes scarce green peas and more |
22:38 | меня тогда поразило фраза эмигрантский | I was then struck by the phrase émigré |
22:40 | бабушек с набережной брайтон-бич | Brighton Beach Promenade Grannies |
22:43 | кивая в сторону манхэттэна они говорили | nodding towards Manhattan they spoke |
22:45 | мне сынок | my son |
22:47 | мы в ту америку не ходит | we don't go to that america |
22:50 | brighton beach это не только пляж на | brighton beach is not only a beach on |
22:52 | берегу атлантики район очень шумный надо | the coast of the atlantic area is very noisy |
22:55 | автодорогой проходит наземное метро на | an overground metro passes by road on |
22:58 | улице немало бездомных и мигранты | there are many homeless people and migrants in the street |
23:00 | которые продолжают стремится в америку | who continue to strive for America |
23:03 | здесь рискуют превратиться в | here they risk becoming |
23:05 | гастарбайтер люди которые приезжают | guest worker people who come |
23:07 | одиночке они стараются все сэкономит | alone they try to save everything |
23:09 | получаются что многие живут | it turns out that many live |
23:11 | это попадают на хату там кровати лежит | it falls on the hut there the bed lies |
23:14 | на кровати на кровати ты в одной комнате | on the bed on the bed you are in the same room |
23:17 | можешь спать в четырьмя-пятью а то и | you can sleep at four or five or even |
23:19 | больше мужиками чтобы заработать эту | more men to earn this |
23:21 | кофейку шип сэкономить те кто сумели | those who managed to save coffee thorn |
23:23 | прижиться в других штатах америки время | take root in other states of america time |
23:26 | от времени тоже не прочь их вспомнить о | from time to time, too, do not mind remembering them |
23:28 | родине | homeland |
23:29 | этот славянский базар проходит в орегоне | this slavic bazaar takes place in oregon |
23:32 | здесь продают гжель и матрешки блины и | here they sell gzhel and matryoshka pancakes and |
23:35 | пельмени правда стоит все это в десять | dumplings are really worth it all at ten |
23:38 | раз дороже чем в россии 68 | times more expensive than in Russia 68 |
23:47 | помните как в ссср ездили на картошку на | remember how we went to the ussr for potatoes on |
23:50 | поля за урожаем в орегоне одном из самых | fields for crops in oregon one of the most |
23:53 | живописных штатов и сегодня овощи и | picturesque states and today vegetables and |
23:56 | ягоды можно собрать своими руками | berries can be collected by hand |
23:58 | наши люди от такой возможности не | our people from such an opportunity do not |
24:00 | отказываются за пять килограммов | refuse for five kilograms |
24:07 | клубники заплатили 20 долларов по | strawberries paid $ 20 |
24:09 | американским меркам это экономия | American standards are savings |
24:11 | иммигранты из россии и стран | immigrants from Russia and countries |
24:13 | постсоветского пространства на высокие | post-Soviet space to high |
24:16 | зарплаты в сша обычно не рассчитывают и | salaries in the us are usually not calculated and |
24:19 | быстро учатся планировать семейный | quickly learn to plan a family |
24:21 | бюджет то то там и ногти делает это эти | budget then that there and nails do it these |
24:25 | стороны открывает это таксистом | side opens it by the taxi driver |
24:27 | подрабатывает москвич алексей борисов | Muscovite Alexey Borisov moonlights |
24:30 | при переезде в сша получил особую | when moving to the usa received a special |
24:32 | иммиграционную визу для людей обладающих | immigrant visa for people with |
24:36 | выдающимися способностями в области | outstanding ability in the field |
24:38 | науки искусство бизнеса или спорта на | science art business or sports on |
24:42 | переезд потребовалось 12 тысяч долларов | the move took 12 thousand dollars |
24:45 | казалось бы есть все шансы хорошо | it would seem there are all chances well |
24:47 | устроится однако за границей российские | however, Russian |
24:50 | инженер-исследователь | research engineer |
24:52 | получил работу кабельщика устанавливала | got a cableman job installing |
24:55 | в домах американцев кабельное | in the homes of americans cable |
24:57 | телевидение интернет и телефонная связь | television internet and telephone communication |
25:00 | работа тяжёлая 2 часа в сутки по шесть | hard work 2 hours a day for six |
25:02 | дней в неделю мы износ практически маму | days a week we practically wear mom |
25:05 | терял деньги заработать денег курса по | lost money make money course on |
25:07 | приезду в америку где не тратились очень | coming to America where they didn't spend much |
25:09 | неимоверно быстро | incredibly fast |
25:11 | некоторые заказы срывались алексей был | some orders were thwarted alexey was |
25:14 | поражён в стране которая всему миру | amazed in a country that to the whole world |
25:16 | рассказывает о равноправии и | talks about equality and |
25:18 | толерантности захлопнули дверь перед | tolerance slammed the door before |
25:21 | человеком с иностранным акцентом пол не | a person with a foreign accent does not |
25:24 | пускать в дом потом сми русский акцент | then let the media into the house with a Russian accent |
25:26 | американцы не скажу что не ps русских | Americans will not say that not ps russians |
25:30 | темнокожие бояться уже от русских | dark-skinned people are afraid already from the Russians |
25:33 | америка преподнесла и еще один сюрприз | America has presented another surprise |
25:36 | сентябрь 2019 на флориду надвигается | September 2019 is approaching Florida |
25:40 | ураган | Hurricane |
25:41 | дарят смотрите высота волн до пяти | give see the height of the waves up to five |
25:44 | метров и это только начало дальше стихия | meters and this is just the beginning further element |
25:47 | захватит все побережье сезон ураганов | Hurricane season will take over the coast |
25:49 | сша бывает каждый год разрушительная | USA is destructive every year |
25:53 | катрина до сих пор у всех на слуху в | Katrina is still on everyone's lips in |
25:56 | зоне наибольшего риска флорида северная | most at risk florida north |
25:58 | каролина луизиана жители этих штатов на | carolina louisiana residents of these states on |
26:01 | время покидают свои дома и уезжают в | time they leave their homes and go to |
26:04 | глубь страны алексею борисову и его | deep into the country to Alexey Borisov and his |
26:07 | семье | family |
26:08 | хоть было некуда хотели переждать ураган | though there was nowhere they wanted to wait out the hurricane |
26:10 | во флориде | in florida |
26:11 | но все же пришлось покинуть свой новый | but still had to leave my new |
26:13 | дом была объявлена всеобщая эвакуация мы | the house was declared a general evacuation we |
26:17 | просто ночью сели и поехали собой взяли | they just sat down at night and went with them. |
26:20 | там собой котов нас было три кота сабо | there were three cats there were three sabo cats |
26:22 | еще забыли всех ребенка жену вещи самые | have forgotten all the child's wife the most things |
26:25 | важные самого цены но в принципе у нас | important prices but in principle we have |
26:27 | их не так много было потом сего машинами | there were not so many of them there were then machines |
26:29 | слез и мы уехали | tears and we left |
26:30 | мало кто знает что в америке переезжать | few people know what to move in America |
26:34 | из одного штата в другой обычное дело | from one state to another commonplace |
26:36 | место жительства меняют не только | place of residence is not only changed |
26:38 | иммигранты но и коренные американцы | immigrants but also Native Americans |
26:41 | данные статистики поражает я видимо я | statistic data amazes i apparently i |
26:44 | американец переезжает каждые пять лет и | American moves every five years and |
26:47 | в течение жизни количество переездов | during the life of the number of crossings |
26:49 | может достигать 11 | can reach 11 |
26:51 | что касается работы то она главная | as for work, she is the main one |
26:54 | причина переезда среднестатистический | reason for moving average |
26:56 | американец | American |
26:57 | работает на одном месте 4 года как | has been working in one place for 4 years as |
27:01 | правило впервые переезжают сразу после | usually move for the first time right after |
27:04 | школы в америке совершеннолетия это | schools in america coming of age is |
27:07 | рубеж после которого молодой человек | the line after which the young man |
27:09 | должен поселиться в собственном жилье | must live in his own home |
27:11 | студенческом общежитии или арендованной | student residence or rented |
27:14 | квартире проживать с родителями в | apartment to live with parents in |
27:17 | соединенных штатах не принято | United States not accepted |
27:19 | дети как бы обязана съехать если дети не | children are obliged to move out if the children are not |
27:23 | съезжают это вызывает только | move out it only causes |
27:25 | расстройства возникают споры | disorders arise controversy |
27:27 | относительно аренды сколько ребенок | how much is the child about rent |
27:30 | будет платить за аренду | will pay rent |
27:31 | таких людей считают неудачниками на них | such people are considered losers on them |
27:34 | ложится социальное клеймо особенно на | the social stigma lays especially on |
27:36 | мужчин это самый узнаваемый и престижный | men are the most recognizable and prestigious |
27:42 | район нью-йорка manhattan | new york district manhattan |
27:44 | здесь не только жилье даже парковка по | there is not only housing, even parking by |
27:46 | карману далеко не каждому американцу | not every American can afford |
27:49 | белые воротнички и ездят в офис и | white collars and go to the office and |
27:51 | небоскребов на общественном транспорте | skyscrapers by public transport |
27:54 | именно | exactly |
27:55 | такси цене паркингов махато меня до сих | taxi parking prices mahato me still |
27:58 | пор привыкнуть не могу это реальный | I can't get used to it, it's real |
28:00 | чересчур | too |
28:01 | в среднем один час стоит 25 долларов это | on average one hour costs $ 25 this |
28:04 | просто за вот такую открытую площадку | just for such an open area |
28:07 | недалеко от там сквер казалось бы выход | not far from there the square would seem to be the exit |
28:11 | есть в мегаполисе всегда можно | you can always eat in the metropolis |
28:13 | воспользоваться метро что может быть | take the subway what can be |
28:15 | надежнее и быстрее подземки как бы не | more reliable and faster than the subway, as it were |
28:18 | так | So |
28:18 | в америке в метро все иначе только | in America in the subway everything is different only |
28:21 | представьте эти парни ждали свой поезд | imagine these guys were waiting for their train |
28:24 | почти целый час | almost an hour |
28:26 | меняет что надо долго ждать вагоны не | changes that you have to wait a long time for wagons not |
28:28 | кадры мы ждали 11 минут сорок здесь | footage we waited 11 minutes forty here |
28:34 | снова | again |
28:36 | остался кондиционер не работает или это | the air conditioner is not working or is it |
28:39 | просто | simply |
28:40 | но даже это не самое страшное | but even this is not the worst thing |
28:42 | нью-йоркское метро терпит нашествия крыс | New York subway suffers rat invasions |
28:50 | смотрите этот мужчина хотел снять на | look this man wanted to take off on |
28:52 | видео 1 грызуна но через пять секунд на | video of 1 rodent but after five seconds on |
28:56 | платформе уже три жирные крысы чем не | platform already three fat rats than not |
28:59 | локация для съемок фильма ужасов надо | location for filming a horror movie |
29:02 | снять это поделать там мышц то но просто | take it off do it muscle then but just |
29:04 | на глазах разваливается там повсюду | falling apart before our eyes everywhere |
29:06 | ржавчина крысы бегают умань визитом | rust rats running around uman visit |
29:09 | бегает этого нам не работает постоянно | runs this does not work for us all the time |
29:12 | то есть это нормально что ты опоздал на | that is, it is normal that you are late for |
29:15 | час там просто метро не работал о | an hour there just the subway didn't work about |
29:17 | безопасности и говорить не приходится | safety and needless to say |
29:19 | сами всё видите с потолка нью-йоркской | you see everything from the ceiling of New York |
29:22 | подземки хлещет поток воды | subway gushing water |
29:26 | рельсы полностью затопило | the rails are completely flooded |
29:28 | там где должны ходить поезда течет | where the trains should go |
29:31 | мутная река | muddy river |
29:32 | трудно поверить что так выглядит метро | it's hard to believe what the subway looks like |
29:35 | богатейший страны мира обшарпанные стены | richest country in the world shabby walls |
29:38 | обвалившаяся плитка лужи воды на полу | a crumbling tile of a puddle of water on the floor |
29:41 | внутри вагонов не лучше стены и потолок | inside the wagons no better than walls and ceilings |
29:44 | исписаны маркерами россиянка полина | written in markers russian woman polina |
29:47 | алиева переехала в нью-йорк чтобы | Aliyeva moved to New York to |
29:49 | продолжить образование но оказалось что | continue education but it turned out that |
29:52 | рассчитывать на метро в этом мегаполисе | count on the metro in this metropolis |
29:54 | не приходится ненадежно дорого | does not have to be precariously expensive |
29:57 | небезопасно девушка нашла решение | unsafe girl found a solution |
30:00 | я просто купила велосипед и каталась на | I just bought a bike and rode |
30:03 | нем потому что он быстрее машину он | him because he is faster than the car he |
30:05 | быстрее | faster |
30:06 | метро даже если это 10 и 20 километров я | metro even if it is 10 and 20 kilometers I |
30:10 | поеду на и успеть а потому что это будет | I will go there and be in time but because it will be |
30:11 | быстрее все остальное не работает полина | faster everything else does not work Pauline |
30:14 | ездила на велосипеде до тех пор пока | rode a bike until |
30:17 | однажды его не украли дух колесник исчез | once it was not stolen the spirit of the wheel was gone |
30:20 | прямо посреди бела дня и этом бруклине в | right in broad daylight and this brooklyn in |
30:23 | историческом и одном из самых престижных | historical and one of the most prestigious |
30:25 | районов нью-йорка а как же хваленая | districts of new york but what about the vaunted |
30:29 | закона послушность американских граждан | law obedience to American citizens |
30:31 | или это всего лишь один из | or is it just one of |
30:33 | многочисленных мифов об америке | numerous myths about America |
30:35 | его украли в доме в компании здecь а | he was stolen from the house in the company here a |
30:38 | потом уже начала в квартире хранить | then I started to store in the apartment |
30:42 | [музыка] | [music] |
30:50 | обратная сторона америке кому штатах | the downside of america to states |
30:53 | жить хорошо слышен но жить можно | live well, but you can live |
30:56 | если не злите знаю всех нужных людей | if you don’t get angry I know all the right people |
30:59 | почему в каждом американском городе есть | why does every American city have |
31:02 | плохой район | bad neighborhood |
31:03 | уедете хорошего улицам боготы дома | you will leave the good streets of bogota at home |
31:05 | приезжайте на top100 | come to the top100 |
31:07 | начиная с по сразу ухом и сколько | starting at once by ear and how much |
31:09 | граждан уже сбежали из сша оси но я вижу | citizens have already fled from the us axis but i see |
31:14 | куда движется сша они теряют силу | where the usa is heading they are losing power |
31:16 | это империя идет к упадку | this empire is on the decline |
31:20 | [музыка] | [music] |
31:24 | в маленьком городке на урон в штате | in a small town for damage in the state |
31:27 | флорида алексей борисов боялся не за | florida alexey borisov was not afraid for |
31:30 | имущество а за безопасности жены и | property and for the safety of the wife and |
31:33 | ребенка оказалось что похищение детей в | child, it turned out that the abduction of children in |
31:36 | южных штатах америки совсем не редкость | southern states of america is not uncommon |
31:38 | очень много объявлений в магазинах о том | a lot of advertisements in stores about |
31:40 | что много похищена детей про весит | that many kidnapped children weigh about |
31:42 | огромна доска написано количество | huge board written number |
31:44 | похищенных людей и это становится тоже | kidnapped people and it becomes too |
31:46 | не по себе очень сильно безопасность | very uncomfortable security |
31:49 | детей детей никогда не отпускают одни | children children are never let go alone |
31:51 | гулять тоже флоте нельзя ни детям гулять | the navy is not allowed to walk either, nor for children to walk |
31:54 | там после восьми вечера смешиваются с | there after eight in the evening they mix with |
31:56 | таким виды преступности в сша справиться | cope with such types of crime in the usa |
31:59 | пока не смогли | haven't been able to |
32:01 | а вот за мелкие нарушения обязательно | but for minor violations it is obligatory |
32:03 | накажут | punished |
32:04 | причем в полицию или другие органы | and to the police or other authorities |
32:07 | правопорядка о правонарушениях зачастую | law and order about offenses are often |
32:09 | сообщают соседи | neighbors say |
32:11 | или коллеге по работе elegance очень | or a work colleague elegance is very |
32:13 | любят ссылаться в вашу жизнь частную у | like to refer to your private life |
32:16 | вас не после же газона звонит пожалуйста | please call you not after the lawn |
32:19 | вас еще что-то | you something else |
32:20 | поношу по-русски это стукачество сын | I scoff in Russian this snitching son |
32:22 | развит в америке американские законы эта | developed in America, American laws are |
32:26 | тема которая можно обсуждать бесконечно | a topic that can be discussed endlessly |
32:28 | они эти законы и прекрасны и | they are these laws and are beautiful and |
32:31 | предусмотрительно каждой мелочи | prudently every little thing |
32:33 | при этом некоторые из них поражают своей | while some of them amaze with their |
32:36 | абсурдностью по крайней мере трудно | absurdity at least difficult |
32:38 | найти нормальное объяснение например | find a normal explanation for example |
32:40 | такому закону в штате нью-джерси и | such law in the state of new jersey and |
32:43 | орегоне | oregon |
32:44 | приличный штраф можно получить за то что | a decent fine can be received for the fact that |
32:46 | ты самостоятельно заправил себе | you refueled yourself |
32:48 | автомобиль это должно делать только | the car should only do this |
32:51 | сотрудники заправки но почему а как же | gas station employees but why and how |
32:54 | свобода моя машина я как хочу так и и и | freedom is my car, I want it like this and and and |
32:57 | заправлять или вот например еще один | refuel or, for example, another one |
32:59 | закон за пойманного без разрешения | the law for being caught without permission |
33:02 | лобстера можно сесть в тюрьму | lobster can go to jail |
33:04 | конечно охрана фауны и флоры дело святое | of course, the protection of fauna and flora is a sacred thing |
33:07 | но помилуйте тюрьма это тюрьма даже если | but have mercy prison is a prison even if |
33:11 | она в америке и я убежден что пойманный | she's in america and i'm convinced that caught |
33:13 | рак не стоит так | cancer is not worth it |
33:15 | длинной жизни человека если поймаешь | long life of a man if you catch |
33:19 | лобстера то можно получить пять лет | lobster you can get five years |
33:22 | заключения и люди действительно попадают | conclusions and people really fall |
33:26 | в тюрьму | to jail |
33:26 | этот закон действительно действует его | this law really works his |
33:29 | соблюдают в этом районе северной | observed in this area of the northern |
33:34 | филадельфии | philadelphia |
33:34 | грабежи и разбои происходит почти | robberies and robberies are almost |
33:36 | ежедневно туристам от этого места лучше | every day tourists are better off from this place |
33:39 | держаться подальше | stay away |
33:41 | любой прохожий может получить колотой | any passer-by can get stabbed |
33:43 | урану | uranium |
33:44 | или выстрел в голову в самом большом | or a headshot at the biggest |
33:46 | гетто америке проживает беднейшее | ghetto america is home to the poorest |
33:49 | население страны здешняя школа строго | the population of the country, the local school is strictly |
33:58 | гарри начал | harry started |
33:59 | снискала славу самый опасный в | gained fame as the most dangerous in |
34:02 | соединенных штатах и и коридоры | United States and and Corridors |
34:04 | постоянно патрулирует отряд полицейских | constantly patrols a detachment of police |
34:06 | в здании установлена около сотни камер | there are about a hundred cameras installed in the building |
34:10 | видеонаблюдения женщины жить можно и | video surveillance women can live and |
34:13 | если | if a |
34:14 | если ты знаю всех нужных людей неважно | if you know all the people you need it doesn't matter |
34:18 | в гетто даже сидеть на крыльце или во | in the ghetto, even sit on the porch or in |
34:21 | дворе собственного дома небезопасно | the yard of your own house is unsafe |
34:24 | местные банды то и дело устраивают | local gangs every now and then suit |
34:26 | перестрелки | skirmishes |
34:27 | обнаружил перед домом на дорожке вот | found in front of the house on the path here |
34:30 | такую вещь пулей влетела или в в стену | such a thing flew like a bullet or into the wall |
34:33 | или в фундамент здания дома туз и | or in the foundation of the building of the house an ace and |
34:37 | цепляем мексиканцы на крыльце передам то | we catch the Mexicans on the porch and pass it on |
34:40 | существует опасность что ребята из банд | there is a danger that gang guys |
34:44 | восточных из кого скриппс что они могут | oriental from whom creeps what they can |
34:46 | проекты и мы как бы кого и застрелить | projects and we kind of shoot someone |
34:49 | соединенных штатах америки get то есть | united states of america get that is |
34:52 | во многих крупных городах филадельфии и | in many major cities in Philadelphia and |
34:55 | лос-анджелесе в атланте и детройте | los angeles to atlanta and detroit |
34:58 | чикаго и мемфисе и это не окраина города | chicago and memphis and this is not the outskirts of the city |
35:01 | опасный район как правило находится по | the dangerous area is usually located at |
35:04 | соседству с благополучно уедете хорошего | the neighborhood will safely leave the good |
35:07 | улицам боготы дома приезжайте метров сто | the streets of bogota, come home a hundred meters |
35:09 | и начинается просто разруха | and just devastation begins |
35:11 | черные бита мартинус живых и провели там | black bit martinus alive and spent there |
35:14 | где живут черная темнокожие или латинуса | where do black blacks or latinus live |
35:16 | я сразу грязно какой-то мусор какие-то | i'm just dirty some kind of rubbish |
35:20 | кривые домики решетки новых отправляются | crooked lattice houses new ones are sent |
35:22 | опять произошла даров опять хороший | gifts happened again good |
35:24 | богаты дома | rich at home |
35:24 | америка долго пыталась убедить весь мир | America has long tried to convince the whole world |
35:27 | никаких расовых предубеждений и | no racial bias and |
35:30 | столкновений в стране давно нет у всех | no clashes in the country for a long time |
35:33 | граждан равные права и возможности | citizens equal rights and opportunities |
35:36 | ведь даже предыдущий президент сша сын | after all, even the previous president of the united states son |
35:38 | студента из кении | student from kenya |
35:40 | но смотрите что творилось в северной | but look what happened in the north |
35:43 | каролине массовые беспорядки начались | Carolina riots began |
35:45 | после того как полицейские застрелили | after the cops shot |
35:48 | темнокожего мужчину хотя его жена | black man though his wife |
35:50 | предупреждала мужчина не вооружен не | warned the man not armed not |
35:54 | стреляйте не стреляйте у него нет | shoot don't shoot he doesn't have |
35:57 | оружием видео вызвало гнев | weapon video sparked anger |
36:00 | афро-американского населения в | African American population in |
36:02 | результате уличных демонстраций | street demonstrations |
36:04 | пострадала 12 полицейских в балтимор и | injured 12 police officers in baltimore and |
36:07 | вовсе пришлось вызывать национальную | had to call a national |
36:10 | гвардию сша здесь поводом для начала | the us guard is here a reason to start |
36:13 | пункта стала смерть чернокожего | the point was the death of a black man |
36:15 | американца в полицейском участке 100 | American at the police station 100 |
36:18 | представителей правопорядка получили | law enforcement officials received |
36:20 | травмы 200 человек арестовано | injuries 200 people arrested |
36:23 | [музыка] | [music] |
36:24 | [аплодисменты] | [applause] |
36:25 | а кошмар фергюсоне грозил перерасти во | and Ferguson's nightmare threatened to escalate into |
36:28 | всеобщей бунт чернокожих общин волнения | general riot of black communities unrest |
36:32 | охватили и другие города | covered other cities |
36:33 | весь мир увидел какие внутренние | the whole world saw what internal |
36:36 | противоречия раздирают америку проблема | America is torn apart by controversy |
36:39 | в том что существует ярко выраженное | that there is a pronounced |
36:41 | неравенства и для некоторых людей все | inequality and for some people all |
36:43 | сложнее исполнить американскую мечту не | harder to fulfill the American dream is not |
36:46 | так давно дональд трамп был вынужден | so long ago donald trump was forced to |
36:48 | признать что афроамериканцам реально | admit that blacks are real |
36:50 | есть на что жаловаться в америке | there is something to complain about in America |
36:52 | миллионы из них живут в нищете а школы в | millions of them live in poverty and schools in |
36:55 | которых обучаются их дети никуда не | which their children study nowhere |
36:57 | годятся так сказал про после отмены | fit so said about after cancellation |
37:00 | рабства в сша прошло полтора с лишним | slavery in the usa passed a half and a half |
37:02 | столетия однако за такой огромный срок | centuries, however, for such a long time |
37:05 | америке не удалось достичь реального | America failed to reach real |
37:07 | равноправие и предоставить одинаковые | equality and provide the same |
37:10 | возможности всем гражданам а не только | opportunities for all citizens and not only |
37:12 | тем на кого похожи герои голливудских | those who are like the heroes of Hollywood |
37:14 | фильмов о счастливой американской жизни | films about happy American life |
37:18 | взгляните на этого почтенного джан то | take a look at this venerable jan to |
37:20 | вами | you |
37:21 | это нобелевский лауреат биолог джеймс | this is the nobel laureate biologist james |
37:24 | уотсон правда не так давно | watson really not so long ago |
37:26 | из-за разразившегося скандала его лишили | due to the outbreak of the scandal he was deprived of |
37:29 | почетных званий первооткрыватель | honorary titles discoverer |
37:31 | структуры днк заявил что | dna structures stated that |
37:34 | интеллектуальные способности | intellectual abilities |
37:35 | представителей разных рас не идентичной | representatives of different races are not identical |
37:38 | по данным ученого уровень интеллекта | according to the scientist, the level of intelligence |
37:41 | негроидной расы ниже чем у европеоидов | of the Negroid race is lower than that of the Caucasians |
37:44 | если даже в научной элите царят такие | even if such |
37:47 | убеждения о каком единстве нации | beliefs about the unity of the nation |
37:49 | рассказывает миру америка нужно понимать | America tells the world to understand |
37:53 | что соединенные штаты возникли в | that the United States originated in |
37:55 | результате геноцида колонисты приехали | as a result of the genocide, the colonists arrived |
37:58 | из европы они убили | from europe they killed |
38:00 | они убили и устроили геноцид коренных | they killed and committed genocide of the indigenous |
38:03 | американцев в истории сша во всей | Americans in the history of the United States throughout |
38:07 | истории сша есть только 12 лет когда | US history is only 12 years old when |
38:10 | царил мир все остальное время америка | America reigned the rest of the time |
38:13 | вела войны эти кадры сняты в обычном | fought wars, this footage was filmed in the usual |
38:16 | американском модели в таких | American model in such |
38:18 | останавливаются во время путешествий по | stop while traveling |
38:21 | стране как думаете что хранится в | country what do you think is stored in |
38:23 | верхнем ящике тумбочки а есть лежит | the top drawer of the bedside table and there is |
38:27 | бедны в принципе все гостиниц которые | in principle, all hotels are poor |
38:29 | останавливался особенно в модели не | stayed especially in the model not |
38:32 | всегда лежат библии социологи говорят | bibles always lie sociologists say |
38:35 | что 80 процент | that 80 percent |
38:37 | жители америки религиозный верят в бога | americans religious believe in god |
38:39 | время от времени посещают мессы | attend mass from time to time |
38:42 | но еще сильнее они верят в | but they believe even more in |
38:45 | исключительность собственной страны | exclusivity of one's own country |
38:47 | американцы убеждены именно соединенные | Americans are convinced it is the united |
38:50 | штаты даруют миру свободу и демократию | states grant freedom and democracy to the world |
38:55 | есть обычная религия где есть бог и | there is an ordinary religion where there is a god and |
38:58 | библия а есть и вторая религия в | bible a there is also a second religion b |
39:01 | отношении сша есть пророки и тации | the United States has prophets and nations |
39:07 | основателя такие как джордж вашингтон | founder such as george washington |
39:10 | авраам линкольн есть особые места | Abraham Lincoln has special places |
39:13 | сакральные как храмы это весь вашингтон | sacred like temples this is all washington |
39:19 | аламо в сан-антонио у американцев есть | alamo in san antonio americans have |
39:25 | также своя библия это декларация | also its own bible is a declaration |
39:28 | независимости и конституция только | independence and constitution only |
39:33 | представьте | imagine |
39:33 | у 64 процентов граждан америки нет | 64 percent of American citizens do not |
39:37 | загранпаспорта | international passports |
39:38 | иностранцев это удивляет американцев нет | it surprises foreigners no americans |
39:41 | они рассуждают просто зачем покидать | they reason just why leave |
39:44 | самую лучшую страну в мире даже на время | the best country in the world even for a while |
39:48 | это в россии мы с нетерпением ждём | we are looking forward to this in russia |
39:50 | отпуска весь год откладываем на | we postpone holidays all year for |
39:52 | долгожданное путешествие в турцию | long awaited trip to Turkey |
39:54 | таиланд или болгарию в америке все | thailand or bulgaria in america everything |
39:58 | по-другому вы не поверите но многие | in another way you will not believe but many |
40:00 | жители сша добровольно отказываются от | residents of the united states voluntarily refuse |
40:03 | отпуска они берут денежную компенсацию и | they take monetary compensation and |
40:07 | продолжают работы только 25 процентов | only 25 percent continue to work |
40:11 | американцев имеют оплачиваемый отпуск | Americans have paid leave |
40:14 | но чисто и они не пользуются этим когда | but clean and they don't use it when |
40:17 | я работал на федеральное правительство я | i worked for the federal government i |
40:20 | не пользовался отпуском потому что мог | didn’t take vacation because I could |
40:22 | получить эти деньги в конце года если | get this money at the end of the year if |
40:26 | выбор стоит между новым телевизором | the choice is between the new TV |
40:28 | автомобилем и отпуском то большинства | by car and vacation then most |
40:30 | американцев купят новый телевизор или | Americans will buy a new TV or |
40:35 | хороший добротная деревянная кухня | good solid wooden kitchen |
40:38 | огромный двухдверный холодильник | huge two-door refrigerator |
40:40 | шкафы в которых можно играть в прятки | cabinets in which you can play hide and seek |
40:43 | рядом со спальней с просторной кроватью | next to the bedroom with a spacious bed |
40:46 | удобная ванная комната невероят | comfortable bathroom incredible |
40:49 | но все это разместилась в дорожном | but all this is housed in the road |
40:51 | фургоне джон и mercedes кондон вместе с | Van John and Mercedes Condon together with |
40:55 | маленькой дочкой так путешествует по | little daughter so travels around |
40:57 | стране | country |
40:58 | четыре года назад супружеская пара была | four years ago, a married couple was |
41:00 | на грани развода но вместо этого они | on the verge of divorce but instead they |
41:03 | продали имущество купили дом на колесах | sold property bought a mobile home |
41:06 | длиной в 12 метров и покинули родной | 12 meters long and left their home |
41:09 | массачусетс у нас очень большая | Massachusetts is very large |
41:12 | морозилка около 500 литров у нас | freezer of about 500 liters with us |
41:16 | полноценная кухня в доме с духовкой | full kitchen in the house with an oven |
41:18 | плитой и микроволновкой и мне очень | stove and microwave and I am very |
41:21 | нравится готовить на улице на гриле | I like to cook outside on the grill |
41:23 | я готовлю там стейки и морепродукты aber | I cook steaks and seafood there aber |
41:26 | sie das отличный пекарь массачусетс | sie das great baker massachusetts |
41:30 | северная каролина флорида | north carolina florida |
41:32 | семья объехала полстраны через каждые | the family traveled half the country every |
41:35 | три часа будьте jon & mercy до сделают | three o'clock be jon & mercy until they do |
41:37 | остановки как и предписывают правила | stops as prescribed by the rules |
41:40 | вождения длинных фургонов но дольше | driving long vans but longer |
41:43 | всего пришлось задержаться в йосемитском | all had to stay in Yosemite |
41:45 | национальном парке в калифорнии стоянка | national park in california parking lot |
41:48 | затянулась на два месяца и на то были | dragged on for two months and for that there were |
41:51 | чрезвычайные причины пыхал далее мы | extraordinary reasons puffed further we |
41:54 | увидели целую семью голубых соек которые | saw a whole family of blue jays that |
41:57 | решили светлане сдо прямо на нашем | Svetlana decided to do it right on our |
41:59 | фургоне они отложили яйца мы поняли что | they laid eggs in the van, we realized that |
42:03 | нам придется подождать пока из яиц | we will have to wait until the eggs |
42:05 | вылупятся птенцы и смогут улететь | the chicks will hatch and be able to fly away |
42:08 | мы застряли то на два месяца если бы мы | we were stuck for two months if we |
42:12 | уехали до того как вылупились бы птенцы | left before the chicks hatched |
42:14 | нам бы назначили штраф 15000 долларов и | we would be fined $ 15,000 and |
42:18 | заключение в течение полугода поэтому мы | confinement within six months so we |
42:22 | никуда не уезжали | didn't go anywhere |
42:25 | чтобы отдохнуть от дороги | to take a break from the road |
42:27 | путешественники обычно останавливаются | travelers usually stop |
42:29 | на территории больших курортов или | on the territory of large resorts or |
42:32 | отелей с оборудованными охраняемыми | hotels with equipped guarded |
42:35 | автостоянками пути безопасность | car parks ways safety |
42:38 | обеспечивают собственными силами | provide on their own |
42:40 | у нас есть камеры прибор ночного видения | we have cameras night vision |
42:44 | свет с датчиком движения | light with motion sensor |
42:46 | у меня есть оружие в багажнике и в | I have a gun in the trunk and in |
42:48 | других местах | other places |
42:52 | соединенных штатах миллионы людей | United States millions of people |
42:54 | постоянно путешествуют в домах на | constantly travel to homes on |
42:56 | колесах молодежь предпочитает более | on wheels, youth prefers more |
42:59 | дешевые минивены и микроавтобусы | cheap minivans and minibuses |
43:02 | переделанные для этой цели а вот за | converted for this purpose, but for |
43:04 | пределы страны американцы выезжать не | Americans do not travel outside the country |
43:07 | любят казалось бы безобидная привычка но | love a seemingly harmless habit but |
43:10 | она имеет серьезные последствия и без | it has serious consequences without |
43:13 | железного занавеса американцы оказались | the iron curtain, the Americans were |
43:15 | отрезаны от внешнего мира подавляющее | cut off from the outside world overwhelming |
43:19 | большинство граждан закрывает глаза на | most citizens turn a blind eye to |
43:21 | агрессивную внешнюю политику страны пока | the country's aggressive foreign policy so far |
43:24 | саша бомбят югославию ливию galaxy | sasha bombard yugoslavia livia galaxy |
43:28 | счастливые американцы продолжают жарить | happy americans keep frying |
43:31 | барбекю на лужайках | barbecue on the lawns |
43:33 | у дома американские летчики бомбят людей | American pilots are bombing people outside the house |
43:37 | времени убивают десятки тысяч людей это | time killing tens of thousands of people this |
43:42 | настоящая гуманитарная катастрофа в мире | a real humanitarian catastrophe in the world |
43:46 | это то что происходит сейчас времени и | this is what is happening now and |
43:50 | большинство американцев даже не | most Americans don't even |
43:52 | подозревают об этом это их осознанно и | suspect this is their deliberately and |
43:56 | невежество они осознанно не хотят знать | ignorance they deliberately do not want to know |
44:00 | что происходит в остальном мире | what is happening in the rest of the world |
44:04 | трэвис были коренной американец родился | Travis were Native American born |
44:08 | в айдахо в штате юта | in idaho in utah |
44:09 | получил юридическое образование в техасе | law degree in texas |
44:12 | работал в вашингтоне | worked in washington |
44:14 | однако принял решение покинуть родную | however, he decided to leave his native |
44:16 | страну и сейчас оформляет документы для | country and is now preparing documents for |
44:20 | постоянного проживания в россии | permanent residence in Russia |
44:23 | сша ведут себя агрессивно | the united states are behaving aggressively |
44:25 | у мартина лютера кинга есть высказывание | Martin Luther King has a saying |
44:28 | что величайший распространитель насилия | that the greatest spreader of violence |
44:31 | это моя страна я не могу молчать об этом | this is my country, I cannot be silent about it |
44:35 | это то как я себя чувствую трэвис | this is how i feel travis |
44:38 | убежден россия единственная страна | convinced Russia is the only country |
44:41 | которая открыта противостоит агрессивной | which is openly opposed to aggressive |
44:44 | политики соединенных штатов сам для себя | United States policy for himself |
44:47 | он решил что не хочет американского | he decided he didn't want American |
44:49 | благополучия полученного за счет других | well-being obtained at the expense of others |
44:52 | стран иногда нужно принять решение | countries sometimes need to make a decision |
44:55 | ногами и я это сделал потому что в сша у | kicking and I did it because in the USA |
44:59 | меня не было возможности высказаться мне | I had no opportunity to speak to me |
45:02 | многое нравится в америке я американец | I like a lot in America I am American |
45:05 | я один из них и когда я говорю с | I am one of them and when I speak with |
45:07 | американцами | Americans |
45:08 | у меня есть чувство причастности | I have a sense of belonging |
45:10 | которого нет здесь | which is not here |
45:11 | но я вижу куда движется сша они теряют | but i see where the usa is going they are losing |
45:14 | силу по прогнозам travis были следующие | the travis predicted the strength of the following |
45:18 | десять лет для соединенных штатов | ten years for the united states |
45:20 | америки будут крайне сложными и прежде | america will be extremely difficult before |
45:23 | всего из-за нежелания признать у россии | just because of unwillingness to recognize from Russia |
45:26 | и китая равноправных партнеров реально | and china equal partners really |
45:29 | оценить изменения произошедшие в мире за | assess the changes that have occurred in the world for |
45:32 | последние десятилетия есть известное | the last decades there is a well-known |
45:38 | высказывание наполеона | Napoleon's statement |
45:39 | империя умирают от несварения желудка | empire die of indigestion |
45:42 | империи начинают поглощать и поглощать и | empires begin to swallow and devour and |
45:45 | поглощать сша же продолжает затевать все | swallow up the United States continues to plot everything |
45:51 | эти войны и как результат экономика | these wars and, as a result, the economy |
45:54 | ухудшаться полина алиева получив | deteriorate polina alieva received |
45:59 | престижное образование в нью-йорке что | prestigious education in new york what |
46:01 | же возвращается в москву | returns to Moscow |
46:04 | девушка основывалась не на | the girl was not based on |
46:05 | геополитических прогнозах и оценках | geopolitical forecasts and estimates |
46:08 | экспертов | experts |
46:09 | а просто сравнила жизнь в сша и россии я | but I just compared life in the usa and russia |
46:12 | вижу для себя тут больше возможностей | I see more opportunities for myself here |
46:14 | потому что если я буду работать то я | because if I work then I |
46:16 | буду работать как бы ну для своего дома | I will work as if well for my house |
46:18 | на для своей страны не просто тут | not just here for your country |
46:21 | нравится | Like |
46:21 | одним из символов соединенных штатов | one of the symbols of the United States |
46:24 | америки давно стала открытая | America has long been open |
46:26 | голливудская улыбка | Hollywood smile |
46:27 | но можно ли ей доверять в россии | but can you trust her in Russia |
46:30 | улыбаются чтобы поддержать порадовать | smile to support please |
46:33 | поделиться хорошим настроением в америке | share a good mood in America |
46:36 | даже это простое действие имеет другое | even this simple action has a different |
46:39 | значение в этой белоснежной улыбки во | meaning in this snow-white smile in |
46:42 | многом и заключается суть | much is the essence |
46:44 | американской нации интер на работе | American nation inter at work |
46:48 | американцев часто обязывают улыбаться | Americans are often obliged to smile |
46:50 | потому что это делает покупателя более | because it makes the buyer more |
46:53 | счастливым и следовательно | happy and therefore |
46:55 | работодателя так как приходят деньги | employer since the money comes |
46:58 | сегодня родной для жителей сша | native to us today |
47:01 | английский язык учат почти во всех | English is taught in almost all |
47:04 | странах | countries |
47:05 | и многие без труда могут поговорить с | and many can easily talk to |
47:07 | американцами | Americans |
47:08 | но готовы ли они сами ответить не | but are they ready to answer themselves not |
47:12 | дежурной улыбкой | duty smile |
47:13 | а живым интересом и уважением к | but a keen interest and respect for |
47:17 | собеседникам | interlocutors |
47:20 | [музыка] | [music] |
47:22 | она сегодня шокирующий гипотез нет если | today she is a shocking hypothesis, no if |
47:26 | вы хотите знать больше того что я | you want to know more than me |
47:28 | рассказываю в программе если вы хотите | I tell it in the program if you want |
47:30 | задать вопрос или рассказать свою | ask a question or tell your |
47:32 | историю подписывайтесь на мой инстаграмм | history subscribe to my instagram |
47:35 | прокопенко . | Prokopenko. |
47:36 | а мы с вами встретимся уже завтра в | and we will meet tomorrow at |
47:39 | программе самые шокирующие гипотезы как | program the most shocking hypotheses like |
47:42 | всегда | always |
47:43 | 1800 | 1800 |
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Putin on ideology - difference between Americans and Russians
- Putin on ideology - difference between Americans and Russians
President Putin states:
- Russians are collective Americans are individualistic.
- American genocide of the Indian had no equal in history. Slavery is a part of history of America, racism is still in America (he mentions Colin Powell's book)
- America dropped an atomic bomb on a non-nuclear state. President Putin argues that Stalin would never had done this in 1945 (maybe in 1941 or 1942).
Russia and America have come together in both WW1 and WW2.
- Transcript
00:00 небольшое уточнение просто мой вопрос 00:01 был не только америка на и иранских 00:05 отношениях но я 00:06 американо российских отношений и наличия 00:09 согласны вы с этим или нет 00:11 идеологических фундаментальных 00:13 противоречия 00:14 ключевым вопросы между из перед в час 00:18 обамы вы меня прямо так тонко я считаю 00:23 что и возможно больше чем всем остальным 00:25 я думаю что вы не заметите нет заметили 00:28 вы действительно какой цепкий боец 00:31 значит у нас идеологических противоречий 00:34 на сегодняшний день практически нет у 00:36 нас есть фундаментальные 00:37 культурологические в основе 00:40 американского самосознания лежит 00:43 индивидуалистическая идея в основе 00:45 российского коллективистской вот есть 00:51 один из исследователей пушкина которая 00:53 об этом очень точно и ясно сказал вот 00:55 унесенные ветром помнить там главная 00:57 героиня 00:58 она говорит что я могу себе представить 01:01 что я буду голодать 01:03 вот для нее это самое главное а в нашем 01:07 представлении представление русского 01:09 человека 01:09 все-таки другие задачи это что такое за 01:15 горизонт уходящие что-то такое душевное 01:18 что такое связано с бог знает это 01:22 немножко разная философию жизнь и 01:25 поэтому понять друг друга довольно 01:26 сложно но но можно народное право да вот 01:36 сидел что это безусловно демократическая 01:40 страна и она развивалась изначально как 01:43 демократическое государство ведь когда 01:45 люди начали осваивать этот континент не 01:47 приезжали выстраивали отношению друг с 01:49 другом и по по факту жизни вынуждены 01:53 были это делать в диалоге друг другу 01:55 поэтому она изначально рождалось как 01:57 фундаментальная демократия вместе с тем 02:00 не будем забывать что освоение 02:01 американского континента вы меня заводит 02:03 в мвд при мне не хочется об этом 02:04 говорить но освоение американского 02:07 континента началось в крупномасштабные 02:10 этнической чистки которая не имела себе 02:14 равных в истории человечества 02:16 ведь европейского приехали они этим мы 02:19 занимались на прямо об этом сказать она 02:21 не знаю вот человек что не так много 02:24 известно и заставил скажем уничтожение 02:26 карфагена римляне мида когда они уходили 02:28 они даже землю так вот легенд гласит 02:31 солью посыпали что там ничего не росло а 02:34 освоение американского континента 02:36 европейцами там земли никто не посыпал 02:37 ну что использовали 02:39 но уничтожали коренное население после 02:41 этого американской 02:42 американская история знает рабство и она 02:45 так глубоко проникла ведь колин получу 02:48 свои книжки написал как ему было тяжело 02:53 человеку с темным цветом кожи тяжело 02:56 было пройдет как он всегда чувствовал на 02:57 себе взгляды окружающих значит это сидит 03:01 сидит наверняка до сих пор в душах и 03:05 сердцах людей 03:07 ведь но вот смотрите мы знаем сегодня 03:14 очень многие стороны советского режима 03:17 знаем сталина так как и раньше мы его не 03:21 знали знаем что это был диктатор тиран я 03:26 очень сомневаюсь что бы сталин в весной 03:30 45-го года если бы у него была атомная 03:33 бомба применил бою против германии в 03:37 сорок первом сорок втором году когда 03:39 стояла 03:39 ставил вопросы о жизни или смерти 03:41 государство может быть он применил если 03:45 бы у него был а в 45 когда уже противник 03:49 все сдавался по сути дела 03:52 шансов у него никаких не было я 03:56 сомневаюсь вот я лично американцы 03:59 применили против япония терпяще 04:01 поражения причем против государь не 04:05 ядерного государства знаете вот у нас у 04:09 нас большие различия между нами но это 04:14 ведь нормально когда люди с такими 04:15 большими различиями 04:17 полны решимости искать пути которые 04:21 помогают понимать друг друга и мне 04:25 представляется что у нас нет другого 04:27 выбора и более того да ведь не случайно 04:31 что в критические периоды 04:35 современные новейшей истории россия и 04:40 соединенные штаты объединялись и в 04:42 первую мировую войну и во второй мировой 04:44 ну вот как бы как бы не противостояли 04:47 друг другу а когда вот гром грянул 04:50 произошло объединение что-то все-таки 04:53 объединяет какие-то фундаментальные 04:56 интересы объединяют нам нужно нам нужно 05:00 вот на это обращает внимание прежде 05:03 всего знать наши различия но но при этом 05:06 все-таки обращать внимание на тот 05:07 позитив который поможет нам сотрудничать
FSB KGB Putin tells Russian KGB spy joke
00:00 в пятую комнату я американский шпион
00:03 хочу сдаться у вас оружие есть есть а
00:06 седьмую пожалуйста он 7 я шпион хочу
00:08 сдаться у меня есть оружие в 10 десятую
00:12 шпион хочу сдаться у меня 2 средства
00:15 связи есть есть в 20 комнат пошла я
00:19 шпион у меня есть хорошее средство связи
00:21 я хочу сдать его спрашивают а задание то
00:24 у вас есть есть но идите и исполняйте не
00:28 мешайте людям работы VIPS How to Create and Save Playlist in VLC Media Player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzlcq69yOLA&ab_channel=HOWZA
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USE OPENSHOT video editor TO ADD IMAGES TO YOUR VIDEO
https://www.kapwing.com/ = great editor - maximum 7 minutes
- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR5GrKMeaZJxPKVMdEgKIKA?sub_confirmation=1 youtube channel
- https://www.kapwing.com/resources/how-to-add-multiple-audio How to add multiple video
https://mp3cut.net/ = audio cutter - BEST
https://online-video-cutter.com/ = video cutter
https://www.onlineconverter.com/merge-video merge videos
Top 8 Free Tools to Rotate or Flip Videos (online under 100 MBs)
https://www.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/free-video-editing-software-no-watermark.html
Best free video editing SOFTWARE tools with no watermark
https://en.softonic.com/top/free-video-editing-software-tools-with-no-watermark
5 online video editors with no watermark
https://windowsreport.com/online-video-editors/
Add text to video
https://www.kapwing.com/studio/editor https://ezgif.com/add-text
Crop video
Remove audio
merge 2 videos software (3)
https://beecut.com/free-video-merger.html
- Online WATERMARK
https://clideo.com/editor/merge-video
Kdenlive
rotate video
Save as mp4
Exporting your videos in Kdenlive
click "I" put a start point and
I'm going to go to the end I'm just going to
go to the end and I press "o" and create end point.
push render button.
choose selected zone.
[save location]
click render to file.
How to delete sound track only
https://askubuntu.com/questions/872648/muting-certain-audio-part-in-movie-clip-using-kdenlive
Rotate video
Send a free fax
https://www.lifewire.com/free-fax-services-2378048
Copy cyrillic webpage names
https://www.webatic.com/url-convertor
Calendar
https://www.calendarpedia.com/calendars/october-2022-calendar.html
VPN
FREE VPN for Windows PC Download in 2021 - BETTERNET.co - entire internet |
- TOMSGUIDE https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-free-vpn - excellent
- Proton VPN Free - 10GB of unrestricted data run out very slow pace of 1Mbps. 12 locations in 9 countries. https://signup.privadovpn.com/best-free-vpn
- Privado VPN
- Windscribe
- Atlas VPN
- Hide.me
- Hotspot Shield Basic
Download programs
- CNET excellent! https://download.cnet.com
windows 10 change mouse visible
Make your mouse more visible by changing the color and size of the mouse pointer.
Start button
Settings >
Ease of Access >
Cursor & pointer , and
choose the options that work best for you.
Desktop programs downloaded and installed
Programs downloaded
- Active Presenter -
- AnyMP4 Studio - Paid
- Audacity - Free open source - https://www.audacityteam.org/
- Badicut - Bandicut Video Cutter, Joiner and Splitter Software - Bandicam https://www.bandicam.com/bandicut-video-cutter
- FalshIntegro - https://www.videosoftdev.com/about-us
- VSDC Free Audio Converter - https://www.videosoftdev.com/free-audio-converter
- Freemake -
- LabView -
- Lightshot - https://app.prntscr.com/en screenshot program
- ShareX -
- smart Notebook -
- WeChat -
- VLC Media player
- Free Cam 8 - WMV file only (cannot be uploaded needs to be converted first) - https://www.freescreenrecording.com
Bulk rename utility Bulk file rename utility
Firefox Need to get rid of "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/utbtdl/need_to_get_rid_of_importenterpriseroots
The two ways to lock a preference are:
(1) Enterprise Policy -- check about:policies
This can be done by dropping a file: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson
(2) Autoconfig
This is done by dropping two files: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-autoconfig
What is "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1306557
This is a pretty common question that gets asked here.
The ImportEnterpriseRoots policy is setup by a lot of security programs (antivirus, firewall, etc). Security programs often use this policy so that they can view incoming secure connections to check that the content is safe, without triggering error messages in Firefox.
That policy has no impact on what settings you will be able to use in Firefox. It will cause the "Your computer is being managed by your organization" warning message to appear on top of the settings page, but that's it.
Removing that policy from your computer often causes your security program to stop working and/or will cause issues in Firefox when loading some websites.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Telegram
Telegram discussion group with "chat history for new members"
Called Discussion button
- https://www.v-user.com/en/blog/how-to-activate-comments-on-telegram-channels
- https://core.telegram.org/api/discussion
- https://www.alphr.com/add-comment-to-channel-telegram
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SvNrM8QW0 Youtube 2022
- https://www.istaunch.com/export-telegram-contacts-and-group-members/
scrape users in telegram
- https://exybot.com/telegram-kit-2-0/ expensive $250
Export telegram contacts on pc windows
How to Export Telegram Contacts and Group Members (PC)
Download and install Telegram for Windows/Mac on PC.
Launch Telegram on your PC and login to your account using Phone Number or QR code.
After successful login, it will take you to the Dashboard where you find the list of the conversations, here
- tap on the three lines icon at the top on PC.
- It will open a new menu with the list of options, select Settings.
- Next, click on Advanced as shown in the below image.
- Scroll down to the last and tap on the Export Telegram Data.
- After that, select the data you want to export from Telegram. Just select the Account Information and Contact list option.
- Scroll down and select the location where you want to download the data and select Human-readable HTML format. Tap on the Export.
VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6LRDTIPjE&t=42s&ab_channel=SmartFixer
upload video anonymously drag and drop
https://www.veed.io/send-video
VLC MEDIA PLAYER
ActivePresenter
Record screen with video.
Excellent! Downloaded from RuTracker.org August 28 2022 only 44 MB.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6002607
How to Export ActivePresenter Projects to Videos
https://atomisystems.com/tutorials/export-activepresenter-projects-videos/
8 Best Screen Recorders for Windows 10 in 2022- Free & Paid
https://atomisystems.com/screencasting/record-screen-windows-10/
Bulk converting audio files into one
DOESNT WORK
VSDC Pro Video Editor 7.1
RuTracker.ORG
19 Best Free Software to Batch Convert WMA To MP3 for Windows https://listoffreeware.com/free-software-batch-convert-wma-to-mp3-windows/
- https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=40113587 Wondershare UniConverter does not support .WMA wma files
AnyMP4 MXF Converter 8.0.10 RePack (& Portable) by TryRooM [2020,Multi/Ru]
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5956123
https://www.google.com/search?q=unlock+%22wma%22+protected+files
10 ways to bulk convert audio files into one
From: https://multimedia.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/audio-joiner.html#part3
3. Copy Command on Windows
Platform: Windows
Windows allows you to merge audio from the command prompt. Here is the command you can use is as follows:
copy /b *.mp3 c:\merged.mp3
The command above means it will find all MP3 files in the directory and join them into the merged.mp3 file.
If you want to add only a few files add them accordingly using a "+" sign in between.
- Pros
No need to install a software
The simplest way to merge audio files without losing quality
- Cons
Not possible to edit the files
No way to change the format of the output file
Cumbersome to use.
VLC
Source: https://www.videoproc.com/audio-editor/best-audio-mergers.htm
3. How to Merge MP3 Files on Windows 10 with VLC
VLC is an open-source free program that you can free access to. Based on its introduction of how to merge videos, we have tested its capability of combining audio files, and it turns out to be feasible as well. Before we kick off, you need to make sure that all of your audio files have the file extension of .mp3. Otherwise, this method may not work for you. (Notice: if you have different formatted audio files such as .flac and .mp3, see the workaround.)
Step 1. Download and install VLC on your computer.
You are recommended to install VLC locally by its default route.
Step 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts
Win+X > click Command Prompt in the pop-up list.
Or, use the hotkey combination
Win+R to open Run >
type cmd in the box >
hit Enter
Then the Command Prompt will be opened as well.
Run Command Prompt
[Win+R] > cmd to run Command Prompt
Step 3. In the Command Prompt, enter the command: cd c:\mp3, then hit the Enter key.
- Sidenote: The c:\mp3 command is the file folder directory where your mp3 audio files are kept. If your audio files are kept on C disk, c:\ file location
Step 4: There will be c:\mp3> command already existing, copy and paste commands as follows:
"C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vv 1.mp3 2.mp3 --sout-keep --sout=#gather:transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128}:standard{access=file,mux=dummy,dst=combinedout.mp3}
- Sidenotes:
- 1. C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe command refers to the directory path where the VLC launching program is located in your Windows computer, which is also the default path of VLC setup. Change it if you've set a different destination path for your VLC installation.
- 2. The 1.mp3 2.mp3 command refers to the filename of your audio tracks. Customize the part based on your personal demands.
- 3. The combinedout.mp3 command refers to the file name of the combined file. You can change it to the one you like.
Reset password Change or reset your Windows password
Select Start >
Settings >
Accounts >
Sign-in options .
Under Password, select the Change button and follow the steps.
https://www.rbth.com/articles/2011/12/07/a_rewarding_challenge_13919.html
Download youtube videos in bulk
YouTube Playlist: How to Download YouTube Videos in Bulk
Try 4K Video Downloader Today! EXCELLENT
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Download YouTube videos that you've uploaded BASTARDS
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/56100?hl=en
how to burn a disk
How to Burn a CD or DVD on Windows 10 https://www.howtogeek.com/689705/how-to-burn-a-cd-or-dvd-on-windows-10/
GRAMFILE
https://gramfile.com/active-iso-burner-download/
Ashampoo Burning Studio Free 1.23.8.0
https://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirror/ashampoo_burning_studio_free,1.html
HP INK TANK WIRELESS
How do I switch between ink tank and cartridge on HP Ink 410 series ?
I want to disable the use of the ink cartridges completely.
Is there any articles or videos on how the HP ink cartridge works when there is tank? I wanted to buy a printer WITHOUT a ink cartridge. I did not realize there are two expensive to replace ink cartridges inside.
Download whatsapp messages in bulk batch
https://www.unictool.com/whatsapp/export-all-whatsapp-chats-at-once/
How to Take Batch Screenshots or Screencaps in VLC Media Player
FEB 1, 2021
https://turbofuture.com/computers/How-to-take-batch-screenshots-or-screencaps-in-VLC-Media-Player
Download all whatsapp contacts in a whatsapp group video
How to Export WhatsApp Group Contacts to Excel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
Shortcuts for chrome webpages
subtitles and closed caption freeware
Subtitle Editor
Subtitle Edit
Overview
Subtitle Edit is a free (open source) editor for video subtitles - a subtitle editor :)
With SE you can easily adjust a subtitle if it is out of sync with the video in several different ways. You can also use SE for making new subtitles from scratch (do use the time-line/waveform/spectrogram) or translating subtitles.
For a list of features see below or check out the Subtitle Edit Help page. On my blog you can download latest beta version and read about/discuss new features.
Also, you can watch a few videos about installing and using Subtitle Edit.
Transfer import facebook to vk
Coding
https://github.com/mekhovov/Export-Posts-from-FB-2-LI-VK/blob/master/export_FB_2_LI_VK.rb
Convert audio m4a to video
https://www.freeconvert.com/m4a-to-mp4/download DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
RUSSIAN SITE https://online-audio-convert.com/ru/m4a-to-mp4/ DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
kdenlive: crop a video
- kdenlive crop a video
- Click the zone start icon
- Click he zone end icon
- Right click the new zone and extract video
merge 2 videos online
Adobe
https://express.adobe.com/tools/merge-videos/#
Quotes background maker
Delete portions of a page for printing
- Print Edit WE
- To start editing the page:
- click on the Print Edit WE button on the main toolbar, or
- select Print Edit WE > Start Editing on the context menu.
- A blue 'EDIT' (editing) badge will appear on the button.
- To start editing the page:
- Not as good:
How to Print Web Pages and Remove Unwanted Content-
Print Friendly & PDF (overview)
-
wifi
WiFi Keeps Disconnecting on Windows 10? Here’s the Fix
- Wi-Fi drops connection and available networks disappear
- Suggestion: Turn Bluetooth on or off in Windows
Install a Bandwidth Monitor On Your Computer
What's system interrupts high CPU usage in Windows 10
Change Rename Batch Files and Folders in Windows
4 Ways to Batch Rename Files in Windows (USE POWERSHELL)
https://www.maketecheasier.com/batch-rename-files-in-windows/
Rename files by matching partial name (power toys - doesnt work)
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-rename-multiple-files-bulk-windows-10
General:
6 Ways to Rename Files and Folders in Windows 10
https://www.howtogeek.com/665514/6-ways-to-rename-files-and-folders-in-windows-10/
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
- Open File Explorer by using key combination Windows Key + E and navigate to the folder you want to use as a source for view layout settings.
- Windows 10, navigate to the View tab in ribbon baron the top and change the settings per your wish. You can change the layout and choose the folder details to display, add extra panes, adjust column width, etc.
- Once done with the changes, click Options to open the File Explorer Options, earlier called Folder Options. window.
- Finally, navigate to View tab in Folder Options window.
- Click/Tap on Apply to Folders button.\
Sections in a taskbar
- The Windows TaskBar
- The Start Button--Opens the menu.
- The Quick Launch bar--contains shortcuts to commonly used applications. ...
- The main Taskbar--displays icons for all open applications and files.
- The System Tray--contains the clock and icons for some of the programs running in the background.
Unpin a program on the taskbar
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/cant-unpin-or-remove-program-icons-from-windows-10-taskbar
QUICK LAUNCH open folder
[https://www.lifewire.com/add-quick-launch-toolbar-in-windows-10-5115231
Enter %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\ into the navigation field at the top of the window, and press Enter. Click Select Folder. You now have a quick launch toolbar on your taskbar. However, it's on the right side, and the original quick launch was on the left.Aug 4, 2021
How to Add the Quick Launch Toolbar in Windows 10 - Lifewire
show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
How to show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
To change a representation of hyperlinks in a document, do the following:
1. On the File tab, click the Options button:
Options in Word 2016
2. In the Word Options dialog box,
- on the Advanced tab,
- under Show document content,
- uncheck the Show field codes instead of their values checkbox:
Advanced tab in Word Options 2016 After clicking OK, all hyperlinks in the document will be shown as usual, as blue hyperlinks:
Hyperlink in Word 2016
- MICROSOFT WORD - get hyperlinks to show
- File>Options>Advanced> [Show document content] section uncheck the box for "Show field codes instead of their values".
YOUTUBE Add more channels to YouTube
Can You Have More Than One YouTube Channel? (January 21, 2021)
Visit your list of Channels, https://www.youtube.com/account
Click Create a new channel button.
Create a new channel button on YouTube
Give your new account a name, and then click Create.
New Brand Channel Create button on YouTube You'll immediately be taken to your new channel where you can customize your account and upload videos.
Screenshot program for laptop
LIGHTSHOT The fastest way to take a customizable screenshot
HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
If the folder you want to open in Command Prompt is on your desktop or already open in File Explorer, you can quickly change to that directory.
Type cd followed by a space, DRAG AND DROP the folder into the window, and then press Enter. The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
INSTRUCTIONS:
0. Open Command Prompt
02: Copy and paste directory C:\Users\user\Desktop\STUFF
1. Type cd followed by a space,
2. drag and drop the folder into the window, and then
3. press Enter.
The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
- How to copy a list of file names in a folder to text file?
EXCELLENT!
use cmd.exe
type dir /b > dirlist.txt
More instructions may 2024
Command to list all files in a folder as well as sub-folders in
Follow these baby steps:
1. Press Windows + R.
2. Press Enter.
3. cmd.
4. Press Enter.
5. ch (name of directory) Example: C:\Users\**\Desktop\**\** 1994\1993 ** central **
6. Type dir /b > dirlist.txt
7. Press Enter.
from search "get names of all files windows 10 in a folder":
[1] STACK OVERFLOW
"change directory in cmd"
Open the Command Prompt (CMD) and type "cd" with a space, followed by the name of the directory,
or drag and drop the directory into CMD from File Explorer.
Press "Enter." Type "cd.." and press "Enter" to go back one directory.
SSL certificate
Free SSL certificate: https://app.zerossl.com/
Recording voice "on the fly"
Recording voice "on the fly": https://www.vocaroo.com
To sort
https://bulkresizephotos.com/en Bulk Resize photos]
https://kzclip.com Youtube alternative]
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Send a free fax
https://www.lifewire.com/free-fax-services-2378048
Copy cyrillic webpage names
https://www.webatic.com/url-convertor
Calendar
https://www.calendarpedia.com/calendars/october-2022-calendar.html
VPN
FREE VPN for Windows PC Download in 2021 - BETTERNET.co - entire internet |
- TOMSGUIDE https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-free-vpn - excellent
- Proton VPN Free - 10GB of unrestricted data run out very slow pace of 1Mbps. 12 locations in 9 countries. https://signup.privadovpn.com/best-free-vpn
- Privado VPN
- Windscribe
- Atlas VPN
- Hide.me
- Hotspot Shield Basic
Download programs
- CNET excellent! https://download.cnet.com
windows 10 change mouse visible
Make your mouse more visible by changing the color and size of the mouse pointer.
Start button
Settings >
Ease of Access >
Cursor & pointer , and
choose the options that work best for you.
Desktop programs downloaded and installed
Programs downloaded
- Active Presenter -
- AnyMP4 Studio - Paid
- Audacity - Free open source - https://www.audacityteam.org/
- Badicut - Bandicut Video Cutter, Joiner and Splitter Software - Bandicam https://www.bandicam.com/bandicut-video-cutter
- FalshIntegro - https://www.videosoftdev.com/about-us
- VSDC Free Audio Converter - https://www.videosoftdev.com/free-audio-converter
- Freemake -
- LabView -
- Lightshot - https://app.prntscr.com/en screenshot program
- ShareX -
- smart Notebook -
- WeChat -
- VLC Media player
- Free Cam 8 - WMV file only (cannot be uploaded needs to be converted first) - https://www.freescreenrecording.com
Bulk rename utility Bulk file rename utility
Firefox Need to get rid of "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/utbtdl/need_to_get_rid_of_importenterpriseroots
The two ways to lock a preference are:
(1) Enterprise Policy -- check about:policies
This can be done by dropping a file: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson
(2) Autoconfig
This is done by dropping two files: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-autoconfig
What is "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1306557
This is a pretty common question that gets asked here.
The ImportEnterpriseRoots policy is setup by a lot of security programs (antivirus, firewall, etc). Security programs often use this policy so that they can view incoming secure connections to check that the content is safe, without triggering error messages in Firefox.
That policy has no impact on what settings you will be able to use in Firefox. It will cause the "Your computer is being managed by your organization" warning message to appear on top of the settings page, but that's it.
Removing that policy from your computer often causes your security program to stop working and/or will cause issues in Firefox when loading some websites.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Telegram
Telegram discussion group with "chat history for new members"
Called Discussion button
- https://www.v-user.com/en/blog/how-to-activate-comments-on-telegram-channels
- https://core.telegram.org/api/discussion
- https://www.alphr.com/add-comment-to-channel-telegram
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SvNrM8QW0 Youtube 2022
- https://www.istaunch.com/export-telegram-contacts-and-group-members/
scrape users in telegram
- https://exybot.com/telegram-kit-2-0/ expensive $250
Export telegram contacts on pc windows
How to Export Telegram Contacts and Group Members (PC)
Download and install Telegram for Windows/Mac on PC.
Launch Telegram on your PC and login to your account using Phone Number or QR code.
After successful login, it will take you to the Dashboard where you find the list of the conversations, here
- tap on the three lines icon at the top on PC.
- It will open a new menu with the list of options, select Settings.
- Next, click on Advanced as shown in the below image.
- Scroll down to the last and tap on the Export Telegram Data.
- After that, select the data you want to export from Telegram. Just select the Account Information and Contact list option.
- Scroll down and select the location where you want to download the data and select Human-readable HTML format. Tap on the Export.
VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6LRDTIPjE&t=42s&ab_channel=SmartFixer
upload video anonymously drag and drop
https://www.veed.io/send-video
VLC MEDIA PLAYER
ActivePresenter
Record screen with video.
Excellent! Downloaded from RuTracker.org August 28 2022 only 44 MB.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6002607
How to Export ActivePresenter Projects to Videos
https://atomisystems.com/tutorials/export-activepresenter-projects-videos/
8 Best Screen Recorders for Windows 10 in 2022- Free & Paid
https://atomisystems.com/screencasting/record-screen-windows-10/
Bulk converting audio files into one
DOESNT WORK
VSDC Pro Video Editor 7.1
RuTracker.ORG
19 Best Free Software to Batch Convert WMA To MP3 for Windows https://listoffreeware.com/free-software-batch-convert-wma-to-mp3-windows/
- https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=40113587 Wondershare UniConverter does not support .WMA wma files
AnyMP4 MXF Converter 8.0.10 RePack (& Portable) by TryRooM [2020,Multi/Ru]
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https://www.google.com/search?q=unlock+%22wma%22+protected+files
10 ways to bulk convert audio files into one
From: https://multimedia.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/audio-joiner.html#part3
3. Copy Command on Windows
Platform: Windows
Windows allows you to merge audio from the command prompt. Here is the command you can use is as follows:
copy /b *.mp3 c:\merged.mp3
The command above means it will find all MP3 files in the directory and join them into the merged.mp3 file.
If you want to add only a few files add them accordingly using a "+" sign in between.
- Pros
No need to install a software
The simplest way to merge audio files without losing quality
- Cons
Not possible to edit the files
No way to change the format of the output file
Cumbersome to use.
VLC
Source: https://www.videoproc.com/audio-editor/best-audio-mergers.htm
3. How to Merge MP3 Files on Windows 10 with VLC
VLC is an open-source free program that you can free access to. Based on its introduction of how to merge videos, we have tested its capability of combining audio files, and it turns out to be feasible as well. Before we kick off, you need to make sure that all of your audio files have the file extension of .mp3. Otherwise, this method may not work for you. (Notice: if you have different formatted audio files such as .flac and .mp3, see the workaround.)
Step 1. Download and install VLC on your computer.
You are recommended to install VLC locally by its default route.
Step 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts
Win+X > click Command Prompt in the pop-up list.
Or, use the hotkey combination
Win+R to open Run >
type cmd in the box >
hit Enter
Then the Command Prompt will be opened as well.
Run Command Prompt
[Win+R] > cmd to run Command Prompt
Step 3. In the Command Prompt, enter the command: cd c:\mp3, then hit the Enter key.
- Sidenote: The c:\mp3 command is the file folder directory where your mp3 audio files are kept. If your audio files are kept on C disk, c:\ file location
Step 4: There will be c:\mp3> command already existing, copy and paste commands as follows:
"C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vv 1.mp3 2.mp3 --sout-keep --sout=#gather:transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128}:standard{access=file,mux=dummy,dst=combinedout.mp3}
- Sidenotes:
- 1. C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe command refers to the directory path where the VLC launching program is located in your Windows computer, which is also the default path of VLC setup. Change it if you've set a different destination path for your VLC installation.
- 2. The 1.mp3 2.mp3 command refers to the filename of your audio tracks. Customize the part based on your personal demands.
- 3. The combinedout.mp3 command refers to the file name of the combined file. You can change it to the one you like.
Reset password Change or reset your Windows password
Select Start >
Settings >
Accounts >
Sign-in options .
Under Password, select the Change button and follow the steps.
https://www.rbth.com/articles/2011/12/07/a_rewarding_challenge_13919.html
Download youtube videos in bulk
YouTube Playlist: How to Download YouTube Videos in Bulk
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Download YouTube videos that you've uploaded BASTARDS
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how to burn a disk
How to Burn a CD or DVD on Windows 10 https://www.howtogeek.com/689705/how-to-burn-a-cd-or-dvd-on-windows-10/
GRAMFILE
https://gramfile.com/active-iso-burner-download/
Ashampoo Burning Studio Free 1.23.8.0
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HP INK TANK WIRELESS
How do I switch between ink tank and cartridge on HP Ink 410 series ?
I want to disable the use of the ink cartridges completely.
Is there any articles or videos on how the HP ink cartridge works when there is tank? I wanted to buy a printer WITHOUT a ink cartridge. I did not realize there are two expensive to replace ink cartridges inside.
Download whatsapp messages in bulk batch
https://www.unictool.com/whatsapp/export-all-whatsapp-chats-at-once/
How to Take Batch Screenshots or Screencaps in VLC Media Player
FEB 1, 2021
https://turbofuture.com/computers/How-to-take-batch-screenshots-or-screencaps-in-VLC-Media-Player
Download all whatsapp contacts in a whatsapp group video
How to Export WhatsApp Group Contacts to Excel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
Shortcuts for chrome webpages
subtitles and closed caption freeware
Subtitle Editor
Subtitle Edit
Overview
Subtitle Edit is a free (open source) editor for video subtitles - a subtitle editor :)
With SE you can easily adjust a subtitle if it is out of sync with the video in several different ways. You can also use SE for making new subtitles from scratch (do use the time-line/waveform/spectrogram) or translating subtitles.
For a list of features see below or check out the Subtitle Edit Help page. On my blog you can download latest beta version and read about/discuss new features.
Also, you can watch a few videos about installing and using Subtitle Edit.
Transfer import facebook to vk
Coding
https://github.com/mekhovov/Export-Posts-from-FB-2-LI-VK/blob/master/export_FB_2_LI_VK.rb
Convert audio m4a to video
https://www.freeconvert.com/m4a-to-mp4/download DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
RUSSIAN SITE https://online-audio-convert.com/ru/m4a-to-mp4/ DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
kdenlive: crop a video
- kdenlive crop a video
- Click the zone start icon
- Click he zone end icon
- Right click the new zone and extract video
merge 2 videos online
Adobe
https://express.adobe.com/tools/merge-videos/#
Quotes background maker
Delete portions of a page for printing
- Print Edit WE
- To start editing the page:
- click on the Print Edit WE button on the main toolbar, or
- select Print Edit WE > Start Editing on the context menu.
- A blue 'EDIT' (editing) badge will appear on the button.
- To start editing the page:
- Not as good:
How to Print Web Pages and Remove Unwanted Content-
Print Friendly & PDF (overview)
-
wifi
WiFi Keeps Disconnecting on Windows 10? Here’s the Fix
- Wi-Fi drops connection and available networks disappear
- Suggestion: Turn Bluetooth on or off in Windows
Install a Bandwidth Monitor On Your Computer
What's system interrupts high CPU usage in Windows 10
Change Rename Batch Files and Folders in Windows
4 Ways to Batch Rename Files in Windows (USE POWERSHELL)
https://www.maketecheasier.com/batch-rename-files-in-windows/
Rename files by matching partial name (power toys - doesnt work)
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-rename-multiple-files-bulk-windows-10
General:
6 Ways to Rename Files and Folders in Windows 10
https://www.howtogeek.com/665514/6-ways-to-rename-files-and-folders-in-windows-10/
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
- Open File Explorer by using key combination Windows Key + E and navigate to the folder you want to use as a source for view layout settings.
- Windows 10, navigate to the View tab in ribbon baron the top and change the settings per your wish. You can change the layout and choose the folder details to display, add extra panes, adjust column width, etc.
- Once done with the changes, click Options to open the File Explorer Options, earlier called Folder Options. window.
- Finally, navigate to View tab in Folder Options window.
- Click/Tap on Apply to Folders button.\
Sections in a taskbar
- The Windows TaskBar
- The Start Button--Opens the menu.
- The Quick Launch bar--contains shortcuts to commonly used applications. ...
- The main Taskbar--displays icons for all open applications and files.
- The System Tray--contains the clock and icons for some of the programs running in the background.
Unpin a program on the taskbar
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/cant-unpin-or-remove-program-icons-from-windows-10-taskbar
QUICK LAUNCH open folder
[https://www.lifewire.com/add-quick-launch-toolbar-in-windows-10-5115231
Enter %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\ into the navigation field at the top of the window, and press Enter. Click Select Folder. You now have a quick launch toolbar on your taskbar. However, it's on the right side, and the original quick launch was on the left.Aug 4, 2021
How to Add the Quick Launch Toolbar in Windows 10 - Lifewire
show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
How to show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
To change a representation of hyperlinks in a document, do the following:
1. On the File tab, click the Options button:
Options in Word 2016
2. In the Word Options dialog box,
- on the Advanced tab,
- under Show document content,
- uncheck the Show field codes instead of their values checkbox:
Advanced tab in Word Options 2016 After clicking OK, all hyperlinks in the document will be shown as usual, as blue hyperlinks:
Hyperlink in Word 2016
- MICROSOFT WORD - get hyperlinks to show
- File>Options>Advanced> [Show document content] section uncheck the box for "Show field codes instead of their values".
YOUTUBE Add more channels to YouTube
Can You Have More Than One YouTube Channel? (January 21, 2021)
Visit your list of Channels, https://www.youtube.com/account
Click Create a new channel button.
Create a new channel button on YouTube
Give your new account a name, and then click Create.
New Brand Channel Create button on YouTube You'll immediately be taken to your new channel where you can customize your account and upload videos.
Screenshot program for laptop
LIGHTSHOT The fastest way to take a customizable screenshot
HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
If the folder you want to open in Command Prompt is on your desktop or already open in File Explorer, you can quickly change to that directory.
Type cd followed by a space, DRAG AND DROP the folder into the window, and then press Enter. The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
INSTRUCTIONS:
0. Open Command Prompt
02: Copy and paste directory C:\Users\user\Desktop\STUFF
1. Type cd followed by a space,
2. drag and drop the folder into the window, and then
3. press Enter.
The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
- How to copy a list of file names in a folder to text file?
EXCELLENT!
use cmd.exe
type dir /b > dirlist.txt
More instructions may 2024
Command to list all files in a folder as well as sub-folders in
Follow these baby steps:
1. Press Windows + R.
2. Press Enter.
3. cmd.
4. Press Enter.
5. ch (name of directory) Example: C:\Users\**\Desktop\**\** 1994\1993 ** central **
6. Type dir /b > dirlist.txt
7. Press Enter.
from search "get names of all files windows 10 in a folder":
[2] STACK OVERFLOW
"change directory in cmd"
Open the Command Prompt (CMD) and type "cd" with a space, followed by the name of the directory,
or drag and drop the directory into CMD from File Explorer.
Press "Enter." Type "cd.." and press "Enter" to go back one directory.
SSL certificate
Free SSL certificate: https://app.zerossl.com/
Recording voice "on the fly"
Recording voice "on the fly": https://www.vocaroo.com
To sort
https://bulkresizephotos.com/en Bulk Resize photos]
https://kzclip.com Youtube alternative]
https://alternatives.app/software/711/Kapwing free video editors list]
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https://wordmvp.com/FAQs/General/UsingWildcards.htm Microsoft Advanced Find and replace]
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iSpring Free Cam
When you're ready to start recording, click the red Start Recording button on the left side of the Free Cam toolbar. When you are finished, you can stop recording by clicking Done in the right side of the toolbar or the Esc key on your keyboard.
Free not tried
Additional options I have not tried personally:
paid - old
Screen-O-Matic - need to pay - old
final Sociology presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRbcmuiRb0Q
Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY62My_ZNRy2f620Uu1IuGQ
Food Insecurity in Los Angeles (Links to an external site.) Food Insecurity in Los Angeles
Questions:
Is food insecurity a major issue in your city? How bad is the problem?
What are some of your possible solutions to food insecurity?
References: https://ibb.co/bPcDCBP
FREE PROGRAMS How to record a presentation - free programs
In Module 4 you will prepare and share a recorded version of the presentation or policy brief that you created in Capstone 2. Then you will participate in an online "conference" in which you view at least 2 of your peers presentations and comment on them.
The link for posting will be available in Module 4 as well as the Discussion tab in the main menu.
Please DO NOT WAIT until the due date to record and post your presentation. SEVERAL students in the past have reported that it has taken their computer hours to covert and upload videos. Be prepared for this to happen to you too and get it done before the due date.
I also strongly discourage students from attempting to record audio on individual slides in PowerPoint at all. MANY students have had issues with this process and the software will not execute this process on Apple computers. The wheel will just spin for hours on end. If you record on individual slides and then try to use the software listed below to screencast the audio is often very poor. Use PowerPoint only as your visual guide and record your audio using different software.
In the document below you will find more detailed instructions on how to complete this process as well as a grading rubric.
word document google doc
Capstone 3 Course Presentation
Instructions and Grading Rubric
As part of Capstone 3, students share their capstone 2 research/presentations with their peers by participating in an “online conference” in the Capstone 3 course. Each student completes the conference during the session in which he/she is registered for capstone 3.
Below are steps/guidelines for completing this presentation assignment. Each of the items below must be completed by posted deadlines:
-
Update your presentation or policy brief using the feedback you received in Capstone 2. You can access this in your Capstone 2 course.
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Review and implement Design Guidelines below
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Rehearse your presentation!
-
Decide how you are going to record your presentation.
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Camtasia Trial
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iSpring Free Cam 8
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Additional options I have not tried personally: https://elearningindustry.com/free-screencast-software-create-high-quality-videos
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Free versions of these softwares may have watermarks on them. As long as it does not completely block out the content of your slides, it is fine.
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Record your presentation and convert it to a movie file.
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The presentation must be 9-10 minutes long and related to your capstone 2 paper topic and include citations and references.
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Presentations longer than 25 minutes will be deducted points. Be concise!
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Be sure to practice your presentation several times before recording in an environment free of background noise.
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Resources are available in the course as well as the Blackboard Masters Program Organization > About Capstone Courses > Capstone 2/3 Presentation > “Recording Presentation Tips for resources” to help you with this process.
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Decide where you will post your presentation for sharing. Some options include:
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Youtube
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Vimeo
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Google Drive
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You will not be able to attach your presentation to your discussion board post. You need to provide a link to it.
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Make sure your link is public so that your peers can view it. Consider testing it on a different computer/browser than the one you uploaded it in before posting on the DB to make sure it works. Not adjusting the privacy settings is a common mistake that can prevent others from viewing it.
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Participate in the conference:
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Introduce your topic in your discussion post and be sure to include at least 2 thought provoking discussion questions/prompts for your peers to answer.
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Watch and respond to 2 of your classmates' presentations. Responses should be at least 100 words in length and be substantive and thoughtful.
**Note that “substantive” and “thoughtful” means the question must relate to the content of the presentation. Questions/comments such as “great presentation!” or “how did you create the presentation?” or “I like the colors you used in your presentation” do not count. 100 word minimum for all posts.**
Design GuidelinesQuick tips:-
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Vinnytsia (Ukrainian: Ві́нниця Russian: Ви́нница)
"Winniza" "Vinnitsa"
Small Town Espionage
Small Town Espionage. (MPEG2). (Langley, VA.: Central Intelligence Agency, 1960.) (Downloaded from the National Archives and Records Administration).
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Monday April 13, 1959.
Stockholm, Sweden - UPI - The big, shining American automobile drew up outside the "Texas Bar". A tall man in an ivy league suit got out and sauntered in to the dimly lit saloon.
"A sweet martini," he ordered.
"Nyet," snarled the barman.' "No American would drink a sweet martini. Now start all over again."
"Well, how about a Scotch on the rocks?"
Maj. Per Lindgren writing in I the Swedish military journal; "Contact With the Armed Forces." says this is the sort of thing' that happens every day in the; "typically American" town of Winniza, USSR.
30,000 Inhabitants
For Winniza, Lindgren says, is Russia’s top school for Soviet spies scheduled for assignment in the United States.
Russian spy training in Winniza. a tightly guarded town of 30.000 inhabitants in the central Ukraine, is the most efficient m the world.' Lindgren says "Nobody graduates until they are completely Indoctrinated into the American way of life," he said. Some of them spend up to 13 years there before their big chance comes." ,
According to Lindgren;
- About 1,000 students from Russian universities are sent there ever year. The town is surrounded by barbed wire. Guards patrol the boundaries and "ordinary" Russians are not allowed entry.
- All cars are American made. Bars and drugstores abound, jukeboxes blare out American jazz and rock & roll at all hours. Glamor girls put on burlesque shows.
- Instructors act as barmen, waiters, hotel receptionists and shop hands. Every mistake is corrected on the spot. Every kind of American accent is taught. History strictly from the American angle, is pumped into the students.
- They learn how to make telephone calls, how to order theater tickets in Boston, how to talk authoritatively on baseball. There is a special course on Hollywood with special emphasis on the seamier side of life there.
- Students have to put themselves m the place of middle class Americans defending United States foreign policy.
- They're [taught] ... to drive under American regulations - and how to react if pulled up by a traffic officer. Chewing gum machines adorn the sidewalks. The movie theaters show only American pictures. Poker is the only card game allowed.
Sources Not Revealed
Lindgren did not disclose his sources for the article, but he I said. ‘Allied counterespionage is well aware of Winniza's existence "
He added that the Allies also* knew about the Russian school 'for female spies at Marienburg, in Saxony, East Germany.
He said the Marienburg center was camouflaged as a dancing and gymnastic school and the "girls who graduate from there go to work mainly in West Germany where American military personnel are stationed.*'
They are the best looking women available, perfectly trained in everything from make-up to swearing in "Americancse" Lindgren said their most important course was "the art of seduction." but they also learn to dance the newest Americans and Latin steps.
Lindgren said Marienburg's best known graduate was beautiful Irmgardt. She got five years in jail in 1950 for trying to get secrets from an American member of the Berlin espionage bureau.
Rus Spy Center is Copy of U.S. Town
April 13, 1959
STOCKHOLM (AP) — The Russians are training more than 1,000 top students for spying In America at a center in the Ukraine constructed as an exact copy of a small American town, a Swedish army Journal said yesterday.
The Journal — called "Contact with the Army" said the students In the Soviet spy center of Winniza live the life of an average American student. They have their meals In snack bars or restaurants which could as well have been situated in New York, Chicago or San Francisco. The menu lists only American dishes.
The account gave these details:
The motion picture theaters in Winniza show only Hollywood movies and the stories sell only U. S. made articles. The students drive Fords or Chevrolets by U. S. traffic rules. They study the history of the US. in original American school books and they talk about baseball and the latest scandals.
The first stage in the training Is devoted entirely to studies of American dialects which they must be able to speak perfectly.
"The only genuine thing in this American city in the Ukraine is the high barbed wire fence that surrounds it," the army journal said.
"The pupils In this spy school are hand picked from the best students In Soviet universities. Western Intelligence services estimate the number of students at Winniza at between 1.000 and 1,300."
The training goes on for years, "in some cases even 10 years.*' "Then, when these agents go to the States—either in a legal way as diplomats or In other ways— they are ready at once to fill their mission."
Time Magazine: Iowa in the Ukraine
Monday, Apr. 27, 1959
Fords and Chevrolets honk under a movie marquee advertising a western.Blue notes from a cocktail lounge mingle with the blare of bebop from a drugstore jukebox. "A hamburger and a Coke," says the man in a Tennessee drawl, scuttling onto a lunch-counter stool. It might be Tupelo or Tuxedo Junction—but it is actually Vinnitsa in the Ukraine. The existence of a top-secret finishing school for Soviet spies, made in an exact copy of a small American town, has long been a fantasy of fiction writers, but has also been taken quite seriously as a possibility by U.S. counterintelligenee.
Last week, in the Swedish military journal Contact with the Army,Swedish Major Per Lindgren, a man well regarded as a Soviet analyst,pieced together the available evidence about Vinnitsa. Hand-picked from the most promising Russian university students, the 1,000 "citizens" of Vinnitsa, he reports, lead American lives from morning to night for as long as ten years. They master American dialects,learn American history from U.S. textbooks, gossip about American movie stars, and swap hot-stove-league baseball statistics.
"Everything in Vinnitsa down to the smallest detail is pure American."says Major Lindgren. "The bar serves American drinks, and the restaurant American food. The movies are Hollywood-made, and the stores sell everything from ready-made clothing to chewing gum." The only authentic Communist touch is the high, barbed-wire fence that seals Vinnitsa off from the rest of Russia.
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News of the World With Morgan Beatty, NBC, October 6, 1960.
BEATTY. This is Morgan Beatty bringing you News of the World.
Tonight, in the headlines. The big story.
Two American tourists have uncovered Russia's deepest espionage secret.
Last free word from Vannitsa the secret city within a city.
It's a model American town to train cadres for Americans espionage or takeover.
Russians refuse any word on the vanished men.
...
And the news tonight, exclusive with News of the World, begins with the most fantastic spy story on record, all about the model American town operated by the Russian Soviet espionage system. Two American tourists have uncovered Russia's deepest espionage secret.
The men's names are Harvey C. Bennett of Bath, Maine, age 26, postgraduate student, who has been trying to make up his mind whether to become a teacher of the Russian language or a Foreign Service officer.
The other man is Mark Kaminsky, same age. who was to have started teaching, presumably the Russian language because he knows it well, at Purdue University this fall. On his application to visit Russia, Bennett reported he was going for education: Kaminsky, that he wanted to study and visit relatives.
Now, the exclusive part of the story--and an answer to how these young chaps might have run afoul of suspicious Russian police, could well be the men didn’t even know what was going on.
For years intelligence agents have been hearing about a town within a city in Soviet Russia, in the Ukraine, and I have touched on it before now. The barbed wire and high fence hides a complete model American town and it’s reported to be the city of Vinnitsa. The last word from these men before they got into trouble came from Vinnitsa, the town with the high board fence, and a deep Soviet secret. Bennett wrote Mrs. Bennett that they had had car trouble but would soon cross the border westward. The next word from the men came from other American tourists early in September. Kaminsky was at a border station. He told an American acquaintance that he was in trouble. Since then, nothing. And the Russians won’t say anything except that they have no information and when they got, it they will give it to the American Embassy.
The Russian anxiety to accuse Americans of spying has obviously caught them on a rough international wicket. They may well have two innocent Americans who unwittingly have exposed the Russian plans for the long-distance future to take over the United States. And that would never do.
Let me explain.
The model American city has long been suspected, as we have said, but nothing came to public light about it until a highly respected Swedish Army officer, Maj. Per Lindgren, set himself to the task of separating fact from fiction. He doesn’t tell how he did it. But in an article in the Swedish military journal named “Contact With the Army,” the Major made an exposure that startled all intelligence agencies because it indicated the Russians had plans for taking over major countries of the world. And one of their plans, called the American plan, centered in Vinnitsa.
The Major pieced together various intelligence reports, came up with this statement, “Everything in the town within Vinnitsa is pure American. The bar serves American drinks, the restaurant, American food. The movies are Hollywood made and the stores sell everything from ready made clothes to chewing gum. Fords and Chevrolets drive through the streets. Blue jazz notes blare from the cocktail lounge, mingle with the blare of jukebox bee-bop in the drug store. Ana all the dialects of the United States are spoken by the young Russians who inhabit this town within a town. The order, a hamburger with a coke, is as familiar as it is in Waterloo, Iowa, or McKeesport, Pa.
Major Lindgren reported that the town has 1,000 inhabitants, all in training to know everything American intimately so they may be used for spies or for the cadres who ultimately might take over our country. The courses in Vinnitsa’s classrooms—some of them are 10-year courses. All the students are handpicked Russian university students, with a special mission.
Could it be the boys in the car touring Russia unwittingly stumbled onto the secret of Vinnitsa, or even took pictures, or were suspected of taking pictures. Certainly no Russian can be found who will tell the truth.
And maybe this explains a little conversation in New York between Nikita Khrushchov and NBC’s Joe Michaels, who has served for several years in Russia. Khrushchev was holding forth great length to American reporters in Park Avenue about how free people were in Russia and how Americans could come any time and have the run of the country.
Michaels remembered the reports about the two American tourists. He spoke up. But what about the American tourists who were arrested for taking pictures! Khrushchev turned on Joe Michaels and said, “You are an evil man. I will not answer any more of your questions.”
That’s the story. Back in a moment, with the way the Little Khrushchev of Cuba does business and more News of the World. (Break.)
News of the World with Morgan Beatty, NBC, October 20, 1960
NEWS OF THE WORLD WITH MORGAN BEATTY, NBC, OCTOBER 20, I960
BEATTY. This is Morgan Beatty bringing you News of the World.
Tonight in the headlines:
The big story: The case of Mr. Khrushchev and the two American tourists.
Nikita escapes the charge of preparation for war on his borders— expedient, confiscating the pictures of Mark Kaminsky.
And after they are free to tell the truth he loads the world with his lies and cites Cuba as the star in his crown and the gold traders of Europe help him with his case.
...
Those are the headlines. In a moment the news. (Break.)
And the news tonight is the curious pose of the Soviet dictator, Nikita Khrushchev, before the world.
And the case of two young Americans who returned home after one of the most mysterious spy trials in all history.
Mr. Khrushchev’s pose was the same as ever except that he combined saber rattling and peaceful coexistence by claiming—and the U.S. Navy agrees with him—that the Russians have atomic sub¬marines. Khrushchev said not how many. The Navy says three. We have 20, going on 30.
But here is the stance of the Soviet leader in his homecoming speech. An old stance in new words. First, the Communist countries have unheard of means of exerting influence on the capitalist countries and even of compelling them to disarm.
And point 2. Again disagreeing with his Red Chinese pals. A nuclear war would be unthinkable. Nations will not perish in such an adventurous war. And only adventurers can think that a change in the social system can be achieved by unleashing a war among the states.
Now what can the man mean rattling rockets and preaching against nuclear war at the same time. We must look at the hard fact. The man stands by his demand for a veto in the Security Council of the United Nations, and another and paralyzing veto to prevent the United Nations from intervening in a chaotic situation.
As we say in geometry, we now look for that which was to be proved, Q.E.D.
I submit tonight that a symbol of that proof is the arrival in the United States or two young American tourists by the name of Mark Kaminsky, the Michigan schoolteacher, and his friend, Harvey C. Bennett, a man about to make up his mind to become a Foreign Service officer with the State Department.
We have already told you how these young men were arrested after passing through Vinnitsa, the American model town in the Ukraine. How they admitted they took pictures for a book Kaminsky was writing for an American foundation. The Soviets carefully put them on trial, sentenced Kaminskv to 7 years for spying, then suddenly turned him loose. They reported Bennett had turned state’s evidence them on trial, sentenced Kaminsky to 7 years for spying, then suddenly turned him loose. They reported Bennett had turned state’s evidence and denounced Kaminsky.
Well they arrived home today. Kaminsky denied he was a CIA agent. He admitted he was taking pictures that would have shown the preparations for war on the Soviet borders facing west where the West has openly charged the Soviets keep 75 divisions at the ready. He indicated there are far more soldiers and military installa¬tions in the border zone, than there are civilians and farms and towns. Yes; he took the pictures and Bennett agreed he took the pictures.
Now here’s the Q.E.D. The Soviets held these men long enough and searched their car thoroughly enough to be sure they had not made away with any of their pictures. But did they hold a great spy trial in full view of klieg lights loaded with Western reporters to tell all the details of the evidence? They did not. Neither did they hold the two men and impose on them cruel and unusual punish- ment.
No, you see Mr. Khrushchev was about to pose as a great giver of peace to the world, a man with those upturned clean hands and his obviously pure heart. How could he anord to put two men on the stand before the world who could prove by their testimony, that Mr. Khrushchev was a liar. How could he hold them indefinitely with¬out inviting the charge by the United States, that our Ambassador could not even see these two men who had wandered through the thickets of guns and launching pads and soldiers in uniform. He could not. He took the only way out and turned them loose. They can now tell their story. But they can’t prove it.
Meanwhile he counts on depression or panic. Note the gold buy¬ing in London and confusion—the Congo—and his great star of Latin America to carry his case forward that there’s a new world out there and it’s all his with every man and woman a robot of Com¬munist discipline. Of course he won’t state it that way but well there’s the Cuban story. Back with that and more News of the World. (Break.)
Per Lindgren
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Some noteworthy was the information on the city from the Swedish Major Per Lindgren was otherwise a very reliable source. Major Lindgren (1901-1979) had during World War II served in the Defense Intelligence Division and in recent years the author of several books on espionage and sabotage. As an expert, he assisted Carl Olof Bernardsson when he wrote the classic book Spy police go in (1952) and at the end of his career he wrote together with Bertil Häggman book Industrial Espionage in Sweden and abroad (1975). Overall, he came to write dozens own books in the field. Hägg Lindgren's book Industrial Espionage in Sweden and abroad is available on Google Books. The book is reviewed in including Norrköpings Tidningar ( "When the spy adds puzzle") on 26 November 1975, the Helsingborgs Dagblad December 2, 1975 ( "Overlooked espionage"). "Evening Post has met Sweden's most spy hunter" was published in Malmö newspaper the Evening Post November 30, 1975. Business Economics published in No. 12/1975 review "Warning for industrial spies." |
Lite anmärkningsvärt kom uppgifterna om staden från den svenska majoren Per Lindgren som annars var en mycket pålitlig källa. Major Lindgren (1901-1979) hade under andra världskriget tjänstgjort inom försvarsstabens underrättelseavdelning och på senare år författat åtskilliga böcker om spionage och sabotage. Som sakkunnig bistod han Carl Olof Bernardsson när han skrev den klassiska boken Spionpolisen går på jakt (1952) och i slutet av karriären skrev han tillsammans med Bertil Häggman boken Industrispionage i Sverige och i utlandet (1975). Totalt kom han att författa ett dussintal egna böcker inom ämnesområdet.
Lindgren-Häggmans bok Industrispionage i Sverige och i utlandet finns tillgänglig på Google Books. Boken finns recenserad i bland annat Norrköpings Tidningar (“När spionen lägger pussel”), den 26 november 1975 och i Helsingborgs Dagblad den 2 december 1975 (“Förbisett spionage”). “Kvällsposten har träffat Sveriges mesta spionjägare” publicerades i Malmötidningen Kvällsposten den 30 november 1975. Affärsekonomi publicerade i nr 12/1975 recensionen “Varning för industrispioner”. |
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- ..."Received a request from Jay Sourwine on behalf of one of his Senators for an English translation of the Per Lindgren article on spy schools operating in the Soviet Union, referenced in the WASHINGTON POST of 20 April at page A-12."
- Advised Mr. Jay Sourwine that the newspaper carrying the Per Lindgren article has not yet arrived in this country, but upon arrival will be translated and a copy furnished to him.[4]
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- 7.167 how to burn a disk
- 7.168 HP INK TANK WIRELESS
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- 7.330 HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
- 7.331 SSL certificate
- 7.332 Recording voice "on the fly"
- 7.333 To sort
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- 7.361 Random Essayage
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- 7.366 Oh, and something you may like of mine
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Wikipedia
"Wikipedia is a kind of truly collaborative and social platform [which] provides a good opportunity for sociologist...to better understand the evolution of social cognition - that is, the ability of a group of people to remember, think, and reason." -- Social Knowledge Dynamics: A Case Study on Modeling Wikipedia Benyun Shi doi=10.1.1.590.7210 https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.590.7210&rep=rep1&type=pdf
"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society" -- Jiddu Krishnamurti
Quote:
The temptation to edit war or throw bane accusations at times is so great. How dare another editor revert my edits or dare to contradict me? The chakras are disturbed, the body seething in anger. Such are the animal impulses of human nature that need to be under control. Let patience, diplomacy, cool reasoning, and proper process win the day. Thinker78 (talk)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nightenbelle&diff=prev&oldid=1114711847 "conspiracy theorist"
- Wow, personal attacks from an established editor. One thing I can advise you about User:Jasonkwe, if you are established editor with a certain point of view (POV) personal attacks are ignored :)
- Nightenbelle, what part of my edits to say, Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade, thus far are "Not here to build an encyclopedia". WP:NOTHERE
- Just because my facts doesn't match yours, does not make me a "conspiracy theorist". I mentioned the The Shock Doctrine - (watch the movie here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3B5qt6gsxY&t=703s ) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1114577910 It is painful to watch the first 9/11 in 1973 ( 1973 Chilean coup d'état ) but realizing you have a problem is the first step toward recovery, (and reconciliation). The Germans and Japan did it after World War 2, the USSR did in 1991, and I hope soon the US does too.
- By all statistical measures which no one can dispute, the United States is internationally the most violent country in the world today. With 800 military bases, proxy wars in a variety of countries, only 17 years in its entire history where it was not at war, the successful genocide of the Native American (which Hitler studied), and a military industrial complex that spends more money then the top 10 countries combined. If you support this country, what does it make you User:Nightenbelle?
- I understand, it is hard to accept facts that do not build upon your own worldview, in fact it is actually physcially painful. It has been for me. Adam Ruins Everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8NydsXl32s It is much easier, but much more intellectually indolent, to just dismiss someone elses facts as garbage. :)
- I have "ranted" enough, cause that is what you will call it.... :) Have a great weekend Jasonkwe and Nightenbelle. Cheers
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If there is continued threats by this editor, first open up a Wikipedia:Mediation on the talk page. Add {{template:NPOV}} to the page and discuss it on the talk page.
Check his edit history, which is full of edit warring, Wikipedia:Ownership of content and Wikipedia:Content authoritarianism and a lack of WP:AGF.
If he continues to WP:Bully report him to WP:ANI.
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Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade
Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion
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DATABASE OF AUTHORS AND PUBLISHERS WHO APPROVED QUOTES ON WIKIPEDIA?
Hello, is there currently a database of authors and publishers who approve quotes on Wikipedia? If not, can it be created?
== AUTHOR PERMISSION to use content on wikipedia ==
adamhochschild AT earthlink dot net wrote:
If the excerpt is a fairly short one, not more than a paragraph or two, and is properly credited to my book, it’s fine with me if you quote it on Wikipedia.
All the best, Adam Hochschild
May1787 (talk) 05:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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Oligarchy and MSNBC
MSNBC is a mouthpiece of the United States Government, just as CNN, Fox News, New York Times, Washington Post, etc. MSNBC is just worse at it then the other two. The link between private and public institutions is used as plausible deniability. Scientifically, the United States of America is an oligarchy, according to Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B "The preferences of rich people had a much bigger impact on subsequent policy decisions than the views of middle-income and poor Americans. Indeed, the opinions of lower-income groups, and the interest groups that represent them, appear to have little or no independent impact on policy." https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy When the average member of the collective west thinks "oligarchy" they think "Russia", which, scientifically is true because the United States created Russia in the 1991 using Disaster Capitalism first brandished on the first September 11, 1973, with the 1973 Chilean coup d'état.
May1787 (talk) 06:13, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oligarchy issue aside, your Russia comment is nuts. Doug Weller talk 07:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
MSNBC Talk page & DRN
25px Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contribution(s). I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, while user talk pages permit a small degree of generali{{#switch:{{{sp}}}|us=z|uk=s|#default=s}}ation, other talk pages are strictly for discussing the topic of their associated main pages and many of them have special instructions on the top. They are not a general discussion forum about unrelated topics. If you have questions or ideas and are not sure where to post them, consider asking at the Teahouse. Thanks. Nightenbelle (talk) 15:18, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks i replied on your talk page.
- The backfire effect. has been proven wrong. May1787 (talk) 02:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Duran
Please note that disambiguation pages like Duran are meant to help readers find a specific existing article quickly and easily. For that reason, they have guidelines that are different from articles. From the Wikipedia:Disambiguation dos and don'ts you should:
- Only list articles that readers might reasonably be looking for
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Thank you. Leschnei (talk) 23:24, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
25px Hello, May1787. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Adam Hochschild, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: U | now}} - 1665193981) < 13150000 | | }} Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Nope no conflict of interest. But thanks for the heads up. May1787 (talk) 02:18, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Ivory messagebox {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Article rescue squadron/Tabbed header|This=1}} {{Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Header}}
Welcome to WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron (ARS). Sometimes Wikipedia articles about notable topics exist in poor form, badly written, unsourced Template:Ndash but that is not sufficient in itself to remove them from the encyclopedia at Articles for Deletion. If an article is about an encyclopedic topic that has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, the article may simply need improvement.
A significant aspect of this project's focus is on articles that may be written in poor form, lack references or need improvement, yet are backed by reliable sources and are therefore likely worthy of a Wikipedia stand-alone article per Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Some writer may have worked hard on that article. Some reader can use that article. In reaching out to work with such writers and readers, the project can help to preserve worthwhile content in the encyclopedia.
The project works toward improving Wikipedia as a whole by cooperating together to improve deficient articles through editing to provide necessary sources, correcting inappropriate style or tone, cleaning up grammatical and layout problems, etcetera, with the overall goal of improving the encyclopedia.
Template:Article Rescue Squadron Code of Conduct
Scope Scope
Template:Shortcut Wikiproject Article rescue squadron's main focus is on Wikipedia articles that are perceived as actually being notable that are going through Articles for deletion (AfD), which may:
- Need references
- Be written poorly
- Lack information readily available
- Need cleaning up.
We also help rescue content in Wikipedia's main namespace (refer to Wikipedia: Namespace for more information) and other Daily deletion debates (XfD) processes, such as Miscellany for deletion (MfD) and Templates for discussion (TfD). See Articles & content for an overview.
ARS members may also be interested in rescuing articles listed at Wikipedia: Listing of possible copyright problems. These articles often cover notable topics. Evaluating the extent of such problems can be difficult, but thoroughly rewriting articles with problems identified as foundational has the additional benefit of helping WikiProject Copyright Cleanup.
Rescue list
A list of content for rescue consideration is located at this project's content rescue list.
28px How to contribute
The Article Rescue Squadron WikiProject is about editing and improving articles. ARS is no different from any of the hundreds of Wikiprojects in that we collaborate to improve Wikipedia. If everyone who cares about preserving important topics and removing unsuitable content reads one deletion discussion per day (or even one per week), the impact will benefit all of our readers. Moreover, reading through an article nominated for deletion and adding sources and rewriting the text to remove or reword unsuitable content can help other editors decide if the article should be kept or deleted.
Does ARS want to keep everything?
No. The project is not about making policy to ensure that nothing is deleted or casting keep votes in AfD discussions. The project ensures that articles that can be written to follow Wikipedia policies do not get deleted when they can be rescued through normal editing, which per WP:AFD means that it was not a good candidate for deletion. The Template:Tl and Template:Tl templates are sometimes all that's required for a rescue.
Wikipedia:Articles for DeletionTemplate:Spaced ndashwhy it's important to view
Every time an article is deleted the contributions that were made to it are lost, and then only Wikipedia administrators can access it, but they are not necessarily experts on the article's topic. After deletion, an article's content, value, and appropriateness can no longer be evaluated by the general public. In addition, the contributor who writes a poor article on a notable topic is likely to be inexperienced. If their first efforts are deleted, they may be discouraged and refrain from creating further articles, or even editing. Everyone starts somewhere, and we should encourage better writing and better articles. Good faith efforts to contribute should be met with encouragement to improve.
This makes Articles for Deletion (AfD) a very important place; one that deserves everyone's attention.
A common axiom is that "AFD is not cleanup". Wikipedia is a work in progress, and articles should not be deleted because no one has felt like cleaning them up yet. Remember, Wikipedia has no deadline. If there's good, sourceable content in the article, it should be preserved, developed and improved, not deleted. The Wikipedia policy of trying to correct problems in articles through editing improvements, expansion and adding reliable sources, located at Try to fix problems, is often more appropriate than the entire deletion of articles.
The question on whether a poor but improvable article ought to be deleted is a major point of contention, and has given rise to the wiki-philosophies immediatism and eventualism. The Article Rescue Squadron was highlighted in a July 2007 Wikipedia Signpost, and has grown with many processes to tag, track, and list tagged articles.
Articles proposed for deletion (prod)
Sometimes articles are proposed for deletion (prod, prodded) without being sent to AfD, some of which are notable per Wikipedia's General notability guideline.
- Refer to Category: Proposed deletion and Category: All articles proposed for deletion to browse these articles.
- You may wish to consider joining WP:PRODPATROL.
Rescuing drafts
Many new articles come to Wikipedia via the Articles for creation (AfC) process. Reviewers assess these contributions and either accept, decline or reject them. Declined drafts on notable subjects may be improved by the authors and resubmitted. In many cases, however, this does not happen and the drafts are essentially abandoned. Abandoned drafts are subject to deletion under WP:G13 after 6 months of inactivity. Since all this occurs in Draft: space and typically involves new editors, these deletions are largely invisible to the editing community.
You can help by reviewing drafts that will soon become eligible for deletion and improving them and submitting them for rereview at AfC.
- Drafts becoming eligible for G13 in a week from now
- Submissions that an editor feels may be able to be saved
- Quality submissions that an editor feels may be able to be saved
- All declined submissions - includes subcategories for various decline reasons
Tips to help rescue articles
- See also: ARS Guide to saving articles
- Familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's guidelines for topic notability and identifying reliable sources
- Read Wikipedia's Editing policy, including the policy What Wikipedia is not.
- Discuss issues regarding an individual article on that article's talk page, not on this project's talk page.
- Suggest an article nominated for deletion that you feel meets notability guidelines, or should be retained for other reasons, on this project's article rescue list page, for ARS consideration.
- Browse Articles for Deletion periodically, and consider improving articles that you feel meet notability guidelines.
- Read Wikipedia:Guide to deletion for more tips.
Source searches
In addition to below, placing Template:Tl at the top of a Talk page now includes the "Find Sources".
Template:Col-begin Template:Col-break
Article Rescue checklist
Here's a quick checklist of 10 steps anyone can take for articles that need rescue:
- Find and add reliable sourcesTemplate:Spaced ndashIt is most important that sources demonstrating the notability of a subject are added to articles when they are found. Do it properly, using the correct citation templates.
- Add WikiProjectsTemplate:Spaced ndashView article talk pages to see if appropriate WikiProject banners have been added (this list of banners maybe be easier to browse). WikiProject banners help draw attention to articles from editors who are interested in the subject, especially if the project subscribes to Article Alerts. You don't need anyone's permission to add relevant WikiProject banners to article talk pages.
- Solicit WikiProject inputTemplate:Spaced ndashMany articles needing rescue merely need attention from an expert on the subject. A short note on a WikiProject talk page seeking expert attention can bring remarkable results fast.
- Take the time to strengthen the Lead sectionTemplate:Spaced ndashThe lead sets the tone for the rest of an article. Take the time to rewrite or improve the lead so that an article's title and its contents are in sync. Nothing detracts more from an otherwise notable subject than a lead that inadequately conveys what an article is about.
- Clean-up articlesTemplate:Spaced ndashIf an article about an otherwise notable subject has a bunch of unorganized content on the page, it is best to clean it up on the spot and bring it up to par with the Manual of Style guidelines. Some examples of clean-up include copy editing, wikifying (adding internal links, interwiki links and external links), correcting spelling, grammar and typographical errors, converting poorly formatted references with proper citation templates and adding relevant sections.
- Add Infoboxes, Navigation Templates and sidebarsTemplate:Spaced ndashIf they are not present in articles and their addition is appropriate, do so and complete their fields as much as possible.
- De-orphan articlesTemplate:Spaced ndashLink and cross-reference articles with other articles, lists and categories. Make sure articles have internal links that link to other appropriate, highly related articles, which helps to clarify and expound upon information. If it is difficult to incorporate links within the text of an article, the See also section is an appropriate place to list links for related articles. Look for sources and content in related articles that might enhance orphaned articles. Utilizing the "What links here" feature in the Toolbox pull-down menu in the left column of Wikipedia pages provides a list of pages that link to an article.
- Eliminate the junkTemplate:Spaced ndashIf there is unsourced or irrelevant content, copyright violations, or other "junk" in articles, eliminate it ruthlessly. If there is a question about the validity of content, start a discussion on the talk page and tag questionable content with template messages as necessary. Don't just ignore the "junk" if its there. Conversely, it's very important to preserve appropriate content Template:Ndash as long as any of the facts or ideas added to an article would belong in a "finished" article. For more information, please refer to Try to fix problems.
- Treat articles as if they were your best achievementsTemplate:Spaced ndashMake changes to articles that will turn them into articles that you would be proud of personally. We know how to do it, we just need to do it.
- Positively engage new editorsTemplate:Spaced ndashWhen you find that an article has been created by a new editor (maybe their first one) or by inexperienced editors, engage them in a positive, mentoring way. Help them learn how to create and contribute better content. Engage them on their talk pages, encourage them, and most importantly make them feel welcome. If there are policy or guideline issues on the table, don't just refer them to a policy link; engage them in a discussion to ensure they better understand how to make quality contributions. Make sure the editor knows that merging and userfication are alternatives to deletion. Even if an article is ultimately lost, this positive engagement will help us all by encouraging new contributors to make useful, productive edits.
Books Articles and content
Articles
- For current articles nominated for deletion, see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/{{#time:Y F j}}|Today's AfD log]] (from Wikipedia: Articles for deletion).
- For a list of all deletion debates opened on a daily basis, see XfD today
- For a list of deletion discussion pages, see Deletion process
- For a search engine to find deletion discussions by topic, see Search all deletion discussions.
- For a general guide to creating articles, see Wikipedia: Your first article.
Articles currently tagged for deletion
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Articles currently proposed for deletion
- Category: Proposed deletion and Category: All articles proposed for deletion
- See also: Articles for deletion/Old/Open AfDsTemplate:Spaced ndashArticles for deletion discussions that have finished their discussion period and are eligible to be closed following the deletion process.
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Biographies of living persons
- Article Rescue Squadron – Biographies of living persons
- [[Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/BLP volunteers|Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashBLP rescue volunteers]]
Many articles have been deleted as Biographies that had been flagged for years as unsourced. The administrators who deleted them have stated that the restoration of these articles is acceptable, provided that any restored articles are then properly sourced and made fully compliant with WP:BLP (Biographies of living persons). For some background information, see here. BLP articles that are properly sourced will simply be restored, along with their talk pages.
To volunteer to reference one or more of the articles that have recently been deleted as unreferenced BLPs, see ARS BLP volunteers.
Article restoration
- Further information: Viewing and restoring deleted pages
Article userfication
- See also: Userfication essay
- Requests for undeletionTemplate:Spaced ndashIf an article has already been deleted but you intend to improve it, you can request that it be moved into your user namespace at Requests for undeletion. Another option is to ask any of the administrators on this list who will userfy articles for editors.
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Articles with topics of unclear notability
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Content
Files for discussion
- Files for discussionTemplate:Spaced ndashFiles for discussion (FfD) is for the discussion of images and other media files (such as audio and video files) that are being considered for deletion. Files that have been listed at FfD for more than 7 days are eligible for deletion if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to deletion have been raised.
Categories for discussion
- Categories for discussionTemplate:Spaced ndashCategories for discussion (Cfd) is where deletion, merging, and renaming of categories is discussed. Categories that have been listed for more than seven days are eligible for deletion, renaming or merging when a rough consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to the nomination have been raised.
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Templates for discussion
- Templates for discussionTemplate:Spaced ndashOn this page, deletion or merging of templates is discussed. Stub templates are not covered here, and are discussed at Wikipedia: Stub types for deletion.
Redirects for discussion
- Redirects for discussionTemplate:Spaced ndashRedirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where problematic redirects are discussed.
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Miscellany for deletion
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Search all deletion discussions
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Article alerts
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Selected previous rescues
- See a selected list of previous rescues at Wikipedia: Article Rescue Squadron/Hall of Fame.
- See Current articles subpage and Current articles (2009) for listings of resolved rescues and ARS collaborations from 2009.
Examples
2 people Participants
To join, simply add your name to our membership list; feel free to add your ideas to the project discussion page as well.
User boxes
Rescued articles
ARS user page boxes:
Template:User Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashThere's an automatically-generated list of members using this banner here.
Template:User WikiProject Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashThere's an automatically-generated list of members using this banner here.
Once you've rescued an article or two, show your Rescue Squadron pride with
- {{User:Jclemens/Rescues|n}}
(where n is the number of articles you've helped rescue)
User:Jclemens/RescuesTemplate:Spaced ndashThere's an automatically-generated list of members using this banner here.
- {{WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron/Userbox|n}}
Template:WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron/UserboxThere's an automatically-generated list of members using this banner here.
Rescued article — then to FA or GA
Have you helped take an article from Articles for deletion to Featured Article or Good Article quality ?
show your Rescue Squadron pride with
- {{User AFD to FA|n}}
(where n is the number of articles you've helped rescue and take to Featured Article quality)
Template:User AFD to FATemplate:Spaced ndashThere's an automatically-generated list of members using this banner here.
- {{User AFD to GA|n}}
(where n is the number of articles you've helped rescue and take to Good Article quality)
Template:User AFD to GATemplate:Spaced ndashThere's an automatically-generated list of members using this banner here.
WikiProject Invitation
- To invite someone:
To invite someone to join the Article Rescue Squadron, you can use our handy invite by pasting {{subst:Article Rescue Squadron invite}} to their userpage.
Barnstars
There are five specific Rescue Barnstars for anyone who has made significant contributions to rescuing articles; it is up to those awarding them to choose which one to use:
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- Hall of fame:
- [[Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Hall of Fame#Award|Wikipedia: Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashHall of Fame/Award]]
Templates
See [[Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Templates|Wikipedia: Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashTemplates]] for ARS templates.
Frequently asked questions
Reasons to retain content
- It can be discouraging for an editor to have their article deleted, especially for new and first-time contributors. An alternative is Userfication, in which articles for deletion can be placed into a user's namespace, providing an option to improve an article to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
- Instead of deleting articles altogether, sometimes they can be merged with other articles (see Mergism).
- It can be frustrating for a reader to come to Wikipedia for information and inside find that the relevant article existed at one point but has been deleted. This may discourage both Wikipedia readership and authorship.
- Deleting a well-written, well-sourced article on the basis of what Wikipedia is not can reduce the total information of Wikipedia.
See also
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- Wikipedia:Deletion to Quality Award
- Alternative outletsTemplate:Spaced ndash for potentially useful/valuable content which is not appropriate for Wikipedia.
- Articles for Deletion Patrol
- Articles for Improvement
- Deletion policy
- Deletion review
- Deletion review guide
- Guide to deletion
- Introduction to deletion process
- Wikipedia:Cite4WikiTemplate:Spaced ndash a useful tool for referencing articles
- Wikipedia Signpost: Wikipedian bloggers launch "article rescue" effort
Related projects
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- WikiProject Abandoned Articles
- WikiProject Cleanup
- WikiProject Deletion
- WikiProject Deletion sorting
- WikiProject Reliability
- WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors
- WikiProject Inclusion
- WikiProject Notability
- WikiProject Unreferenced articles
- Articles for improvement
- User:MadeYourReadThis/Article Eradication Squadron
Essays, etc.
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- Adding sources as a tactical maneuver
- All human knowledge
- Archimedes was deleted
- Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions
- Article rescue contest
- Bare notability
- Deletionism and inclusionism in Wikipedia
- Don't be an ostrich
- Don't Destroy
- Deletion review is brokenTemplate:Spaced ndash An analysis of 2007 deletion reviews
- Give an article a chance
- How to save an article proposed for deletion
- Inclusionist's Guide To Deletion Debates
- Potential, not just current state
- Society for the Preservation of the Quazer Beast
- The Heymann StandardTemplate:Spaced ndash describes the amount of work needed on a page to convince an editor to change their vote from "delete" or "neutral" to "keep" in an Articles for deletion debate.
- There is no deadline
External links
- Deletionpedia Template:Spaced ndash Access to deleted Wikipedia articles
- "Wikibin: The Recycle Bin of Wikipedia!"Template:Spaced ndash Access to deleted Wikipedia articles
- Template:In lang WikiPedia Deleted – Enzyklopädie PlusPediaTemplate:Spaced ndash Category page of deleted articles from German Wikipedia
- wmcharts – Deletions and restorations Template:Deadlink
Essays
- "In Defense Of Inclusionism" (essay)
- The Charms of Wikipedia in The New York Review of Books Template:PaywallTemplate:Spaced ndash includes information about article rescue, by Article Rescue Squadron veteran Nicholson Baker
- "The hidden Wikipedia: how to find deleted material about Nutritional Medicine: Orthomolecular Medicine News Service." Free Online Library.
- Unwanted: New articles in Wikipedia (essay)Template:Spaced ndash by Andrew Lih, USC professor and author of The Wikipedia Revolution
Wikimedia Meta-Wiki links
Meta-Wiki is the global community site for the Wikimedia Foundation's projects and related projects.
- Association of Deletionist Wikipedians
- Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians
- Association of Mergist Wikipedians
- Association of Structurist Wikipedians
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Articles
Articles currently tagged for deletion
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- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Language Creation Society (2nd nomination) Notability. Alleged WP:COI. Acerbic discussion. Counting merger discussions, a previous deletion, etc., looks closer to a 4th nomination. Sourcing was poorly done. I've fixed references and links. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:35, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
Biographies of living persons
- Wikipedia: Article Rescue Squadron - Biographies of living persons
- [[Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/BLP volunteers|Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashBLP rescue volunteers]]
Articles with topics of unclear notability
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Files for discussion
- Main page: Wikipedia: Files for discussion
Categories for discussion
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Templates for discussion
- Main page: Wikipedia: Templates for discussion
Redirects for discussion
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Stub types for deletion
- Main page: Wikipedia: Stub types for deletion
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Miscellany for deletion
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Search all deletion discussions
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Article alerts
- Main page: Wikipedia: Article alerts
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Template:Article Rescue Squadron Code of Conduct
To join ARS
To join the Article Rescue Squadron, add your name to the New Members section of the list.
Newsletter
Don't forget to add your name to the ARS newsletter recipient list to receive the ARS Newsletter!
Userbox
Feel free to place the below User box on your User page by adding the following code:
{{User Article Rescue Squadron}}
Template:User Article Rescue Squadron
All Members
New Members
To join, just add # and your name and the current date automatically by typing four tildes, like this: # ~~~~
If you'd like, you can also add a comment after your name.
Please post new entries at the top of the list.
- Radioactive (talk) 15:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Atsme 💬 📧 12:52, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Mycranthebigman (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC) Alamkan to the rescue!
- CT55555 (talk) 08:06, 6 March 2022 (UTC) to the rescue
- Super (talk) 05:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Tiredmeliorist (talk) 12:09, 18 November 2021 (UTC) Should have done this sooner
- Scorpions13256 (talk) 12:12, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- BusterD (talk) 15:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Herostratus (talk) 02:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Lightburst (talk) 18:54, 27 October 2021 (UTC) The first rule of ARS is you do not talk about ARS. The second rule is you do not talk about ARS. Since 2019 - I have been contributing. I love to do research: I am active in the navigation areas of the project, and I frequently do deletion sorting. i also start articles, my interests are varied. Lightburst (talk) 18:54, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- I found the logo on simple wiki. I then thought, I'm too lazy there, so why not do it here. Elytrian (talk) 09:29, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ken Tony Shall we discuss? 14:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Z929669 (talk) 15:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Narsk (talk) 15:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Saturn Lover! (talk) 18:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- ProudMallu (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- TigerScientist (talk) 08:05, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- — Ad Meliora Talk∕Contribs 18:40, 18 October 2020 (UTC) I am glad this community exists and happy to have found it.
- User:susheelgiri(talk) 14:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- AleatoryPonderings (talk) 03:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
- marshmir (talk) 15:24, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Em-mustapha talk 20:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Bibliof (talk) 15:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Samsmachado (talk) 04:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Bowtiesarecool06 (talk) 16:54, May 1 2020 (UTC)
- Santoshdts (talk) 20:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- AncestorHunter06 (talk)
# ~~~~
- Gilded Snail (talk) 18:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC) I've been trying to do this for a while and never realized there was a community for it. Hello!
- AbhiMukh97Speak 10:51, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- E.3 (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2019 (UTC) Often content can be very easily improved, and from my experience deletion often scares away new editors.
- Kirbanzo Kirbanzo (userpage - talk - contribs) 17:15, 18 April 2019 (UTC) I mainly tag issues that could result in articles being considered for deletion, so that they can be fixed.
- Mccull415 (talk) 18:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- econterms (talk) 22:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- airuditious (talk) 04:22, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Aurornisxui (talk) 19:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC) I just spent time in AfD, but I would rather fix articles than delete them.
- LovelyLillith (talk) 23:28, 13 December 2018 (UTC) I do this a lot, in particular for WP:Women and Women in Red.
- Shivkarandholiya12 (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Benjamin (talk) 09:53, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Philharmonic Phil --Philharmonic Phil (talk) 17:07, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Clikity (talk) 23:07, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Bbarmadillo --Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Goodtiming8871 Goodtiming8871 (talk) 03:17, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Mortee (talk) 17:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Twinky995 (talk) 01:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
- TriNitrobrick (talk)|(contribs)|(sandbox) 08:10, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
- StrayBolt (talk) 08:49, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Vpresha (talk) 14 April 2018 14:40 (UTC)
- ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 12:50, 22 March 2018 (UTC) --- I often clean up articles for readability and verifiability, so why not join the professionals?
- 8==8 Boneso (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thsmi002 (talk) 23:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen (☎)
- AmericanAir88 (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC) I am a huge Wikipedia Cleanup Guy, I am dedicated to improving Wikipedia. Lets go save articles.
- CJK09 (talk) 17:47, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
- Syrenka V (talk) 22:57, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- SomewhatSpurious (talk) 19:57, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
- Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- —usernamekiran[talk] 03:22, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Erfson (talk) 12:00, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- TopCipher (talk) 11:28, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Skamecrazy123 (talk) 10:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Edwmgs Edwmgs (talk) 05:29, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- Omni Flames
- CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 20:10, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- Inter&anthro (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- Mstomasik (talk) 07:01, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- -- Sam Sailor Talk! 18:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC) - WP:BEFORE should never be ignored
- Ras Benjih (talk) 16:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- Bfpage |leave a message 21:42, 3 September 2015 (UTC) - this is something that really needs to be done!
- Jpbrenna--Jpbrenna (talk) 05:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- AfroThundr3007730 (talk) 06:50, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hugo Stepniowski (talk) 06:10, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- SparrowHK (talk) 04:26, 17 December 2014 (UTC)SparrowHK
- CutestPenguinHangout 15:40, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- Jinkinson talk to me 12:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC) I have been doing this for a while, I'll rescue an article about almost anything.
- Montanabw(talk) 17:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC) . Been leaning toward the inclusionist realm for a long time, many AfD's often could be saved with a suitable merge, and with far less drama. Systemic bias issues also contribute to too many AfDs.
- User:Ekabhishek. Happy to be here. Was doing this already, for a few years now.. Ekabhishektalk 14:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Epicgenius (talk) 18:29, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Wuzh (talk) 12:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Z929669 (talk) 19:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- Skr15081997 (talk) 11:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC) Happy to help in article rescue work.
- Vjmlhds (talk) 05:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC) Saved 1 article already (Jeff Phelps)
- Nowthis (talk) 00:17, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
- Auric talk 11:17, 6 November 2013 (UTC) Happy to be able to legitimize what I already do.
- Balablitz (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC) Am good at retrieving informations both online and offline. Happy to help here and do the best.
- Have a nice day! Darylgolden (talk) 07:52, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- RedRobinRed (talk) 00:01, 18 July 2013 (UTC) Have used Wikipedia for years and years, have some time on my hands and want to use this as my way to contribute.
- Anne Delong (talk) 13:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC) I've been doing this already in the Afc.
- Cdtew (talk) 14:09, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- Rhonan (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- TheBlueCanoe 05:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC) Happy to help where I can
- andrewman327
- The Steve 04:33, 3 November 2012 (UTC) The first article I recall rescuing was MENS in 2004
- Faustus37 (talk) 03:09, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Rambutaan (talk) 07:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- kieranian2001Kieranian2001 (talk) 11:37, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
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- Tideflat (talk) 16:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Tito Dutta (Message) 19:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Sarah (talk) 13:47, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Mojoworker (talk) 17:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- AuthorAuthor (talk) 13:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- --В и к и T 17:30, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
- Uncle Ed
- --DThomsen8 If you cannot answer a man's arguments, all is not lost, you can still call him vile names. Elbert Hubbard (talk) 19:40, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Paffordmd72 (talk) 13:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- Juggalo1010 18:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Mr. Wikipediania Let's do this! -- Mr. Wikipediania Talk 04:36, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- ZappaOMati 22:22, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- MIVP I make attempts to save PRODs here and there so will have no problem stepping up to AfDs.
- Rajaram Sarangapani (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- PinkTruffles123 (talk) 19:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)PinkTruffles123 I would love to help you guys out.
- Crtew (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC) I have been rescuing articles about journalists and journalism.
- Jay Starz (talk) 15:41, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- BlueHenState28 (User talk:BlueHenState28) 11:50, 4 April (UTC)
- Kieran207 (talk) 20:24, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- RAJIV RV (talk) 13:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 02:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- IdeaGuy3D Autodidact in Engineering [3] Ideaguy3d (talk) 23:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
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- 2fort5r 2fort5r (talk) 04:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen (☎) Been rescuing articles for years. Saving and maintaining content, and contesting untoward proposed deletions is important for the project 09:25, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
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- @pple complain 16:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Aaron Walkhouse (talk) 19:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC) I just fell into this thing naturally by starting a rescue before I knew the Squadron existed. Now that I found it, count me in too. ;]
- Aarsalankhalid (Talk)
- AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:40, 22 August 2009 (UTC) - I added the userbox to my page a while ago but didn't notice this list until I was invited to sign. I consider myself a member and now I'm on the list.
- Agari (talk) 08:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC) - thanks for the invite, this is indeed going to be a good and useful project.
- Airplaneman talk 22:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC) I think it's time I'd join. When patrolling new pages, I often spruce up articles to make sure they don't get deleted and am happy to join the team :).
- ALLOCKE|talk 23:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC) I'm in
- Alansohn (talk) 21:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC) I had never heard about this before the current MfD, and had been doing this solo for years. What can I do to help.
- ✰ALLST?R✰ echo 07:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Andrewa Looks a very worthwhile addition to Wikiculture. See User:Andrewa/creed.
- Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 14:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC) I am one that believes a lot of articles get delted just because of poor work, something is new so notabitly is hard ot prove but not necessarily not htere, and that there is a lot of editors out there that do not care about the topic or do not research it more
- AndyJones. Count me in. 12:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- Animeronin (talk) 18:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC) Glad to be of service to the community. :)
- Ankit Maity | Talk • contribs 11:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Arbiteroftruth (talk) 04:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 09:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC) — I really hate deletions, so count me in!
- AStanhope (talk) 22:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Avanu (talk) 05:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC) (Let the bad go, and the good stay.)
- avs_dps I am totally into it! (talk)
- AWHS (talk) 10:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)What a great idea
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- Baronnet 17:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Be Bold In Edits (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC) I'm a bit brash but hopefully I can help.
- Belugaboy Talk to Me! Milk the chicken!! Articles shouldn't be deleted if they might do good, they should just be improved, even if drastic measures are taken and we have to 'Send Superior' instead of the 'town ambulance system,' which for me is another word of saying more people working more time on the project. 01:32, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- Ben Kenobi151 (talk) 22:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- BenA (talk) 16:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Benjitheijneb (talk) 02:32, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- BenRussell (talk) 20:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- Bearian (talk)
- Beth Wellington (talk) 11:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)--Nice to know where to come for help in cleaning up articles, rather than endlessly debating their failings : )
- bibliomaniac 15 BUY NOW! 05:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Bigmantonyd (talk) 05:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Quality only grows with time, predatory deletion is counterproductive
- Bilby (talk) 12:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Bleaney (talk) 23:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- BMcCJ (talk) 16:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Boracay Bill -- I've been doing this sort of stuff as a WP:Wikignome and as a WP:ICU member. Sign me up. 00:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Borgardetalk 08:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- BRG (talk) 14:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC) This is a great idea and I agree with just about everything that has been said above. Of course, please count me in!
- Brian Fenton (talk) 19:21, 16 October 2010 (UTC) Let's do it.
- brighterorange (talk) 16:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC) (admin) This is a good idea. I really hate seeing a borderline article, spending effort to fix it, and then seeing that effort wasted because of the 6 delete votes cast before I started!
- Bubbles02 (talk) 04:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC) Thought I'd join, although I have very little practice at this. But, I suppose I'll learn as I go along
- BsBsBs (talk) 04:49, 18 July 2011 (UTC) Happy to help!
- Buster7 (talk) 02:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)This ain't no party...This ain't no disco...This ain't no foolin' aroun'
- BMW (drive) 12:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC) I seem to be doing this already ...
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- Canadian (talk) 14:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Canley 11:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC) - My proudest moments on Wikipedia have been rescuing articles from the jaws of AfD with a spot of referencing and rewriting. I'd be delighted to be a part of this much-needed team.
- Captjosh (talk) 16:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC) - Love finding hard-to-find but NPV citations.
- Carcharoth 00:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cartman005 (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Catherine\talk 05:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC) - I'll help where I can.
- Cdogsimmons (talk) 06:15, 28 May 2009 (UTC) Subjective notability arguments for deletion are driving me crazy.
- Cerejota (talk) 22:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC) Had the box since forever... but got welcomed so now I sign...
- Chamal talk 13:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Chaosdruid (talk) 19:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC) DOH thought I added my name last years but obv something went wrong lol
- Ched (talk) 22:01, 21 February 2009 (UTC) Just call me the patron saint of lost causes.
- Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:54, 14 October 2011 (UTC) I seem to like doing this, so might as well do it officially...
- Christopher (talk) 16:58, 1 March 2009 (UTC) - believe this is A Good Idea on the whole, and support its aims.
- Chubbles I am ace at determining the notability of musicians and musical ensembles. I'm happy to be contacted about any problem cases.
- Citizen-of-wiki (talk) 00:57, 24 August 2009 (UTC) The deletionists are not evil people they just get a little carried away sometimes. Someone needs to provide a balance to prevent Wikipedia from being deleted off the face of the earth. "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." By Burke, Edmund in his "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents and the Two Speeches on America." [ Published 1770. Sixth Edition, Dodsley, 1784.]
- Code Hydro 05:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC) less talk about what's wrong and more time to spend on fixing, I say!
- Colonel Warden (talk) 08:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC) Template:Alternative account inline
- Cortal UXTalk? 12:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC) - I'll help where I can.
- Cricket02 Yes, good idea. Lately I'm finding articles nominated for deletion with just minutes of its creation. To me that is biting the newcomers. I'll agree there are plenty that don't belong, but there are many that need saving too. ? Cricket02 01:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
- Cyclopia (talk) 09:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC) -- I'll do what I can.
- Cynthia Shubert (unregistered) 22:39, 23 March 2009 (PDT) A noble cause; I'll help where i can.
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- DanielZimmerman (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Davewild 19:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC) - Where I can help will do so.
- dbabbitt (talk) 14:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC) might help.
- Dean B (talk) 06:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- DGG (talk) 04:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC) - The key is balance, and willingnesss to improve articles--if everyone participated in one Afd and fixed one article and found one hopeless article to delete, we could really improve WP.
- Dhartung | Talk 21:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC) This is a lot of what I do already. I vote delete on things, but many times salvageable articles are deleted just because nobody cares to try. Nominators who fail to do research first are only part of the problem.
- DickClarkMises 20:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- DiverScout (talk) 13:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
- Dipankan001 (talk) 14:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)Better to improve a article rather than deleting it is a very good policy,and I heartfully support this!
- ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 12:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC) --- I often clean up articles for readability and verifiability, so why not join the professionals?
- DragonFly31 (talk) 07:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- Dream Focus 18:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC) When reason fails, societies break apart, and civilization crumbles around them. We must strive to stop the insanity here and now, not just to put out the fires others keep starting, but to rebuild what they have destroyed, restoring what was lost to us, so that the wikipedia can once again be what it was meant to be. Wiki means "casual", it an encyclopedia where anyone can edit, and add to as they see fit, without fear of overjudgmental people picking apart every little thing they do, and trying to erase it if it isn't just perfect by their standards.
- Dreftymac. dr.ef.tymac 16:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Dromioofephesus (talk) 02:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 18:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC) It all began when one of my own articles, Bananagrams, was nominated for deletion about 8 minutes after I created it. I knew it had merit, so I saved it and made this userbox. Then I happened upon an article with a rescue tag -- I was wondering if there was something like this?
- Drrll (talk) 10:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- Dsmdgold I am especially interested in the misuse of the criteria for speedy deletion. Dsmdgold 12:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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- EagleFan (talk) 02:02, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ebikeguy (talk) 15:57, 19 October 2010 (UTC) - Primarily interested in bicycles and electric vehicles
- Eidetic Man (talk) 02:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC) User Talk me if you ever need help, i'll keep an eye out, this is a great project.
- Eldumpo (talk) 16:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the invite.
- Elm478 (talk) 06:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC) Always ready to help keep and improve the article if it is worth it
- Enric Naval (talk) 01:28, 26 January 2010 (UTC) The good work saving PRODded unsourced BLPs has convinced me to join.
- Esowteric (talk) 13:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Sometimes need to work like crazy to get a new article sorted before it's jumped on.
- evalporevalpor Evalpor (talk) 16:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
- Everyking (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC) I suppose I should at least show moral support.
- Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 09:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC) CSD patrol mostly. Forwarding or saving article's that do not really need to be removed, just rewritten or cleaned.
- |Exit2DOS2000]]•T•C• 16:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC) - Somehow I seem to find a lot of Citations for Shopping Centres.
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- FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC) A most worthy project!
- Flavio Villanustre (talk) 13:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC) Glad to help!
- Ford MF (talk) 03:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC) E-mail me if you need me.
- Forridean 03:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Is there a club for people who forget to log in, too?
- Fosnez 20:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC) - Sign me up!
- Francium12 I loathe deletionism! Francium12 18:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Fuzheado | Talk - I suppose I'm obliged to sign up as my blog post instigated much of this. :) There is too much emphasis on pruning, filtering and destroying, but without the cooperative community discussion, {{sofixit}} culture, and a roll up your sleeves attitude.
- hey_pal (Friend.hey)(talk) 13:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC) Friend.hey (talk) happy to contribute!
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- Germanname1990 (talk) 22:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC) I have always been passionate about helping others for good causes, no matter how significant these causes are. This is another cause I am eager to help out on. Even if there are topics that I have no knowledge of, I'll do what I can to fix them.
- Gnan garra - notability is a corner stone of Wikipedia it cannot be ignored.
- Gongshow Talk 06:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC) I'm happy to help where I can.
- Gordonofcartion. Fine idea. I do lean toward deletionism, but (as others have said above) it's always good to turn around AFDs based on article weaknesses that can be quickly mended. Gordonofcartoon 21:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Guy Macon (talk) 09:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC) Especially interested in rescue of worthy engineering, technology and science articles.
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- Hangakiran 01:18 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Harland1 (talk) 16:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Havok (T/C/e/c) 16:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hazillow (talk) 07:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hdt83 Chat 09:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC) I've come across several AFDs where the article was in bad shape but the subject was notable. A good way to help improve Wikipedia. --Hdt83 Chat 09:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hotspot I'm in, you don't know how many of my images have been removed. Without images things can be harder to understand and then you have to go on a search engine and find an image yourself which can be hard for something that isn't popular like a video game or a show.(Hotspot) 12:06 PM September 20? 21? 2009 (UTC)
- HowardBGolden (talk) 01:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC) I'm especially concerned with academic software AfDs
- Huwmanbeing ☀ ★ 12:33, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hydroxonium (talk) 05:26, 1 October 2010 (UTC) - I'm willing to help
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- User:I.am.lost formerly QueerAsFolk, 18:02, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- Ichormosquito I feel at home. Thanks, Fosnez! Article creation should always be encouraged. 05:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Iswearius (talk) 07:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- J04n(talk page) 09:57, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- KF5LLG --KF5LLG (talk) 00:05, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
- It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 15:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC) I'd love to help out!
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- Jamison Lofthouse (talk) 19:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- JDDJS (talk) 00:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC) My article has been saved from deletion. I want to help return the favor.
- Jethwarp (talk) 07:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC) Oh!! I have done this for many of my articles!! Like to do for others also!!
- Jheiv (talk) 04:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Jim Miller I didn't even know there was a project for something I've been doing anyway. With that nifty life preserver logo, what else can I do but jump right into the pool! Jim Miller (talk) 20:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- jjska®ate ??|?® 08:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Delete, delete and delete. No mercy to many beginners or to some articles that needs help. Delete.
- Jmbranum (talk) 06:33, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Jminthorne (talk) 04:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- JNF Tveit (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 12:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- John Z (talk) 08:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Jojalozzo (talk) 19:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
- Jokestress (talk) 16:11, 5 September 2009 (UTC) I cannot abide deletionism, especially its most virulent form, speedy deletion.
- Jordan "Eck" Samuel (talk) 06:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Joshdboz 10:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC) This is a great idea. I can't stand when articles are deleted even when the notability of the topic is admitted!
- Jonathan Bowen (talk) 21:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- JT72 Count me in too!
- Junius49 (talk) 21:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
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- KeptSouth (talk) 22:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Keresaspa (talk) 17:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Kevin Murray 20:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Kingturtle (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Kitty53 (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC) I am so glad something like this exists! I want to save articles on Wikipedia! I don't know why such good articles get deleted, but if I should ever bump into an article that needs our help, I will be there when I have time! I mean, those poor, innocent articles, they deserve to exist on Wikipedia! I wish I was part of this eversince I joined Wikipedia. All that should be deleted are articles that view nonsense, and accidental creations! Articles that view very little info should be expanded, not deleted! Very small articles/stubs should just be expanded enough to stay on Wikipedia for all eternity!Kitty53 (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Kizor. No particular qualifications, but I've been around WP for a while; drop me a line if you need a hand. 00:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ks64q2 (talk) 04:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC) I'm happy to help out.
- Kuralyov (talk) 02:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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- Laualoha 11:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC) I can help with whatever is needed, as time & drama permits, but can especially try to help with minority articles that are having a hard time being understood as valid. Do my best, anyway.
- Leifern (talk) 01:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Eclectic interests, sporadic participation, but a particular emphasis on Norwegian history.
- Libertyguy (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Liz (talk) 08:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC) - I'm in. Took me a while to join up, but I'm here now!
- Lumos3 (talk) 10:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC) Many AFDs I have encountered are ways of pushing a POV agenda.
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- Machete97 (talk) 12:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Inclusionist, would like to help against rampant deletion of notable topics.
- maestrosync talk — 01:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Mandsford (talk) 12:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Count me in. I think all information can be saved somewhere, even if not all individual articles can be rescued.
- ManicSpider (talk) 23:39, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Marcusmax(speak) 17:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- Marhawkman (talk) 05:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Sure, deletionists annoy me.
- Marshmir 08:13, 11 February 2012 (UTC) Great idea to rescue the articles from deletion, as Wikipedia is knowledge center, and every article is knowledge, deleting article is not good job and its very easy to simply delete articles, but hard is to keep it undelete and improve it by collecting and assembling information about article.
- MASEM 14:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Mathieas (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Mathmo Talk, because I am a wild-eyed inclusionist. ;)
- Matt Yeager ? (Talk?) 07:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Thank heavens for something like this.
- Matthewrbowker
- MaverickSolutions (talk) 00:18, 13 April 2009 (UTC) - We're happy to help on any technology-related articles.
- MC10 (T•C•GB•L•EM) – I check in when I have the time to.
- Metty (talk) 16:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC) Seems everyone that I admire the most for their comments in AfD is a member of this group. Looks like the place to be. (:
- Milowent --Milowent (talk) 13:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC) Defending The History of Earth! :-)
- Mkativerata (talk) 06:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC) I don't have the time to try to help rescue every article for which I !vote keep, but I try when I can.
- Mohamed Magdy (talk) 13:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC) - Very nice idea of course, I have always been thinking of it that way, when you see something broken you should attempt to fix it, before you destroy it completely. Thank you.
- Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 21:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC) - Something needs to be fixed about deletion, and this is one good place to start.
- Mostlyharmless (talk) 23:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Mr. Brain (talk) 02:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC) Definitely interested in having some of my articles retrieved.
- MR.' Pre'Z 23:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- User:musically ut is rolling up his sleeves. musically_ut (talk) 03:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- My76Strat (talk) I would be happy to assist in this regard.My76Strat (talk) 05:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
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- Nappyrootslistener (talk) 23:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- NBeale (talk) 12:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC) This is a great idea - I wish I had known about it before.
- Neil ? - I am a deletionist, and will happily delete all kinds of rubbish. But topics that should be on Wikipedia but the article is so crappy it needs rescuing from AFD must be saved. I've recsusitated a few myself from AFD by improving them.
- Neo12345292 Neo12345292 (talk) 03:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC) We shall Save the World!
- Netmouse (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC) I think deletion is one of the processes most relevant to questions facing the Strategic Task Force on increasing reader contributions. I invite everyone here to join us in considering these questions.
- Netrat (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Already set the userbox to my userpage.
- Nick carson (talk) 08:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nihola (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2011 (UTC) I'm in.
- Novickas. Have felt good about various rescues. Novickas (talk) 21:27, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- Novinha (talk) 16:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nuujinn (talk) 18:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
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- OlYellerTalktome 20:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 21:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)- I like the idea, and I'll try to help as much as I can.
- otherlleft (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC) I still don't know if I'm a deletionist, inclusionist, or just plain Wikipedian, but this project makes sense.
- Ottre 22:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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- Pedro J. the rookie 22:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 23:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- Picapica (talk) 16:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Pink Bull 18:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the invitation!
- Plasma Twa 2 07:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC) - Saw this during the afd for Television series considered the greatest ever. Sounds like a noble cause. Sign me up.
- Puchiko About a hundred articles are proposed for deletion every day. Surely, not all of them can be hopeless cases. 16:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Quistisffviii (talk) 08:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC) I believe people should be checking for vandalism, not locating an article to delete. I also believe that notability is in the eye of the beholder.
- Racconish Tk 16:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
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- Radiopathy (talk) 02:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Rak-Tai Rak-Tai (talk) 02:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- Randall Bart Talk 21:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ratzer (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC) I hope to help with geographical articles pending deletion
- Rebecca 02:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC) - Count me in.
- User:Reinyday, 17:41, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ritchie333 (talk) 10:16, 6 January 2012 (UTC) Semi-regular dumpster diver saving articles from deletion via CSD or AfD with numerous resulting DYK credits, particular expertise on geography and bands.
- rkmlai (talk) 21:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Robotnick2 Messages? 15:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC) I was Anikin3, I've changed usernames. Still very happy to help :-D
- Ronabop Brilliant! 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- RoninBK T C 20:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC) I like this idea, this is why I started patrolling AfD in the first place.
- Rothorpe (talk) 00:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 21:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC) Deleted Content is lost content. The destruction of world libraries, archives and encyclopedias are the primary cause for the losses in knowledge for mankind.
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- Sabine McNeill (talk) 20:48, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sandman30s (talk) 18:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC) I stopped adding new articles when my video game articles were deleted. To hell with notability. What about 'the sum of all knowledge of mankind' in the founder's words?
- SarekOfVulcan 20:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC) - I'm in: I love fixing articles.
- Sasawatcan talk and Edit 20:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Scieberking (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC) I'm more than willing to help.
- Scouto2 (talk) 23:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC) I'll join to keep articles from falling into a state of disrepair.
- Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC) I'd much rather fix the damn pipe than stand around complaining about having wet feet.
- Secret formerly Jaranda wat's sup 20:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC) - Only when it's certain sports articles
- Sehmeet singh Talk 17:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
- User:shanem201 --Shanem201 (talk) 00:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Shanoman (talk) 22:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) I can't very well ask others to save my articles, if I don't save theirs!
- Shirishag75 (talk) 15:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- ShoesssS Talk 17:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC) The topic says all that needs to be said.
- Shunpiker (talk) 19:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Hurrah for redemption!
- SifaV6 (talk) 09:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- SilkTork *YES! 10:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC) I'm in. I have been doing this already, so it's good to know there's a collective to share ideas and alert each other to articles that need attention.
- SilverserenC 09:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- SimonP 17:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sjc 09:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC) - Long overdue. Wikipedia is not paper [8] - keep that link to hand, it is the number one weapon we have in our arsenal against the rapine depredations of the deletionists.
- What about a squirrel? (talk) 23:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC) In the name of Chipmunk accuracy!
- Skitzo (talk) 10:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC) I will probably be most use of English football related articles but I'll lend a hand with most articles.
- Skyler13 (talk) 19:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)--Skyler :^|
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- Smallman12q (talk) 20:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC) Hardcore inclusionist all the way!
- Smartcom5 (Talk ?) Glad to see someone who is also dedicated ! ?-User too ! Lock'n load guys. :-)
- SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 14:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Why? Pretty much exactly what DGG said above. This Wikigroup should not (and presently does not seem to be) an rabid inclusionism force, but rather a balancing factor against the entropy of extremist deletionism, which is clearly rampant.
- Smerdis of Tlön (talk) - AfD is probably one of the most significant sources of new article ideas for me. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- SMSpivey (talk) 07:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC) - yea, forgot to add my name here
- Sngourd (talk) 15:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sotonfc4life (talk) 21:33, 20 January 2010 (UTC) Encyclopedias are supposed to be the font of knowledge, the internet is supposed to share that knowledge, and Wikipedia should be integral to that. Deleting articles like hungry sharks eating fish is counter productive to those aims.
- Speeda psx (talk · contribs) 15:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Some guys deleted some of my hard work that had time to improve.Inclusionist giving help to you guys!
- Squamate (talk) 02:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Tired of people who seem to live for deletion.
- Staffwaterboy Critique Me Guestbook Hate Comments 18:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC) Count me in
- Stereorock I do not like deletion!Stereorock (talk) 23:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strummer25 (talk) 19:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC) I'm glad to join.
- SunCreator (talk) 12:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- superstooge (talk) 21:00, 28 August 2009
- Suraj T 04:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
- Swatkatz14 (talk) 12:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Syed Kazim | Talk 20:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
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- T L Miles (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Per user "MQSchmidt" (120, above). Know something of West African History, and France and UK 19th century history, some football (soccer) and leftist stuff.
- T1980 (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC) count me in!
- ThaddeusB (talk) 15:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC) Guess I should probably make this official now. :) In addition to being an editor who tries to save articles, I am also an admin & bot operator. As such, I am willing to help out in admin/BOT areas when the need arises (time permitting of course). --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 00:51, 14 October 2010 (UTC) - Mostly aircraft and military stuff.
- the wub "?!" 23:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Theleftorium (talk) 21:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thespian 10:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC) - This proactive sort of movement warms the cockles of my inclusionist heart.
- Thewinchester (talk) 03:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC) Having had to advocate for the deletion of bad articles such as Out Now Consulting and save Karrinyup Shopping Centre from crazed deletionists who don't know how to use cleanup tags, I can totally understand the purpose of this group.
- Timeshifter (talk) 08:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Tim Vickers 05:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC) - Drop me a note when biology or medicine articles are nominated as having questionable accuracy/notability. I'll be happy to look into it.
- Tinucherian (talk) 01:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- TomCat4680 (talk) 06:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Thanks for inviting me, glad to be here. I hate it when people nominiate pages I made for AFD.
- Trackinfo (talk) 05:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC) Good idea. I've already rescued and sourced several hundred "unsourced BLPs" that are at the heart of the current debate. I've been quite outspoken about the unnecessary deletion of articles, so I may as well be part of your group.
- Trey (talk) 03:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC) A noble cause i'll help where i can.
- Tvoz/talk 20:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC) As usual, DGG has it right - delete if it's hopeless, but fix if there's any hope. WE ARE NOT PAPER. Tvoz/talk 20:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Txtrooper (talk) 21:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Tyranny Sue (talk) I'll have a go :) --Tyranny Sue (talk) 03:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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- UnicornTapestry (talk) 00:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC) • Now I don't feel as much an outsider as an outrider.
- Unionhawk (talk) 21:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC) Count me in!
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- Veraladeramanera</sup> T C Hi, I want to join ARS because I want to rescue articles on Wikipedia that have been AfD nominated because they lack "Encyclopedic info". That is not a good reason to Nominate them for deletion, no matter how little info they have! The only time an AfD nomination is really legitimate in my opinion is when they lack encyclopedic topics!
- Verbal chat 08:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC) If it's worth keeping then keep, but sometimes a fresh start is better. I do not support canvassing, and hope this group moves away from it.
- Verdatum (talk) 19:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Victor falk I like that "Sofixit Spirit" stuff. --Victor falk 14:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Wageless (talk) 01:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC) I want to be a part of this.
- Warrior4321. Thanks for the invite. I'd be glad to join. warrior 4321 19:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ϣere SpielChequers 00:19, 11 September 2009 (UTC) I may have deleted 2,491 pages, but I do belong here honest.
- Werldwayd 08:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC) Title says it very beautifully and accurately actually. I couldn't have agreed more.
- WikiWebbie (talk) 01:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC) I wish I'd known about this before!
- Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC) A chance to help the encylcopedia grow in some ways that might be overlooked, and a chance to play hero! Count me in!
- |xDanielx]]Talk 22:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Zanimum 17:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC) Presuming the rescued articles remain truly worth rescuing.
- Zeborah 06:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC) - I've been trying to do this sort of thing in an off-and-on way for a while; hopefully being part of a group will spur me on to do it some more.
- WPSamson (talk) 07:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ziji File:Baby tao.jpg (talk email) 06:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC) It's been bugging me too and now at last a flying squadron to unswat the swatters
- RJH (talk) 15:58, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
- GrandPhilliesFan (talk) 09:51, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- CallawayRox (talk) 18:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- --Thehistorian10 (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- --Red October 14:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- Qwerty0 (talk) 16:30, 13 December 2011 (UTC) Just started monitoring the AfD page. Wish I'd been doing it sooner.
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- 59.95.*.* (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Takeo 17:00, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- +A.Ou 03:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC) - Let no efforts be wasted.
- A20anna One of the things I think that can be improved is when a new person like me joined, I was immediately accused of something called sockpuppet. I was very hurt by that, and the funny thing was I did not even know what it was! They just posted this huge horrible sign on my talk page. I joined because of a few issues on page. So I will be a big defender of the Rescue Squad and its efforts. Happy Editing Love, Anna (talk) 05:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- AlexandraMayers (talk) 03:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- Alwayssoma (talk) 21:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC) Very interested in finding good sources and keeping, not deleting, articles whenever there is any hope. Keen on biographies and literature, arts and entertainment projects.
- Andreasr2d2 (talk) 04:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC) Count me in.
- Angdl I seriously need to get my article rescued.
- AshleyMiller (talk) 14:29, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Avinashv (talk) 11:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Baller449 (talk) 19:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- betsythedevine (talk) 17:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- bjfs discuss 13:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Amputation is a last resort, this cannot be a common practise in quality assurance.
- Borisu - Wikipedia is too important to let the average mob rule it.
- Bradybd (talk) 05:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- BrandlandUSA (talk) 1 February 2011 (UTC) One can always build on knowledge but if you delete it, it goes BYE BYE and can't be the foundation for something useful.
- C4MB (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
- Cel Talk to me 04:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC) This is pretty much what I do now.
- D4g0thur 08:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Daniel Jones (talk) 15:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC) - pleased to be of service
- DarkArcher25 (talk) 01:51, 3 June 2010 (UTC) The DarkArcher pledges his loyalty...
- Dc76 12:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC) - Hi. I just saw the article about forming of this discussion group on Signpost, and I would like to join in. My reasons for joining are the ones presented above e.g. by DGG and Fuzheado. I suggest to start something like "AfR" (Articles for Rescue), where any person can nominate articles. The idea, as I understand, would be 1) to have a short discussion about what can be done with the particular article to improve it (or to recongnize it was unsalvageble), with specific propositions followed by 2) concrete actions ("I can do this. Here I am doing it. Now could you plz do that.") and 3) a final "vote" to see if the article has reached a level where it can be moved to mainspace.
- DHowell 22:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Sounds like a great idea. I'm also thinking of starting an "Article Adoption Agency" for articles which are useful and/or interesting (which as we all know won't save them from deletion) which get deleted despite the best efforts to rescue them, to find another wiki home to which they can be transwikied.
- dil (talk) 21:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC) Innocent until proven guilty - let those who would delete articles justify it.
- Diodesign (talk) 12:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- EdDownUnder (talk) 03:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Endless blue (talk) 04:23, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
- Explodicle (talk) 18:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ghym (talk) 05:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Granite thump (talk) 18:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- Greg987 (talk) 05:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hamster4921 Hamster4921 (talk) 07:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Sweetness46 (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Jethro Thompson J. Thompson (talk) 21:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Jahnx (talk) 00:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Iamthejustice (talk) 08:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ikip (talk) 17:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC) I forgot to sign up myself :) What I love about the Rescue squardon is the indirect results: we help the wikipedia project retain new editors (who are the unintended victims of the vast majority of AfDs) by letting new editors know that their contributions are meaningful and valuable.
- Incognito1980 --Incognito1980 18:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Irbisgreif (talk) 00:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC) - I may believe in deleting the bad, but please, let's save the good!
- Jadex99 (talk) 04:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC) Everything deserves a chance, research is critical before considering deletion. Willing to help with any topic!
- JavaTenor 19:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC) I've already done this a few times (most recently Barrington Irving, which was initially speedied), and I'd be happy to see it continue in more formal fashion.
- Louisprandtl (talk) 09:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ursasapien (talk) 08:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Random Fixer Of Things (talk) 18:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC) I am amazed by how many good (or potentially good) articles fall foul of PROD, SPEEDY and AFD and it seems that people not getting involved is what allows this to happen - "The only thing necessary for deletion is for good men to do nothing..."'
- Teeninvestor (talk) 01:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC) I've become very concerned with the actions of some users who simply delete content that can easily be improved.
- NoVomit (talk) 18:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Rhonan (talk) 16:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC) What use is cheap storage when people want to delete content?
- Mokhov (talk) 22:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC) - alright, a place I belong.
- Lauraserbu 13:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- Legoland12342 (talk) 18:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC) I was originally planning on joining the ARS about two or three months ago, but after reading about the lawsuit that's come about because of Wikipedia Art, I decided it was time to get off my duff and do something.
- Licit Ivy (talk) Save the dying articles! I also take requests. 08:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- Linuxlove8088 (talk) 01:57, 26 August 2009 (UTC) Yeah sounds good
- Macduffman (talk) 16:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Magnetic Rag (talk) 18:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC) --Don't have lots of time, but will contribute when I can.
- Makitomoda (talk) 10:16, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- modelmotion--Modelmotion (talk) 14:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- Matt-tastic (talk) Matt-tastic (talk) 12:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Moritheil (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC) Waste not, want not.
- MrPrada 07:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC) - Sometimes I wonder if there are more people out there tagging articles then writing them. Sign me up!
- Naglfar or Gleipnir? (talk) 21:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC) Good, an organization that is opposed to throwing out stub or small articles. My thanks. Great articles don't just appear, they are formed and edited up to great articles.
- Nemogbr (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2010 (UTC) I would prefer an article to be improved rather than deleted. It is counterproductive to simply delete.
- Neon5162 (talk) 18:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC) one of my articles was deleted for supoosidly advertiseing a gov program all i was doing was typing in what it offerd what was thier how many people it could hold stuff like that. Then thiers the fact that i hated the place and wouldnt let my worst enemy go there if i could help it.
- Neuromancer (talk) 5 November 2009.
- Noble Skuld the Legend Killer (talk) 17:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC) I'd love to contribute.
- Paularblaster (talk) 18:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- PauperHell (talk) 22:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- PedroMcA 2033, 10 January 2009
- PEPSI2786talk 05:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wiseleo (talk) 05:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC) Can't...stop...undeleting (it's in the blood)
- Sarasco (talk) 22:17, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Superlex (talk) 07:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC) - It's great to see people working to improve articles. Noble cause.
- Sultan-Commander (talk) 07:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Please include me. Will be happy to help.
- Phgao 17:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Zidel333 AfD breaks my heart. So, I'm happy to help as best I can. :) Please keep me posted of any new info.
- Viola</sup>sk81976 Most definitely.
- Svartulfr118:45, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- Timotab Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!) 16:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thhhh (talk) 16:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Tycoon24 (talk) 09:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC) Helping Wikipedia keep noteworthy encyclopedic information from deletion. The more I learn, the better at it I'll become.
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- Skeletor 0 (talk) 03:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC) To arms!
- Recurring dreams Count me in.
- Porterjoh (talk) 23:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC) This interests me. Can't wait to get started.
- Scythre --ScythreTalkContribs 19:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- JordanITP (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
- Jreferee - I am particularly interested in AfD'd articles where there is a huge disagreement over whether a topic is notable and nobody takes any steps to actually reference the article. In other words, where everyone so eager to talk the talk, I'm willing to walk the walk.
- Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 18:02, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- Tony G 15:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Doing what I can when I can (and the best way to reach me is by e-mail)
- Veronika Stolbikova formerly VeronikaS (talk) 11:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- Vickser (talk) 01:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikiven (talk) 14:51, 15 January 2009
- Wl219 21:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- WorthyDan (talk) 12:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC) Fed up with the Speedy Deletion nutters trying to delete pages I've only started minutes earlier
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Government Engineering College Raichur
A search for GNG-compliant sources is requested. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 09:56, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Beecher's Bible
Term related to the American historical figures of John Brown (abolitionist) and Minister Henry Ward Beecher. Beecher's Bibles were used in the Bleeding Kansas events. The term is also synonymous with sharps carbines like the ones brown used at Harpers Ferry. The article needs help as it is missing many citations. Lightburst (talk) 17:39, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Austin Bush
Some references have been brought to the AfD. Nomination disputes the quality of the references in the article. Can we fix up this Thai food photographer's article? Or is it destined for deletion? The recipe calls for more RS. Lightburst (talk) 14:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC) Template:Archive bottom
Beast of Bevendean
Expand article with more citations. Duck Dawny (talk) 11:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting subject. I was able to add a bit. Interesting to look at the see also section I added. Apparently there are quite a few Cryptids or big cats with the "Beast of..." moniker.Lightburst (talk) 16:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Lake Five (Montana)
A decent size lake in Kalispell Montana. Can we turn this stub into an article with newspapers and books? Lightburst (talk) 15:29, 24 August 2022 (UTC) Template:Abot
Coastal Grandmother
I recently created an article for Coastal Grandmother, a fashion trend that has been in the media over past year. It is a brief stub, but I think the amount of media attention justifies the article. Any help in finding sourcing would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2022 (UTC) Template:Abot
Heather Gladney
I just voted to delete. Article is about a writer who was active in the 1980s. Currently there is no evidence of notability. But there is unconfirmed content in the article that she wrote two plays(or maybe books?). If anyone can prove that to be true, she might get a pass at WP:CREATIVE. I'd love to be proven wrong and be able to change my vote. CT55555 (talk) 03:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- One of my first litmus tests for authors is LibraryThing ie. [9]. It's not a reliable source being crowed source, but that's what makes it valuable to see what the general population thinks in terms of number of holdings and rankings (LT has great stats). In this case we can see her most popular book is Teot's War which is ranked 188,542 among all books which is somewhat notable (most books rank in the millions) - enough evidence to keep looking. It was published in 1987 and seems to be a slow burner getting steady but low readership over time. One blog post called it "overlooked". There is one review by Fritz Leiber. Blood Storm has one review. Both in Locus. Not much for notability from the same magazine which normally reviews many books anyway. -- GreenC 06:02, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've searched in all the usual places for reviews, but could only find similar to the above. I got the same impression about the two possibly notable books, but only passing mentions or blog/fan-site type sources. CT55555 (talk) 21:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Added a few more things and cleaned up a bit. Found a reliable source in Charles Gramlich who confirmed she is a "forgotten writer". Notable for being forgotten? Anyway, even if it's deleted the page will be cached somewhere like Deletionpedia not a total loss of effort. -- GreenC GreenC 00:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've searched in all the usual places for reviews, but could only find similar to the above. I got the same impression about the two possibly notable books, but only passing mentions or blog/fan-site type sources. CT55555 (talk) 21:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
UP Halcyon
Few English language sources. There may be sources in native Filipino languages, which I do not know. Organization appears valid and notable, and article is short and well-written without puffery, but merely lacks sources. Jax MN (talk) 16:15, 5 August 2022 (UTC) Template:Abot
List of books considered the worst
Has a lot of sources but inclusion criteria is poorly defined and list needs massive trimming; WP:NOTCLEANUP nom. Dronebogus (talk) 11:52, 1 August 2022 (UTC) Template:Abot
List of dog fighting breeds
A notable list which can be cited and improved? Lightburst (talk) 02:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC) Template:Abot
Busy work
Some did work on this article last time it was nominated for deletion and tagged for help in on this Rescue list. Seems like a notable concept so some should be able to help find sources to review and improve it. Dream Focus 07:06, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Nomination withdrawn. SailingInABathTub (talk) 13:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Kept 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:33, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Anti-Life Equation
Another article that in its previous AFD was tagged for help for the Rescue Article Squadron. Clicking the search link for reliable sources has a lot of results to sort through. Dream Focus 07:06, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Nomination withdrawn. Not yet closed. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:25, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
John Mason (schoolmaster)
The previous AFD was on the Rescue list, and ended in keep. Such a generic name and most sources are from India. Does anyone want to help with this? Template:Ping found things that convinced people last time. Dream Focus 11:33, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I see the nomination is now withdrawn, good work. It's amazing to see AfDs I worked on 10 or more years ago come back up occasionally!--Milowent • hasspoken 12:48, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep Per the closer: "{The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Joanne Roberts
Learned person and economist. Currently the President of a college in Singapore. Lightburst (talk) 14:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Deleted Per the closer: "The result was delete. This individual appears to be right on the knife edge of notability. Despite concerted efforts to stretch the definitions of WP:NACADEMIC to declare this individual notable, I find rough consensus here that she does not quite pass those requirements just yet." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Cursor & pointer , and
choose the options that work best for you.
Desktop programs downloaded and installed
Programs downloaded
- Active Presenter -
- AnyMP4 Studio - Paid
- Audacity - Free open source - https://www.audacityteam.org/
- Badicut - Bandicut Video Cutter, Joiner and Splitter Software - Bandicam https://www.bandicam.com/bandicut-video-cutter
- FalshIntegro - https://www.videosoftdev.com/about-us
- VSDC Free Audio Converter - https://www.videosoftdev.com/free-audio-converter
- Freemake -
- LabView -
- Lightshot - https://app.prntscr.com/en screenshot program
- ShareX -
- smart Notebook -
- WeChat -
- VLC Media player
- Free Cam 8 - WMV file only (cannot be uploaded needs to be converted first) - https://www.freescreenrecording.com
Bulk rename utility Bulk file rename utility
Firefox Need to get rid of "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/utbtdl/need_to_get_rid_of_importenterpriseroots
The two ways to lock a preference are:
(1) Enterprise Policy -- check about:policies
This can be done by dropping a file: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson
(2) Autoconfig
This is done by dropping two files: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-autoconfig
What is "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1306557
This is a pretty common question that gets asked here.
The ImportEnterpriseRoots policy is setup by a lot of security programs (antivirus, firewall, etc). Security programs often use this policy so that they can view incoming secure connections to check that the content is safe, without triggering error messages in Firefox.
That policy has no impact on what settings you will be able to use in Firefox. It will cause the "Your computer is being managed by your organization" warning message to appear on top of the settings page, but that's it.
Removing that policy from your computer often causes your security program to stop working and/or will cause issues in Firefox when loading some websites.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Telegram
Telegram discussion group with "chat history for new members"
Called Discussion button
- https://www.v-user.com/en/blog/how-to-activate-comments-on-telegram-channels
- https://core.telegram.org/api/discussion
- https://www.alphr.com/add-comment-to-channel-telegram
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SvNrM8QW0 Youtube 2022
- https://www.istaunch.com/export-telegram-contacts-and-group-members/
scrape users in telegram
- https://exybot.com/telegram-kit-2-0/ expensive $250
Export telegram contacts on pc windows
How to Export Telegram Contacts and Group Members (PC)
Download and install Telegram for Windows/Mac on PC.
Launch Telegram on your PC and login to your account using Phone Number or QR code.
After successful login, it will take you to the Dashboard where you find the list of the conversations, here
- tap on the three lines icon at the top on PC.
- It will open a new menu with the list of options, select Settings.
- Next, click on Advanced as shown in the below image.
- Scroll down to the last and tap on the Export Telegram Data.
- After that, select the data you want to export from Telegram. Just select the Account Information and Contact list option.
- Scroll down and select the location where you want to download the data and select Human-readable HTML format. Tap on the Export.
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upload video anonymously drag and drop
https://www.veed.io/send-video
VLC MEDIA PLAYER
ActivePresenter
Record screen with video.
Excellent! Downloaded from RuTracker.org August 28 2022 only 44 MB.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6002607
How to Export ActivePresenter Projects to Videos
https://atomisystems.com/tutorials/export-activepresenter-projects-videos/
8 Best Screen Recorders for Windows 10 in 2022- Free & Paid
https://atomisystems.com/screencasting/record-screen-windows-10/
Bulk converting audio files into one
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VSDC Pro Video Editor 7.1
RuTracker.ORG
19 Best Free Software to Batch Convert WMA To MP3 for Windows https://listoffreeware.com/free-software-batch-convert-wma-to-mp3-windows/
- https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=40113587 Wondershare UniConverter does not support .WMA wma files
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https://www.google.com/search?q=unlock+%22wma%22+protected+files
10 ways to bulk convert audio files into one
From: https://multimedia.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/audio-joiner.html#part3
3. Copy Command on Windows
Platform: Windows
Windows allows you to merge audio from the command prompt. Here is the command you can use is as follows:
copy /b *.mp3 c:\merged.mp3
The command above means it will find all MP3 files in the directory and join them into the merged.mp3 file.
If you want to add only a few files add them accordingly using a "+" sign in between.
- Pros
No need to install a software
The simplest way to merge audio files without losing quality
- Cons
Not possible to edit the files
No way to change the format of the output file
Cumbersome to use.
VLC
Source: https://www.videoproc.com/audio-editor/best-audio-mergers.htm
3. How to Merge MP3 Files on Windows 10 with VLC
VLC is an open-source free program that you can free access to. Based on its introduction of how to merge videos, we have tested its capability of combining audio files, and it turns out to be feasible as well. Before we kick off, you need to make sure that all of your audio files have the file extension of .mp3. Otherwise, this method may not work for you. (Notice: if you have different formatted audio files such as .flac and .mp3, see the workaround.)
Step 1. Download and install VLC on your computer.
You are recommended to install VLC locally by its default route.
Step 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts
Win+X > click Command Prompt in the pop-up list.
Or, use the hotkey combination
Win+R to open Run >
type cmd in the box >
hit Enter
Then the Command Prompt will be opened as well.
Run Command Prompt
[Win+R] > cmd to run Command Prompt
Step 3. In the Command Prompt, enter the command: cd c:\mp3, then hit the Enter key.
- Sidenote: The c:\mp3 command is the file folder directory where your mp3 audio files are kept. If your audio files are kept on C disk, c:\ file location
Step 4: There will be c:\mp3> command already existing, copy and paste commands as follows:
"C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vv 1.mp3 2.mp3 --sout-keep --sout=#gather:transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128}:standard{access=file,mux=dummy,dst=combinedout.mp3}
- Sidenotes:
- 1. C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe command refers to the directory path where the VLC launching program is located in your Windows computer, which is also the default path of VLC setup. Change it if you've set a different destination path for your VLC installation.
- 2. The 1.mp3 2.mp3 command refers to the filename of your audio tracks. Customize the part based on your personal demands.
- 3. The combinedout.mp3 command refers to the file name of the combined file. You can change it to the one you like.
Reset password Change or reset your Windows password
Select Start >
Settings >
Accounts >
Sign-in options .
Under Password, select the Change button and follow the steps.
https://www.rbth.com/articles/2011/12/07/a_rewarding_challenge_13919.html
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How to Burn a CD or DVD on Windows 10 https://www.howtogeek.com/689705/how-to-burn-a-cd-or-dvd-on-windows-10/
GRAMFILE
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How do I switch between ink tank and cartridge on HP Ink 410 series ?
I want to disable the use of the ink cartridges completely.
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Download whatsapp messages in bulk batch
https://www.unictool.com/whatsapp/export-all-whatsapp-chats-at-once/
How to Take Batch Screenshots or Screencaps in VLC Media Player
FEB 1, 2021
https://turbofuture.com/computers/How-to-take-batch-screenshots-or-screencaps-in-VLC-Media-Player
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How to Export WhatsApp Group Contacts to Excel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
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Subtitle Editor
Subtitle Edit
Overview
Subtitle Edit is a free (open source) editor for video subtitles - a subtitle editor :)
With SE you can easily adjust a subtitle if it is out of sync with the video in several different ways. You can also use SE for making new subtitles from scratch (do use the time-line/waveform/spectrogram) or translating subtitles.
For a list of features see below or check out the Subtitle Edit Help page. On my blog you can download latest beta version and read about/discuss new features.
Also, you can watch a few videos about installing and using Subtitle Edit.
Transfer import facebook to vk
Coding
https://github.com/mekhovov/Export-Posts-from-FB-2-LI-VK/blob/master/export_FB_2_LI_VK.rb
Convert audio m4a to video
https://www.freeconvert.com/m4a-to-mp4/download DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
RUSSIAN SITE https://online-audio-convert.com/ru/m4a-to-mp4/ DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
kdenlive: crop a video
- kdenlive crop a video
- Click the zone start icon
- Click he zone end icon
- Right click the new zone and extract video
merge 2 videos online
Adobe
https://express.adobe.com/tools/merge-videos/#
Quotes background maker
Delete portions of a page for printing
- Print Edit WE
- To start editing the page:
- click on the Print Edit WE button on the main toolbar, or
- select Print Edit WE > Start Editing on the context menu.
- A blue 'EDIT' (editing) badge will appear on the button.
- To start editing the page:
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How to Print Web Pages and Remove Unwanted Content-
Print Friendly & PDF (overview)
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wifi
WiFi Keeps Disconnecting on Windows 10? Here’s the Fix
- Wi-Fi drops connection and available networks disappear
- Suggestion: Turn Bluetooth on or off in Windows
Install a Bandwidth Monitor On Your Computer
What's system interrupts high CPU usage in Windows 10
Change Rename Batch Files and Folders in Windows
4 Ways to Batch Rename Files in Windows (USE POWERSHELL)
https://www.maketecheasier.com/batch-rename-files-in-windows/
Rename files by matching partial name (power toys - doesnt work)
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-rename-multiple-files-bulk-windows-10
General:
6 Ways to Rename Files and Folders in Windows 10
https://www.howtogeek.com/665514/6-ways-to-rename-files-and-folders-in-windows-10/
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
- Open File Explorer by using key combination Windows Key + E and navigate to the folder you want to use as a source for view layout settings.
- Windows 10, navigate to the View tab in ribbon baron the top and change the settings per your wish. You can change the layout and choose the folder details to display, add extra panes, adjust column width, etc.
- Once done with the changes, click Options to open the File Explorer Options, earlier called Folder Options. window.
- Finally, navigate to View tab in Folder Options window.
- Click/Tap on Apply to Folders button.\
Sections in a taskbar
- The Windows TaskBar
- The Start Button--Opens the menu.
- The Quick Launch bar--contains shortcuts to commonly used applications. ...
- The main Taskbar--displays icons for all open applications and files.
- The System Tray--contains the clock and icons for some of the programs running in the background.
Unpin a program on the taskbar
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/cant-unpin-or-remove-program-icons-from-windows-10-taskbar
QUICK LAUNCH open folder
[https://www.lifewire.com/add-quick-launch-toolbar-in-windows-10-5115231
Enter %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\ into the navigation field at the top of the window, and press Enter. Click Select Folder. You now have a quick launch toolbar on your taskbar. However, it's on the right side, and the original quick launch was on the left.Aug 4, 2021
How to Add the Quick Launch Toolbar in Windows 10 - Lifewire
show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
How to show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
To change a representation of hyperlinks in a document, do the following:
1. On the File tab, click the Options button:
Options in Word 2016
2. In the Word Options dialog box,
- on the Advanced tab,
- under Show document content,
- uncheck the Show field codes instead of their values checkbox:
Advanced tab in Word Options 2016 After clicking OK, all hyperlinks in the document will be shown as usual, as blue hyperlinks:
Hyperlink in Word 2016
- MICROSOFT WORD - get hyperlinks to show
- File>Options>Advanced> [Show document content] section uncheck the box for "Show field codes instead of their values".
YOUTUBE Add more channels to YouTube
Can You Have More Than One YouTube Channel? (January 21, 2021)
Visit your list of Channels, https://www.youtube.com/account
Click Create a new channel button.
Create a new channel button on YouTube
Give your new account a name, and then click Create.
New Brand Channel Create button on YouTube You'll immediately be taken to your new channel where you can customize your account and upload videos.
Screenshot program for laptop
LIGHTSHOT The fastest way to take a customizable screenshot
HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
If the folder you want to open in Command Prompt is on your desktop or already open in File Explorer, you can quickly change to that directory.
Type cd followed by a space, DRAG AND DROP the folder into the window, and then press Enter. The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
INSTRUCTIONS:
0. Open Command Prompt
02: Copy and paste directory C:\Users\user\Desktop\STUFF
1. Type cd followed by a space,
2. drag and drop the folder into the window, and then
3. press Enter.
The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
- How to copy a list of file names in a folder to text file?
EXCELLENT!
use cmd.exe
type dir /b > dirlist.txt
More instructions may 2024
Command to list all files in a folder as well as sub-folders in
Follow these baby steps:
1. Press Windows + R.
2. Press Enter.
3. cmd.
4. Press Enter.
5. ch (name of directory) Example: C:\Users\**\Desktop\**\** 1994\1993 ** central **
6. Type dir /b > dirlist.txt
7. Press Enter.
from search "get names of all files windows 10 in a folder":
[10] STACK OVERFLOW
"change directory in cmd"
Open the Command Prompt (CMD) and type "cd" with a space, followed by the name of the directory,
or drag and drop the directory into CMD from File Explorer.
Press "Enter." Type "cd.." and press "Enter" to go back one directory.
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Free SSL certificate: https://app.zerossl.com/
Recording voice "on the fly"
Recording voice "on the fly": https://www.vocaroo.com
To sort
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Copy cyrillic webpage names
https://www.webatic.com/url-convertor
Calendar
https://www.calendarpedia.com/calendars/october-2022-calendar.html
VPN
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Download programs
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windows 10 change mouse visible
Make your mouse more visible by changing the color and size of the mouse pointer.
Start button
Settings >
Ease of Access >
Cursor & pointer , and
choose the options that work best for you.
Desktop programs downloaded and installed
Programs downloaded
- Active Presenter -
- AnyMP4 Studio - Paid
- Audacity - Free open source - https://www.audacityteam.org/
- Badicut - Bandicut Video Cutter, Joiner and Splitter Software - Bandicam https://www.bandicam.com/bandicut-video-cutter
- FalshIntegro - https://www.videosoftdev.com/about-us
- VSDC Free Audio Converter - https://www.videosoftdev.com/free-audio-converter
- Freemake -
- LabView -
- Lightshot - https://app.prntscr.com/en screenshot program
- ShareX -
- smart Notebook -
- WeChat -
- VLC Media player
- Free Cam 8 - WMV file only (cannot be uploaded needs to be converted first) - https://www.freescreenrecording.com
Bulk rename utility Bulk file rename utility
Firefox Need to get rid of "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/utbtdl/need_to_get_rid_of_importenterpriseroots
The two ways to lock a preference are:
(1) Enterprise Policy -- check about:policies
This can be done by dropping a file: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson
(2) Autoconfig
This is done by dropping two files: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-autoconfig
What is "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1306557
This is a pretty common question that gets asked here.
The ImportEnterpriseRoots policy is setup by a lot of security programs (antivirus, firewall, etc). Security programs often use this policy so that they can view incoming secure connections to check that the content is safe, without triggering error messages in Firefox.
That policy has no impact on what settings you will be able to use in Firefox. It will cause the "Your computer is being managed by your organization" warning message to appear on top of the settings page, but that's it.
Removing that policy from your computer often causes your security program to stop working and/or will cause issues in Firefox when loading some websites.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Telegram
Telegram discussion group with "chat history for new members"
Called Discussion button
- https://www.v-user.com/en/blog/how-to-activate-comments-on-telegram-channels
- https://core.telegram.org/api/discussion
- https://www.alphr.com/add-comment-to-channel-telegram
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SvNrM8QW0 Youtube 2022
- https://www.istaunch.com/export-telegram-contacts-and-group-members/
scrape users in telegram
- https://exybot.com/telegram-kit-2-0/ expensive $250
Export telegram contacts on pc windows
How to Export Telegram Contacts and Group Members (PC)
Download and install Telegram for Windows/Mac on PC.
Launch Telegram on your PC and login to your account using Phone Number or QR code.
After successful login, it will take you to the Dashboard where you find the list of the conversations, here
- tap on the three lines icon at the top on PC.
- It will open a new menu with the list of options, select Settings.
- Next, click on Advanced as shown in the below image.
- Scroll down to the last and tap on the Export Telegram Data.
- After that, select the data you want to export from Telegram. Just select the Account Information and Contact list option.
- Scroll down and select the location where you want to download the data and select Human-readable HTML format. Tap on the Export.
VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6LRDTIPjE&t=42s&ab_channel=SmartFixer
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https://www.veed.io/send-video
VLC MEDIA PLAYER
ActivePresenter
Record screen with video.
Excellent! Downloaded from RuTracker.org August 28 2022 only 44 MB.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6002607
How to Export ActivePresenter Projects to Videos
https://atomisystems.com/tutorials/export-activepresenter-projects-videos/
8 Best Screen Recorders for Windows 10 in 2022- Free & Paid
https://atomisystems.com/screencasting/record-screen-windows-10/
Bulk converting audio files into one
DOESNT WORK
VSDC Pro Video Editor 7.1
RuTracker.ORG
19 Best Free Software to Batch Convert WMA To MP3 for Windows https://listoffreeware.com/free-software-batch-convert-wma-to-mp3-windows/
- https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=40113587 Wondershare UniConverter does not support .WMA wma files
AnyMP4 MXF Converter 8.0.10 RePack (& Portable) by TryRooM [2020,Multi/Ru]
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5956123
https://www.google.com/search?q=unlock+%22wma%22+protected+files
10 ways to bulk convert audio files into one
From: https://multimedia.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/audio-joiner.html#part3
3. Copy Command on Windows
Platform: Windows
Windows allows you to merge audio from the command prompt. Here is the command you can use is as follows:
copy /b *.mp3 c:\merged.mp3
The command above means it will find all MP3 files in the directory and join them into the merged.mp3 file.
If you want to add only a few files add them accordingly using a "+" sign in between.
- Pros
No need to install a software
The simplest way to merge audio files without losing quality
- Cons
Not possible to edit the files
No way to change the format of the output file
Cumbersome to use.
VLC
Source: https://www.videoproc.com/audio-editor/best-audio-mergers.htm
3. How to Merge MP3 Files on Windows 10 with VLC
VLC is an open-source free program that you can free access to. Based on its introduction of how to merge videos, we have tested its capability of combining audio files, and it turns out to be feasible as well. Before we kick off, you need to make sure that all of your audio files have the file extension of .mp3. Otherwise, this method may not work for you. (Notice: if you have different formatted audio files such as .flac and .mp3, see the workaround.)
Step 1. Download and install VLC on your computer.
You are recommended to install VLC locally by its default route.
Step 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts
Win+X > click Command Prompt in the pop-up list.
Or, use the hotkey combination
Win+R to open Run >
type cmd in the box >
hit Enter
Then the Command Prompt will be opened as well.
Run Command Prompt
[Win+R] > cmd to run Command Prompt
Step 3. In the Command Prompt, enter the command: cd c:\mp3, then hit the Enter key.
- Sidenote: The c:\mp3 command is the file folder directory where your mp3 audio files are kept. If your audio files are kept on C disk, c:\ file location
Step 4: There will be c:\mp3> command already existing, copy and paste commands as follows:
"C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vv 1.mp3 2.mp3 --sout-keep --sout=#gather:transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128}:standard{access=file,mux=dummy,dst=combinedout.mp3}
- Sidenotes:
- 1. C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe command refers to the directory path where the VLC launching program is located in your Windows computer, which is also the default path of VLC setup. Change it if you've set a different destination path for your VLC installation.
- 2. The 1.mp3 2.mp3 command refers to the filename of your audio tracks. Customize the part based on your personal demands.
- 3. The combinedout.mp3 command refers to the file name of the combined file. You can change it to the one you like.
Reset password Change or reset your Windows password
Select Start >
Settings >
Accounts >
Sign-in options .
Under Password, select the Change button and follow the steps.
https://www.rbth.com/articles/2011/12/07/a_rewarding_challenge_13919.html
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Adobe
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HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
If the folder you want to open in Command Prompt is on your desktop or already open in File Explorer, you can quickly change to that directory.
Type cd followed by a space, DRAG AND DROP the folder into the window, and then press Enter. The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
INSTRUCTIONS:
0. Open Command Prompt
02: Copy and paste directory C:\Users\user\Desktop\STUFF
1. Type cd followed by a space,
2. drag and drop the folder into the window, and then
3. press Enter.
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- How to copy a list of file names in a folder to text file?
EXCELLENT!
use cmd.exe
type dir /b > dirlist.txt
More instructions may 2024
Command to list all files in a folder as well as sub-folders in
Follow these baby steps:
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2. Press Enter.
3. cmd.
4. Press Enter.
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7. Press Enter.
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"change directory in cmd"
Open the Command Prompt (CMD) and type "cd" with a space, followed by the name of the directory,
or drag and drop the directory into CMD from File Explorer.
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Helping support the Guatemala syphilis experiment lawsuitI passed the D.C. law bar in 2009 and started my legal career with the US Federal Government in DC. The breaking point with this job was I was working with another attorney to defend the government in the Guatemala syphilis experiment case, a case in which United States government doctors intentionally and covertly infected Guatemalans with syphilis. I quit shortly afterward in disgust. After years of research and writing, I decided the only way to influence American foreign policy was outside of the United States. I moved back to Moscow in September 2018. |
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А чем пожертвуете Вы ради своих убеждений?</p>
Есть миллион причин остаться жить в Америке и лишь одна причина уехать из этой страны:
Соединённые Штаты — самая жестокая страна во всём мире.
В 2020 году я планирую развивать свою карьеру в двух направлениях. Во-первых, я устроюсь на работу в российский НИИ, например, в Российский институт стратегических исследований (РИСИ), и буду консультировать или составлять стратегические документы о том, как Россия может экономически дестабилизировать Соединённые Штаты. Или же мы сами создадим государственный НИИ в России, чтобы, среди прочего, упразднить авторское право.
На данные действия меня вдохновили, в основном, события, произошедшие в мае 1787 года: всего лишь двенадцать жителей Лондона создали Общество За Отмену Работорговли и всего за одно поколение им удалось отменить рабство во всём мире. Как говорила покойный антрополог Маргарет Мид: Не сомневайтесь, маленькая группа мыслящих, целеустремлённых граждан может изменить мир; на самом деле, только они его и меняют. Точно так же, как две сотни лет назад отменили рабство, можно прекратить войну и в наши дни.
Эта непоколебимая вера в мир основана на моём долгом пребывании за границей. Я жил в Украине, в «Корпусе Мира» в Одессе, когда террористы ударили по Центру международной торговли. У меня тогда был друг, араб из Дубая, и он был самым добрым, самым честным, самым потрясающим человеком, которого я когда-либо знал за всю свою жизнь. Несколько дней спустя после трагедии 11 сентября мы с моим другом Йазом гуляли по тёплой набережной портового города Одесса. И вдруг незнакомым низким голосов он сказал: «Если они [американцы] приедут в нашу страну, я убью их». Эта фраза потрясла меня. Как мог самый добрый человек, которого я когда-либо знал, так сильно ненавидеть Америку?
Этот вопрос не выходил у меня из головы даже после моего возвращения в Америку. После «Корпуса Мира» я одновременно получил степени доктора юридических наук и магистра в сфере международных отношений. На юридическом факультете я написал то, что позже стало моей второй книгой, — «Другая Война Америки: Тирания в Колумбии»; её опубликовали в 2017 году. Чтобы узнать, почему же мой добрый арабский друг ненавидел Америку, я написал подробный доклад «Почему Нас Ненавидят? Корни Анти-Американского Движения: Основа для Исследования».
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22 мая 1787 года двенадцать мужчин решили отменить работорговлю во всём мире. Они создали сообщество с целью, которая остальным жителям Лондона показалась безнадёжно идеалистичной и непрактичной: сначала покончить с работорговлей, а затем и с самим рабством в самой могущественной империи на Земле. За всего лишь одно поколение в Британской Империи, крупнейшей державе, торговавшей рабами, упразднили рабство, тем самым расчищая путь к отмене рабства во всём мире. |
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Поддержка судебного процесса против гватемальских экспериментов
Я сдал экзамен при поступлении в коллегию адвокатов в округе Колумбия в 2009 году и начал карьеру юриста в Федеральном Правительстве в округе Колумбия. На данной работе переломным моментом стало то, что мне пришлось работать с другим адвокатом над защитой правительства в деле об экспериментах с сифилисом в Гватемале. В этом деле врачи от правительства США намеренно тайно заражали гватемальцев сифилисом. Практически сразу я с отвращением покинул данный пост.
Спустя годы исследований и написания работ, я решил, что на внешнюю политику Америки можно повлиять только извне. Я вернулся в Москву в 2018.
На фото: пациентки Гватемальской Психиатрической Больницы, подвергнутые сифилису в качестве эксперимента, который проводили в 1946-1948 гг. |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/utbtdl/need_to_get_rid_of_importenterpriseroots
The two ways to lock a preference are:
(1) Enterprise Policy -- check about:policies
This can be done by dropping a file: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson
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This is done by dropping two files: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-autoconfig
What is "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1306557
This is a pretty common question that gets asked here.
The ImportEnterpriseRoots policy is setup by a lot of security programs (antivirus, firewall, etc). Security programs often use this policy so that they can view incoming secure connections to check that the content is safe, without triggering error messages in Firefox.
That policy has no impact on what settings you will be able to use in Firefox. It will cause the "Your computer is being managed by your organization" warning message to appear on top of the settings page, but that's it.
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Export telegram contacts on pc windows
How to Export Telegram Contacts and Group Members (PC)
Download and install Telegram for Windows/Mac on PC.
Launch Telegram on your PC and login to your account using Phone Number or QR code.
After successful login, it will take you to the Dashboard where you find the list of the conversations, here
- tap on the three lines icon at the top on PC.
- It will open a new menu with the list of options, select Settings.
- Next, click on Advanced as shown in the below image.
- Scroll down to the last and tap on the Export Telegram Data.
- After that, select the data you want to export from Telegram. Just select the Account Information and Contact list option.
- Scroll down and select the location where you want to download the data and select Human-readable HTML format. Tap on the Export.
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ActivePresenter
Record screen with video.
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How to Export ActivePresenter Projects to Videos
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8 Best Screen Recorders for Windows 10 in 2022- Free & Paid
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Bulk converting audio files into one
DOESNT WORK
VSDC Pro Video Editor 7.1
RuTracker.ORG
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10 ways to bulk convert audio files into one
From: https://multimedia.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/audio-joiner.html#part3
3. Copy Command on Windows
Platform: Windows
Windows allows you to merge audio from the command prompt. Here is the command you can use is as follows:
copy /b *.mp3 c:\merged.mp3
The command above means it will find all MP3 files in the directory and join them into the merged.mp3 file.
If you want to add only a few files add them accordingly using a "+" sign in between.
- Pros
No need to install a software
The simplest way to merge audio files without losing quality
- Cons
Not possible to edit the files
No way to change the format of the output file
Cumbersome to use.
VLC
Source: https://www.videoproc.com/audio-editor/best-audio-mergers.htm
3. How to Merge MP3 Files on Windows 10 with VLC
VLC is an open-source free program that you can free access to. Based on its introduction of how to merge videos, we have tested its capability of combining audio files, and it turns out to be feasible as well. Before we kick off, you need to make sure that all of your audio files have the file extension of .mp3. Otherwise, this method may not work for you. (Notice: if you have different formatted audio files such as .flac and .mp3, see the workaround.)
Step 1. Download and install VLC on your computer.
You are recommended to install VLC locally by its default route.
Step 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts
Win+X > click Command Prompt in the pop-up list.
Or, use the hotkey combination
Win+R to open Run >
type cmd in the box >
hit Enter
Then the Command Prompt will be opened as well.
Run Command Prompt
[Win+R] > cmd to run Command Prompt
Step 3. In the Command Prompt, enter the command: cd c:\mp3, then hit the Enter key.
- Sidenote: The c:\mp3 command is the file folder directory where your mp3 audio files are kept. If your audio files are kept on C disk, c:\ file location
Step 4: There will be c:\mp3> command already existing, copy and paste commands as follows:
"C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vv 1.mp3 2.mp3 --sout-keep --sout=#gather:transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128}:standard{access=file,mux=dummy,dst=combinedout.mp3}
- Sidenotes:
- 1. C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe command refers to the directory path where the VLC launching program is located in your Windows computer, which is also the default path of VLC setup. Change it if you've set a different destination path for your VLC installation.
- 2. The 1.mp3 2.mp3 command refers to the filename of your audio tracks. Customize the part based on your personal demands.
- 3. The combinedout.mp3 command refers to the file name of the combined file. You can change it to the one you like.
Reset password Change or reset your Windows password
Select Start >
Settings >
Accounts >
Sign-in options .
Under Password, select the Change button and follow the steps.
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Subtitle Editor
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Coding
https://github.com/mekhovov/Export-Posts-from-FB-2-LI-VK/blob/master/export_FB_2_LI_VK.rb
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merge 2 videos online
Adobe
https://express.adobe.com/tools/merge-videos/#
Quotes background maker
Delete portions of a page for printing
- Print Edit WE
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WiFi Keeps Disconnecting on Windows 10? Here’s the Fix
- Wi-Fi drops connection and available networks disappear
- Suggestion: Turn Bluetooth on or off in Windows
Install a Bandwidth Monitor On Your Computer
What's system interrupts high CPU usage in Windows 10
Change Rename Batch Files and Folders in Windows
4 Ways to Batch Rename Files in Windows (USE POWERSHELL)
https://www.maketecheasier.com/batch-rename-files-in-windows/
Rename files by matching partial name (power toys - doesnt work)
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General:
6 Ways to Rename Files and Folders in Windows 10
https://www.howtogeek.com/665514/6-ways-to-rename-files-and-folders-in-windows-10/
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
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- Open File Explorer by using key combination Windows Key + E and navigate to the folder you want to use as a source for view layout settings.
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- The Windows TaskBar
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QUICK LAUNCH open folder
[https://www.lifewire.com/add-quick-launch-toolbar-in-windows-10-5115231
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- File>Options>Advanced> [Show document content] section uncheck the box for "Show field codes instead of their values".
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HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
If the folder you want to open in Command Prompt is on your desktop or already open in File Explorer, you can quickly change to that directory.
Type cd followed by a space, DRAG AND DROP the folder into the window, and then press Enter. The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
INSTRUCTIONS:
0. Open Command Prompt
02: Copy and paste directory C:\Users\user\Desktop\STUFF
1. Type cd followed by a space,
2. drag and drop the folder into the window, and then
3. press Enter.
The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
- How to copy a list of file names in a folder to text file?
EXCELLENT!
use cmd.exe
type dir /b > dirlist.txt
More instructions may 2024
Command to list all files in a folder as well as sub-folders in
Follow these baby steps:
1. Press Windows + R.
2. Press Enter.
3. cmd.
4. Press Enter.
5. ch (name of directory) Example: C:\Users\**\Desktop\**\** 1994\1993 ** central **
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"change directory in cmd"
Open the Command Prompt (CMD) and type "cd" with a space, followed by the name of the directory,
or drag and drop the directory into CMD from File Explorer.
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TELEGRAM
Export Telegram Contacts
First, open Telegram and go to the Settings menu. Then, select the "Export Telegram Contacts" option.
...
Click on Advanced and then on Export Telegram Data.
Select the box “Contacts List” only.
Scroll down and click on EXPORT link (in HTML format.
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If you are using Chrome, then by default, the downloaded images and files are stored in the Downloads folder of your Windows PC. For other browsers, you can find the downloaded media and documents in the default download folder/directory.
You can also choose to save the WhatsApp images and files anywhere in your PC by changing the default download directory of your browser.
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On WhatsApp, Telegram desktop or web, you can use shift + enter for a newline.
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- Washington Post
- Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars?[4]
By John Tirman. January 6, 2012
The major wars the United States has fought since the surrender of Japan in 1945 — in Korea, Indochina, Iraq and Afghanistan — have produced colossal carnage. For most of them, we do not have an accurate sense of how many people died, but a conservative estimate is at least 6 million civilians and soldiers. |
As the United States officially ended the war in Iraq last month, President Obama spoke eloquently at Fort Bragg, N.C., lauding troops for “your patriotism, your commitment to fulfill your mission, your abiding commitment to one another,” and offering words of grief for the nearly 4,500 members of the U.S. armed forces who died in Iraq. He did not, however, mention the sacrifices of the Iraqi people.
This inattention to civilian deaths in America’s wars isn’t unique to Iraq. There’s little evidence that the American public gives much thought to the people who live in the nations where our military interventions take place. Think about the memorials on the Mall honoring American sacrifices in Korea and Vietnam. These are powerful, sacred spots, but neither mentions the people of those countries who perished in the conflicts.
The major wars the United States has fought since the surrender of Japan in 1945 — in Korea, Indochina, Iraq and Afghanistan — have produced colossal carnage. For most of them, we do not have an accurate sense of how many people died, but a conservative estimate is at least 6 million civilians and soldiers.
Our lack of acknowledgment is less oversight than habit, a self-reflective reaction to the horrors of war and an American tradition that goes back decades. We consider ourselves a generous and compassionate nation, and often we are. From the Asian tsunami in 2004 to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the Haiti earthquake in 2010, Americans have been quick to open their pocketbooks and their hearts.
However, when it comes to our wars overseas, concern for the victims is limited to U.S. troops. When concern for the native populations is expressed, it tends to be more strategic than empathetic, as with Gen. David H. Petraeus’s acknowledgment in late 2006 that harsh U.S. tactics were alienating Iraqi civilians and undermining Operation Iraqi Freedom. The switch to counterinsurgency, which involves more restraint by the military, was billed as a change that would save the U.S. mission, not primarily as a strategy to reduce civilian deaths.
The wars in Korea and Indochina were extremely deadly. While estimates of Korean War deaths are mainly guesswork, the three-year conflict is widely believed to have taken 3 million lives, about half of them civilians. The sizable civilian toll was partly due to the fact that the country’s population is among the world’s densest and the war’s front lines were often moving. The war in Vietnam and the spillover conflicts in Laos and Cambodia were even more lethal. These numbers are also hard to pin down, although by several scholarly estimates, Vietnamese military and civilian deaths ranged from 1.5 million to 3.8 million, with the U.S.-led campaign in Cambodia resulting in 600,000 to 800,000 deaths, and Laotian war mortality estimated at about 1 million.
Despite the fact that contemporary weapons are vastly more precise, Iraq war casualties, which are also hard to quantify, have reached several hundred thousand. In mid-2006, two household surveys — the most scientific means of calculating — found 400,000 to 650,000 deaths, and there has been a lot of killing since then. (The oft-cited Iraq Body Count Web site mainly uses news accounts, which miss much of the violence.) The war in Afghanistan has been far less violent than the others, with civilian and military deaths estimated at about 100,000.
The numbers can be confusing because some estimates include only those people killed by direct violence; others include deaths from “structural” violence — such as those resulting from a destroyed health-care system. That we do not have an official way of accounting for the dead is one sign of the uncaring attitudes that have accompanied our wars. It is difficult to obtain accurate mortality figures during wartime, but the best way might be to commission a consortium of public health schools — the most qualified institutions that study violence — to conduct household surveys every year. The lack of concern about those who die in U.S. wars is also shown by these civilians’ absence, in large part, from our films, novels and documentaries. The entertainment industry portrays these wars rarely and almost always with a focus on Americans.
A few nonprofit organizations have sprung up to deal with the wars’ victims — notably the Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict, a Washington-based group founded by Marla Ruzicka, an aid worker who was killed in Iraq in 2005. Such efforts rarely register with the American public, however.
Pollsters, meanwhile, have asked virtually no questions of the public about foreign casualties. But on the rare occasions when they do, the results have been striking. A 1968 Harris poll found 4 percent favored an end to the Vietnam war because of harm to civilians. A University of Michigan pollster concluded: “More and more Americans now think our intervention was a military mistake, and want to forget the whole thing.”
On Iraq, when an Associated Press survey asked Americans in early 2007 how many Iraqis had died in the war, the average of all answers was 9,890, when the actual number was probably well into the hundreds of thousands. In several polls in 2007 and 2008, Americans were asked whether we should withdraw troops even if it put Iraqis at risk of more civil unrest; a clear majority said yes.
Today there is virtually no support for helping rebuild Iraq or Afghanistan — no campaigns by large charities, no open doors for Iraqi refugees. Even Iraqis who worked with the American military are having trouble getting political asylum in the United States and face a risk of retribution at home. The U.S. response to so many dead, 5 million displaced and a devastated country is woefully dismissive.
Even civilian atrocities tend to fade quickly from view, or else become rallying points for the accused troops. My Lai, where about 400 Vietnamese were murdered by a U.S. Army unit in 1968, at first shocked the nation, but Americans quickly came to support Lt. William L. Calley Jr. — who was later found guilty of killing 22 villagers — and the others involved. More recently, eight Marines were charged in the 2005 Haditha massacre in Iraq, and none has been convicted. (The last defendant’s trial started this past week.) Indeed, each atrocity that fails to alter public opinion piles on to further prove American indifference.
Why the American silence on our wars’ main victims? Our self-image, based on what cultural historian Richard Slotkin calls “the frontier myth” — in which righteous violence is used to subdue or annihilate the savages of whatever land we’re trying to conquer — plays a large role. For hundreds of years, the frontier myth has been one of America’s sturdiest national narratives.
When the challenges from communism in Korea and Vietnam appeared, we called on these cultural tropes to understand the U.S. mission overseas. The same was true for Iraq and Afghanistan, with the news media and politicians frequently portraying Islamic terrorists as frontier savages. By framing each of these wars as a battle to civilize a lawless culture, we essentially typecast the local populations as the Indians of our North American conquest. As the foreign policy maven Robert D. Kaplan wrote on the Wall Street Journal op-ed page in 2004, “The red Indian metaphor is one with which a liberal policy nomenklatura may be uncomfortable, but Army and Marine field officers have embraced it because it captures perfectly the combat challenge of the early 21st century.”
Politicians tend to speak in broader terms, such as defending Western values, or simply refer to resistance fighters as terrorists, the 21st-century word for savages. Remember the military’s code name for the raid of Osama bin Laden’s compound? It was Geronimo.
The frontier myth is also steeped in racism, which is deeply embedded in American culture’s derogatory depictions of the enemy. Such belittling makes it all the easier to put these foreigners at risk of violence. President George W. Bush, to his credit, disavowed these wars as being against Islam, as has President Obama. Perhaps the most compelling explanation for indifference, though, taps into our beliefs about right and wrong. More than 30 years ago, social psychologists developed the “just world” theory, which argues that humans naturally assume that the world should be orderly and rational. When that “just world” is disrupted, we tend to explain away the event as an aberration. For example, when encountering a beggar on the street, a common reaction is indifference or even anger, in the belief that no one should go hungry in America.
This explains much of our response to the violence in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. When the wars went badly and violence escalated, Americans tended to ignore or even blame the victims. The public dismissed the civilians because their high mortality rates, displacement and demolished cities were discordant with our understandings of the missions and the U.S. role in the world.
These attitudes have consequences. Perhaps the most important one — apart from the tensions created with the host governments, which have been quite vocal in protesting civilian casualties — is that indifference provides permission to our military and political leaders to pursue more interventions.
There are costs to our global reputation as well: The United States, which should be regarded as a principal advocate of human rights, undermines its credibility when it is so dismissive of civilian casualties in its wars. Appealing for international action on Sudan, Syria and other countries may sound hypocritical when our own attitudes about civilians are so cold. Korean War historian Bruce Cumings calls this neglect the “hegemony of forgetting, in which almost everything to do with the war is buried history.”
Will we ever stop burying memories of war’s destruction? More attention to the human costs may jolt the American public into a more compassionate understanding. When we build the memorial for Operation Iraqi Freedom, let’s mention that Iraqi civilians were part of the carnage. Count them, and maybe we can start to recognize and remember the larger tolls of the wars we wage.
tirman@mit.edu
John Tirman, executive director and principal research scientist at the MIT Center for International Studies, is the author of “The Deaths of Others: The Fate of Civilians in America’s Wars.”
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- ↑ https://github.com/ideaguy3d
- ↑ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-do-we-ignore-the-civilians-killed-in-american-wars/2011/12/05/gIQALCO4eP_story.html
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Customize the taskbar notification area
How to create a quick launch toolbar on your Windows 10 taskbar
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- https://www.onmsft.com/how-to/how-to-create-a-toolbar-on-your-windows-10-taskbar
- https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-your-own-toolbar-for-the-windows-taskbar/
create-show-desktop-shortcut-windows
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Change Windows’ Default Download Path
Search in File Explorer in Windows 10
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Language change
clipboard
How to Save Multiple items to the Clipboard of Windows 10
show-file-extensions-windows-10
https://pureinfotech.com/show-file-extensions-windows-10/
How to use the Search tool in Windows 10 File Explorer
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Start button
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choose the options that work best for you.
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Firefox Need to get rid of "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/utbtdl/need_to_get_rid_of_importenterpriseroots
The two ways to lock a preference are:
(1) Enterprise Policy -- check about:policies
This can be done by dropping a file: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/customizing-firefox-using-policiesjson
(2) Autoconfig
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What is "ImportEnterpriseRoots" Certificate
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1306557
This is a pretty common question that gets asked here.
The ImportEnterpriseRoots policy is setup by a lot of security programs (antivirus, firewall, etc). Security programs often use this policy so that they can view incoming secure connections to check that the content is safe, without triggering error messages in Firefox.
That policy has no impact on what settings you will be able to use in Firefox. It will cause the "Your computer is being managed by your organization" warning message to appear on top of the settings page, but that's it.
Removing that policy from your computer often causes your security program to stop working and/or will cause issues in Firefox when loading some websites.
Hope this clears things up for you.
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Called Discussion button
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- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SvNrM8QW0 Youtube 2022
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scrape users in telegram
- https://exybot.com/telegram-kit-2-0/ expensive $250
Export telegram contacts on pc windows
How to Export Telegram Contacts and Group Members (PC)
Download and install Telegram for Windows/Mac on PC.
Launch Telegram on your PC and login to your account using Phone Number or QR code.
After successful login, it will take you to the Dashboard where you find the list of the conversations, here
- tap on the three lines icon at the top on PC.
- It will open a new menu with the list of options, select Settings.
- Next, click on Advanced as shown in the below image.
- Scroll down to the last and tap on the Export Telegram Data.
- After that, select the data you want to export from Telegram. Just select the Account Information and Contact list option.
- Scroll down and select the location where you want to download the data and select Human-readable HTML format. Tap on the Export.
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https://www.veed.io/send-video
VLC MEDIA PLAYER
ActivePresenter
Record screen with video.
Excellent! Downloaded from RuTracker.org August 28 2022 only 44 MB.
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6002607
How to Export ActivePresenter Projects to Videos
https://atomisystems.com/tutorials/export-activepresenter-projects-videos/
8 Best Screen Recorders for Windows 10 in 2022- Free & Paid
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Bulk converting audio files into one
DOESNT WORK
VSDC Pro Video Editor 7.1
RuTracker.ORG
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10 ways to bulk convert audio files into one
From: https://multimedia.easeus.com/video-editing-tips/audio-joiner.html#part3
3. Copy Command on Windows
Platform: Windows
Windows allows you to merge audio from the command prompt. Here is the command you can use is as follows:
copy /b *.mp3 c:\merged.mp3
The command above means it will find all MP3 files in the directory and join them into the merged.mp3 file.
If you want to add only a few files add them accordingly using a "+" sign in between.
- Pros
No need to install a software
The simplest way to merge audio files without losing quality
- Cons
Not possible to edit the files
No way to change the format of the output file
Cumbersome to use.
VLC
Source: https://www.videoproc.com/audio-editor/best-audio-mergers.htm
3. How to Merge MP3 Files on Windows 10 with VLC
VLC is an open-source free program that you can free access to. Based on its introduction of how to merge videos, we have tested its capability of combining audio files, and it turns out to be feasible as well. Before we kick off, you need to make sure that all of your audio files have the file extension of .mp3. Otherwise, this method may not work for you. (Notice: if you have different formatted audio files such as .flac and .mp3, see the workaround.)
Step 1. Download and install VLC on your computer.
You are recommended to install VLC locally by its default route.
Step 2. Use the keyboard shortcuts
Win+X > click Command Prompt in the pop-up list.
Or, use the hotkey combination
Win+R to open Run >
type cmd in the box >
hit Enter
Then the Command Prompt will be opened as well.
Run Command Prompt
[Win+R] > cmd to run Command Prompt
Step 3. In the Command Prompt, enter the command: cd c:\mp3, then hit the Enter key.
- Sidenote: The c:\mp3 command is the file folder directory where your mp3 audio files are kept. If your audio files are kept on C disk, c:\ file location
Step 4: There will be c:\mp3> command already existing, copy and paste commands as follows:
"C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vv 1.mp3 2.mp3 --sout-keep --sout=#gather:transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=128}:standard{access=file,mux=dummy,dst=combinedout.mp3}
- Sidenotes:
- 1. C:\PROGRAMFILES\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe command refers to the directory path where the VLC launching program is located in your Windows computer, which is also the default path of VLC setup. Change it if you've set a different destination path for your VLC installation.
- 2. The 1.mp3 2.mp3 command refers to the filename of your audio tracks. Customize the part based on your personal demands.
- 3. The combinedout.mp3 command refers to the file name of the combined file. You can change it to the one you like.
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Select Start >
Settings >
Accounts >
Sign-in options .
Under Password, select the Change button and follow the steps.
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GRAMFILE
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How do I switch between ink tank and cartridge on HP Ink 410 series ?
I want to disable the use of the ink cartridges completely.
Is there any articles or videos on how the HP ink cartridge works when there is tank? I wanted to buy a printer WITHOUT a ink cartridge. I did not realize there are two expensive to replace ink cartridges inside.
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How to Take Batch Screenshots or Screencaps in VLC Media Player
FEB 1, 2021
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How to Export WhatsApp Group Contacts to Excel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll26Ha2Xfs0&t=67s
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Subtitle Editor
Subtitle Edit
Overview
Subtitle Edit is a free (open source) editor for video subtitles - a subtitle editor :)
With SE you can easily adjust a subtitle if it is out of sync with the video in several different ways. You can also use SE for making new subtitles from scratch (do use the time-line/waveform/spectrogram) or translating subtitles.
For a list of features see below or check out the Subtitle Edit Help page. On my blog you can download latest beta version and read about/discuss new features.
Also, you can watch a few videos about installing and using Subtitle Edit.
Transfer import facebook to vk
Coding
https://github.com/mekhovov/Export-Posts-from-FB-2-LI-VK/blob/master/export_FB_2_LI_VK.rb
Convert audio m4a to video
https://www.freeconvert.com/m4a-to-mp4/download DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
RUSSIAN SITE https://online-audio-convert.com/ru/m4a-to-mp4/ DOESNT WORK ON YOUTUBE
kdenlive: crop a video
- kdenlive crop a video
- Click the zone start icon
- Click he zone end icon
- Right click the new zone and extract video
merge 2 videos online
Adobe
https://express.adobe.com/tools/merge-videos/#
Quotes background maker
Delete portions of a page for printing
- Print Edit WE
- To start editing the page:
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- select Print Edit WE > Start Editing on the context menu.
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WiFi Keeps Disconnecting on Windows 10? Here’s the Fix
- Wi-Fi drops connection and available networks disappear
- Suggestion: Turn Bluetooth on or off in Windows
Install a Bandwidth Monitor On Your Computer
What's system interrupts high CPU usage in Windows 10
Change Rename Batch Files and Folders in Windows
4 Ways to Batch Rename Files in Windows (USE POWERSHELL)
https://www.maketecheasier.com/batch-rename-files-in-windows/
Rename files by matching partial name (power toys - doesnt work)
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-rename-multiple-files-bulk-windows-10
General:
6 Ways to Rename Files and Folders in Windows 10
https://www.howtogeek.com/665514/6-ways-to-rename-files-and-folders-in-windows-10/
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
How to set a default Folder View for all folders in Windows 11/10
- Open File Explorer by using key combination Windows Key + E and navigate to the folder you want to use as a source for view layout settings.
- Windows 10, navigate to the View tab in ribbon baron the top and change the settings per your wish. You can change the layout and choose the folder details to display, add extra panes, adjust column width, etc.
- Once done with the changes, click Options to open the File Explorer Options, earlier called Folder Options. window.
- Finally, navigate to View tab in Folder Options window.
- Click/Tap on Apply to Folders button.\
Sections in a taskbar
- The Windows TaskBar
- The Start Button--Opens the menu.
- The Quick Launch bar--contains shortcuts to commonly used applications. ...
- The main Taskbar--displays icons for all open applications and files.
- The System Tray--contains the clock and icons for some of the programs running in the background.
Unpin a program on the taskbar
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/cant-unpin-or-remove-program-icons-from-windows-10-taskbar
QUICK LAUNCH open folder
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Enter %APPDATA%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\ into the navigation field at the top of the window, and press Enter. Click Select Folder. You now have a quick launch toolbar on your taskbar. However, it's on the right side, and the original quick launch was on the left.Aug 4, 2021
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show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
How to show blue links instead of { HYPERLINK link } in a document Word
To change a representation of hyperlinks in a document, do the following:
1. On the File tab, click the Options button:
Options in Word 2016
2. In the Word Options dialog box,
- on the Advanced tab,
- under Show document content,
- uncheck the Show field codes instead of their values checkbox:
Advanced tab in Word Options 2016 After clicking OK, all hyperlinks in the document will be shown as usual, as blue hyperlinks:
Hyperlink in Word 2016
- MICROSOFT WORD - get hyperlinks to show
- File>Options>Advanced> [Show document content] section uncheck the box for "Show field codes instead of their values".
YOUTUBE Add more channels to YouTube
Can You Have More Than One YouTube Channel? (January 21, 2021)
Visit your list of Channels, https://www.youtube.com/account
Click Create a new channel button.
Create a new channel button on YouTube
Give your new account a name, and then click Create.
New Brand Channel Create button on YouTube You'll immediately be taken to your new channel where you can customize your account and upload videos.
Screenshot program for laptop
LIGHTSHOT The fastest way to take a customizable screenshot
HOW TO GET FILE NAMES FOR ALL FILES IN A FOLDER
If the folder you want to open in Command Prompt is on your desktop or already open in File Explorer, you can quickly change to that directory.
Type cd followed by a space, DRAG AND DROP the folder into the window, and then press Enter. The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
INSTRUCTIONS:
0. Open Command Prompt
02: Copy and paste directory C:\Users\user\Desktop\STUFF
1. Type cd followed by a space,
2. drag and drop the folder into the window, and then
3. press Enter.
The directory you switched to will be reflected in the command line.
- How to copy a list of file names in a folder to text file?
EXCELLENT!
use cmd.exe
type dir /b > dirlist.txt
More instructions may 2024
Command to list all files in a folder as well as sub-folders in
Follow these baby steps:
1. Press Windows + R.
2. Press Enter.
3. cmd.
4. Press Enter.
5. ch (name of directory) Example: C:\Users\**\Desktop\**\** 1994\1993 ** central **
6. Type dir /b > dirlist.txt
7. Press Enter.
from search "get names of all files windows 10 in a folder":
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"change directory in cmd"
Open the Command Prompt (CMD) and type "cd" with a space, followed by the name of the directory,
or drag and drop the directory into CMD from File Explorer.
Press "Enter." Type "cd.." and press "Enter" to go back one directory.
SSL certificate
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Recording voice "on the fly"
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{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Article rescue squadron/Tabbed header|This=1}} {{Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Header}}
Welcome to WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron (ARS). Sometimes Wikipedia articles about notable topics exist in poor form, badly written, unsourced Template:Ndash but that is not sufficient in itself to remove them from the encyclopedia at Articles for Deletion. If an article is about an encyclopedic topic that has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, the article may simply need improvement.
A significant aspect of this project's focus is on articles that may be written in poor form, lack references or need improvement, yet are backed by reliable sources and are therefore likely worthy of a Wikipedia stand-alone article per Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Some writer may have worked hard on that article. Some reader can use that article. In reaching out to work with such writers and readers, the project can help to preserve worthwhile content in the encyclopedia.
The project works toward improving Wikipedia as a whole by cooperating together to improve deficient articles through editing to provide necessary sources, correcting inappropriate style or tone, cleaning up grammatical and layout problems, etcetera, with the overall goal of improving the encyclopedia.
Template:Article Rescue Squadron Code of Conduct
Scope Scope
Template:Shortcut Wikiproject Article rescue squadron's main focus is on Wikipedia articles that are perceived as actually being notable that are going through Articles for deletion (AfD), which may:
- Need references
- Be written poorly
- Lack information readily available
- Need cleaning up.
We also help rescue content in Wikipedia's main namespace (refer to Wikipedia: Namespace for more information) and other Daily deletion debates (XfD) processes, such as Miscellany for deletion (MfD) and Templates for discussion (TfD). See Articles & content for an overview.
ARS members may also be interested in rescuing articles listed at Wikipedia: Listing of possible copyright problems. These articles often cover notable topics. Evaluating the extent of such problems can be difficult, but thoroughly rewriting articles with problems identified as foundational has the additional benefit of helping WikiProject Copyright Cleanup.
Rescue list
A list of content for rescue consideration is located at this project's content rescue list.
28px How to contribute
The Article Rescue Squadron WikiProject is about editing and improving articles. ARS is no different from any of the hundreds of Wikiprojects in that we collaborate to improve Wikipedia. If everyone who cares about preserving important topics and removing unsuitable content reads one deletion discussion per day (or even one per week), the impact will benefit all of our readers. Moreover, reading through an article nominated for deletion and adding sources and rewriting the text to remove or reword unsuitable content can help other editors decide if the article should be kept or deleted.
Does ARS want to keep everything?
No. The project is not about making policy to ensure that nothing is deleted or casting keep votes in AfD discussions. The project ensures that articles that can be written to follow Wikipedia policies do not get deleted when they can be rescued through normal editing, which per WP:AFD means that it was not a good candidate for deletion. The Template:Tl and Template:Tl templates are sometimes all that's required for a rescue.
Wikipedia:Articles for DeletionTemplate:Spaced ndashwhy it's important to view
Every time an article is deleted the contributions that were made to it are lost, and then only Wikipedia administrators can access it, but they are not necessarily experts on the article's topic. After deletion, an article's content, value, and appropriateness can no longer be evaluated by the general public. In addition, the contributor who writes a poor article on a notable topic is likely to be inexperienced. If their first efforts are deleted, they may be discouraged and refrain from creating further articles, or even editing. Everyone starts somewhere, and we should encourage better writing and better articles. Good faith efforts to contribute should be met with encouragement to improve.
This makes Articles for Deletion (AfD) a very important place; one that deserves everyone's attention.
A common axiom is that "AFD is not cleanup". Wikipedia is a work in progress, and articles should not be deleted because no one has felt like cleaning them up yet. Remember, Wikipedia has no deadline. If there's good, sourceable content in the article, it should be preserved, developed and improved, not deleted. The Wikipedia policy of trying to correct problems in articles through editing improvements, expansion and adding reliable sources, located at Try to fix problems, is often more appropriate than the entire deletion of articles.
The question on whether a poor but improvable article ought to be deleted is a major point of contention, and has given rise to the wiki-philosophies immediatism and eventualism. The Article Rescue Squadron was highlighted in a July 2007 Wikipedia Signpost, and has grown with many processes to tag, track, and list tagged articles.
Articles proposed for deletion (prod)
Sometimes articles are proposed for deletion (prod, prodded) without being sent to AfD, some of which are notable per Wikipedia's General notability guideline.
- Refer to Category: Proposed deletion and Category: All articles proposed for deletion to browse these articles.
- You may wish to consider joining WP:PRODPATROL.
Rescuing drafts
Many new articles come to Wikipedia via the Articles for creation (AfC) process. Reviewers assess these contributions and either accept, decline or reject them. Declined drafts on notable subjects may be improved by the authors and resubmitted. In many cases, however, this does not happen and the drafts are essentially abandoned. Abandoned drafts are subject to deletion under WP:G13 after 6 months of inactivity. Since all this occurs in Draft: space and typically involves new editors, these deletions are largely invisible to the editing community.
You can help by reviewing drafts that will soon become eligible for deletion and improving them and submitting them for rereview at AfC.
- Drafts becoming eligible for G13 in a week from now
- Submissions that an editor feels may be able to be saved
- Quality submissions that an editor feels may be able to be saved
- All declined submissions - includes subcategories for various decline reasons
Tips to help rescue articles
- See also: ARS Guide to saving articles
- Familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's guidelines for topic notability and identifying reliable sources
- Read Wikipedia's Editing policy, including the policy What Wikipedia is not.
- Discuss issues regarding an individual article on that article's talk page, not on this project's talk page.
- Suggest an article nominated for deletion that you feel meets notability guidelines, or should be retained for other reasons, on this project's article rescue list page, for ARS consideration.
- Browse Articles for Deletion periodically, and consider improving articles that you feel meet notability guidelines.
- Read Wikipedia:Guide to deletion for more tips.
Source searches
In addition to below, placing Template:Tl at the top of a Talk page now includes the "Find Sources".
Template:Col-begin Template:Col-break
Article Rescue checklist
Here's a quick checklist of 10 steps anyone can take for articles that need rescue:
- Find and add reliable sourcesTemplate:Spaced ndashIt is most important that sources demonstrating the notability of a subject are added to articles when they are found. Do it properly, using the correct citation templates.
- Add WikiProjectsTemplate:Spaced ndashView article talk pages to see if appropriate WikiProject banners have been added (this list of banners maybe be easier to browse). WikiProject banners help draw attention to articles from editors who are interested in the subject, especially if the project subscribes to Article Alerts. You don't need anyone's permission to add relevant WikiProject banners to article talk pages.
- Solicit WikiProject inputTemplate:Spaced ndashMany articles needing rescue merely need attention from an expert on the subject. A short note on a WikiProject talk page seeking expert attention can bring remarkable results fast.
- Take the time to strengthen the Lead sectionTemplate:Spaced ndashThe lead sets the tone for the rest of an article. Take the time to rewrite or improve the lead so that an article's title and its contents are in sync. Nothing detracts more from an otherwise notable subject than a lead that inadequately conveys what an article is about.
- Clean-up articlesTemplate:Spaced ndashIf an article about an otherwise notable subject has a bunch of unorganized content on the page, it is best to clean it up on the spot and bring it up to par with the Manual of Style guidelines. Some examples of clean-up include copy editing, wikifying (adding internal links, interwiki links and external links), correcting spelling, grammar and typographical errors, converting poorly formatted references with proper citation templates and adding relevant sections.
- Add Infoboxes, Navigation Templates and sidebarsTemplate:Spaced ndashIf they are not present in articles and their addition is appropriate, do so and complete their fields as much as possible.
- De-orphan articlesTemplate:Spaced ndashLink and cross-reference articles with other articles, lists and categories. Make sure articles have internal links that link to other appropriate, highly related articles, which helps to clarify and expound upon information. If it is difficult to incorporate links within the text of an article, the See also section is an appropriate place to list links for related articles. Look for sources and content in related articles that might enhance orphaned articles. Utilizing the "What links here" feature in the Toolbox pull-down menu in the left column of Wikipedia pages provides a list of pages that link to an article.
- Eliminate the junkTemplate:Spaced ndashIf there is unsourced or irrelevant content, copyright violations, or other "junk" in articles, eliminate it ruthlessly. If there is a question about the validity of content, start a discussion on the talk page and tag questionable content with template messages as necessary. Don't just ignore the "junk" if its there. Conversely, it's very important to preserve appropriate content Template:Ndash as long as any of the facts or ideas added to an article would belong in a "finished" article. For more information, please refer to Try to fix problems.
- Treat articles as if they were your best achievementsTemplate:Spaced ndashMake changes to articles that will turn them into articles that you would be proud of personally. We know how to do it, we just need to do it.
- Positively engage new editorsTemplate:Spaced ndashWhen you find that an article has been created by a new editor (maybe their first one) or by inexperienced editors, engage them in a positive, mentoring way. Help them learn how to create and contribute better content. Engage them on their talk pages, encourage them, and most importantly make them feel welcome. If there are policy or guideline issues on the table, don't just refer them to a policy link; engage them in a discussion to ensure they better understand how to make quality contributions. Make sure the editor knows that merging and userfication are alternatives to deletion. Even if an article is ultimately lost, this positive engagement will help us all by encouraging new contributors to make useful, productive edits.
Books Articles and content
Articles
- For current articles nominated for deletion, see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/{{#time:Y F j}}|Today's AfD log]] (from Wikipedia: Articles for deletion).
- For a list of all deletion debates opened on a daily basis, see XfD today
- For a list of deletion discussion pages, see Deletion process
- For a search engine to find deletion discussions by topic, see Search all deletion discussions.
- For a general guide to creating articles, see Wikipedia: Your first article.
Articles currently tagged for deletion
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Articles currently proposed for deletion
- Category: Proposed deletion and Category: All articles proposed for deletion
- See also: Articles for deletion/Old/Open AfDsTemplate:Spaced ndashArticles for deletion discussions that have finished their discussion period and are eligible to be closed following the deletion process.
All articles proposed for deletion |
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Biographies of living persons
- Article Rescue Squadron – Biographies of living persons
- [[Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/BLP volunteers|Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:Spaced ndashBLP rescue volunteers]]
Many articles have been deleted as Biographies that had been flagged for years as unsourced. The administrators who deleted them have stated that the restoration of these articles is acceptable, provided that any restored articles are then properly sourced and made fully compliant with WP:BLP (Biographies of living persons). For some background information, see here. BLP articles that are properly sourced will simply be restored, along with their talk pages.
To volunteer to reference one or more of the articles that have recently been deleted as unreferenced BLPs, see ARS BLP volunteers.
Article restoration
- Further information: Viewing and restoring deleted pages
Article userfication
- See also: Userfication essay
- Requests for undeletionTemplate:Spaced ndashIf an article has already been deleted but you intend to improve it, you can request that it be moved into your user namespace at Requests for undeletion. Another option is to ask any of the administrators on this list who will userfy articles for editors.
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Articles with topics of unclear notability
- Category:Articles with topics of unclear notabilityTemplate:Spaced ndashlists topics that are unclear regarding their notability.
Articles with topics of unclear notability |
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Content
Files for discussion
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- Deleting a well-written, well-sourced article on the basis of what Wikipedia is not can reduce the total information of Wikipedia.
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- The Charms of Wikipedia in The New York Review of Books Template:PaywallTemplate:Spaced ndash includes information about article rescue, by Article Rescue Squadron veteran Nicholson Baker
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interested
I would like to register my interest for signing up to the ARS (Article Rescue Squadron). I have been a long time user of Wikipedia and various other Wikimedia Projects, but have just signed up for an account. To kick off my Wiki life, I would like to join the ARS to slowly ascend the Wikipedian hierarchial ladder.
I would just like to say that I personally stand for a complete Wikipedia, and am therefore vehemently opposed to misguided deletion of worthy articles.
I encourage any other dedicated Wikipedians to join the resistance against a plague that, left untreated, may prove itself to be Wikipedia's "Achilles' heel".
~Queer As Folk~
add Articles for Review to the mix?
I posted about this just now to wiki-en: I'd like to see a less bad-faith and more friendly review process as the first point of triage when someone sees something they don't like. Not like cleanup; with a clear timeout for a process and discussion; but focusing the conversation on "what do we do with this and how?" rather than "should we delete this and why?". One of the outcomes of AFR would be sending the article to AFD, which would figure out how much consideration to give the author, what to do with the resulting orphaned talk page and history and inbound links, whether to salt the earth or allow recreation, &c. Thoughts? +sj + 17:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think this could be a good idea, but I worry about practical implementation. There is a lot of schlock on WP:AFD that really does need to be deleted, and this would have the effect of backing that up to hell. On the other hand, a culture change that switched the focus away from "fix or delete!" to "what do we do with this?" would be fantastic, and this would be a way of implementing that. Rebecca 23:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- Rebecca, I agree that most of what's on AfD should still be deleted. But I think just us checking in on AfD can make a big difference. Since you need an overwhelming consensus to delete, one Keep vote needs two or more Delete votes to negate. So even a few of use Keep'ing will help. Today's appalling examples include Conservapedia, Russophobia, Daniel DiLorenzo (winner of an MIT prize and founder of a company). Just us chiming in with our view on keep/delete will help. -- Fuzheado | Talk 02:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, that's absolutely true. That's why I'm here (and like others, this was partly provoked by your blog post). I'm just not sure that Sj's solution would necessarily help things. Rebecca 02:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- yes, my friends, another step or another procedure would make things worse. Whether in deleting stuff that needs it, or keeping things from deletion, the existing procedure is cumbersome enough. What is needed is greater participation from interested people--greater intelligent and helpful participation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DGG (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}}}.
- I definitely think that Wikipedia has become more of a totalitarian community above all else, and I think this must end now. Andrew Lih's blog entry was curiously thought-provoking. I look forward to working with you to return Wikipedia to the state it was in a few years ago in its heyday, before civil unrest broke out among the community members, and unnecessary deletion became the norm. I concur that the AfD legislation has become over-the-top and is leading to confusion and unnecessary deletion. --Queer As Folk 12:18, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
General Suggestions
- and let me make a suggestion that here is a difference between improving articles that can be improved, and a defense of the impossible. Nobody at AfD objects to improving articles. Those most eager to delete an apparently unjustified piece of self-advertisement are very glad to change their mind, and acknowledge a good article. But improve it right: read WP:RS. Learn to use google effectively and patiently--I have saved many articles by checking through hundreds of ghits until I found a really good one.
- perhaps you will allow me to make some practical suggestions based on a certain amount of experience there (The people contributing here already know this, by and large, but it may help to put things together)
- one demonstrates one's good faith by objectivity. There have been a few people coming to afd and voting to keep almost everything, or to delete almost everything. They do not help things, and either learn how to contribute effectively, or soon leave. Don't try to contribute to everything--pick a few articles on things you know about, and read the article and the article history before you start.
- I'm implicated in that; I'll make some effort to argue for deletion when it's warranted. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 05:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I must say that I am somewhat biased towards the whole deletion fiasco. I believe that so long as an article meets the minimum standards of Wikipedia, it should stay there for the sake of wholeness and completeness; who are we to say what or will not be useful? Of course, the content must be encyclopaedic yadda yadda yadda... but I take the "the more articles the better" approach, as it makes Wikipedia a more useful source, but reliability is of course a major factor, so I am completely and utterly for the imrovement of articles. --Queer As Folk 12:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm implicated in that; I'll make some effort to argue for deletion when it's warranted. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 05:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- One further demonstrates one's objectivity by participating in deletion. Many bad and unimprovable articles articles escape New Pages: go there and look not at just the latest, but at ones a few thousand pages back, and nominate for the appropriate process: Read, understand, and follow WP:Deletion policy.
- AfD really is not a pure vote--despite occasional aberrations, closing admins almost always do look at the arguments, not count. Arguments on either side without a basis in policy and a knowledge of the facts are generally ignored. There is no point in showing up and saying "me too." It does not impress anyone to say "per whoever". If you can say why, that is what makes a difference. It's necessary to know the policies, not just as written on the policy pages, but as currently discussed on their talk pages, and as actually applied at AfD. Learn WP:N in particular, and its subpages. See what arguments work, and which do not. Follow the existing policy; there's no point in acting in opposition to it. Rather, try to affect the way it is interpreted and applied, and learn enough about how things work to propose desirable changes.
- And please recognize that anyone who is literally a pure deletionist or inclusionist does not understand reality. Most of us have interests in different things, and we get by by accommodating each other. To work in a wiki needs a willingness to compromise.
- Whoever loses their temper first, will lose the argument. If an opponent is not acting in good faith, there is no need to say so--just concentrate on the article. The merits of the case will appear readily enough.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DGG (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}}}.
- Addendum: To reiterate my gripe (which I've posted about elsewhere) in new language, arguments for deletion ought to be as jargon-free as possible. We fought this battle a year or two ago, when the use/abuse of "N.N. Delete" (an abbreviation for "not notable. Delete") as the sole reason for nomination was at last seriously discredited as a reason for deletion. If you want to nominate an article for deletion, just stating that it violates policy $INSERT_YOUR_FAVORITE_ABBREVIATION_HERE doesn't cut it. Explain why the article is (for example) a hoax, a vanity listing, or obviously not notable. Otherwise, I may lose my temper for good, & seriously propose that anyone who does this should be indefinitely blocked from Wikipedia until that person writes a 5,000 word essay explaining that they actually understand the policy, & how it applies to the article in question. </rant> -- llywrch 18:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, this is but one example of how those who believe themselves to be "elite" abuse language in an effore to both make themselves seem superior and to confuse others so that they will not retaliate. --Queer As Folk 12:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Amen, llywrch. If only. Rebecca 23:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, this is but one example of how those who believe themselves to be "elite" abuse language in an effore to both make themselves seem superior and to confuse others so that they will not retaliate. --Queer As Folk 12:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
An additional option
I will be happy to help out here when I have time -- I think this is a very good, level-headed approach to the occasional bout of trigger-happiness on AFD.
I just wanted to make sure editors here are aware of one new option that has become available for well-written text about to undergo the Notability axe. The Annex (http://annex.wikia.com/) is a place that accepts any Wikipedia text that is going to be lost in page histories due to deletion or redirecting. It's especially sensitive to the extensive work on fiction (books, tv, comics, gaming) articles that are being gutted by recent policy. Those policies aren't necessarily bad -- an encyclopedia doesn't need in-depth detail on every aspect of every TV character ever -- but it is a shame to throw away or bury a lot of painstakingly developed and freely licensed text when there are other more specialized wikis out there that would be delighted to have it. The Annex will accept copied or exported text, ensure that the source is properly attributed, remove template formatting that's not necessary outside of Wikipedia, and then make an effort to find a home for the material in one of Wikia's 3,000 wikis, or in other free content repositories on the web.
I hope that this project can do a lot to keep worthy material in Wikipedia, but when it's worthy but doesn't belong here, please remember to use or recommend The Annex instead. Thanks! — Catherine\talk 07:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think that this is neither here nor there. I could care less about where content goes if it has to be deleted from Wikipedia, but the last thing I want to see is good content from Wikipedia being dumped because "oh, there's somewhere else we can put it". Rebecca 07:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- There is also a need for a place to preserve text that people do not have time to work on until such time as they do. This is somewhat different from the purposes of the project mentioned. It remains available of course in the various web archives, and it is also available to administrators. I and most admins are generally willing to restore and userify any potentially worthy article that people may in good faith want to work on. If it is not being worked on, it is not appropriate to userify it, but almost any material can be emailed. DGG (talk) 07:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree with Rebecca -- sending content somewhere is infinitely better than deleting it. Even if deleted content is preserved on the server, for the average reader there is very little indication that it was ever there -- sometimes no indication at all. For all intents, the information has disappeared down a black hole.
- We just have to make sure that things are transparent: that anyone who might have come across the deleted article instead comes across a notice pointing to where it has moved to, that the authors are notified so they know where to find their work. And there also needs to be some sort of standardized mechanism for moving worthy content back from the annex (or wherever) to Wikipedia. That's all a little beyond the scope of the Rescue Squadron as it currently stands, but this is as good a place to talk about it as any. (And anyway, the project is a wiki page: if you think it's scope should be broader, be bold.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 08:26, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't disagree with you there - my point is that I'd rather it not be moved off Wikipedia at all if it is notable, and I don't want to see the existence of some extremely low-traffic dumping ground being used as an argument to increase the amount of notable stuff we're alraedy losing. Rebecca 10:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Rebecca completely -- I don't want this to be an excuse or a lever for deleting more information. I would just like to be sure that the people who work on the Rescue Squadron -- people who are by definition concerned about the deletion of good content -- are aware of this option when the tide of deletion is going against hard work that should not be lost. First priority should absolutely be referencing, rewriting, copyediting, and whatever else it takes to ensure that information that belongs here is kept, as this project page describes. However, there are some good articles that are being merged, redirected and occasionally deleted outright because they don't meet Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) or other notability guidelines -- in other words, not because someone hasn't worked hard enough on it, but because people have decided it doesn't belong here. Most pages touched by this project won't fit that, because we will be working to save the ones that do belong, but if we're looking at AfD anyway it's good to let people know about The Annex where it's needed. — Catherine\talk 05:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- While transferring these articles to another place is "infinitely better" than deleting it, as you put it, I think that a lot of content is being deleted nowadays that should stay right here on Wikipedia. Afterall, surely a user would rather have too much rather than too little. No? --Queer As Folk 11:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I do think that there are specific reasons that places where wikipedia articles might go are extremely low traffic, and that those reasons can be fixed. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 16:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Rebecca completely -- I don't want this to be an excuse or a lever for deleting more information. I would just like to be sure that the people who work on the Rescue Squadron -- people who are by definition concerned about the deletion of good content -- are aware of this option when the tide of deletion is going against hard work that should not be lost. First priority should absolutely be referencing, rewriting, copyediting, and whatever else it takes to ensure that information that belongs here is kept, as this project page describes. However, there are some good articles that are being merged, redirected and occasionally deleted outright because they don't meet Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) or other notability guidelines -- in other words, not because someone hasn't worked hard enough on it, but because people have decided it doesn't belong here. Most pages touched by this project won't fit that, because we will be working to save the ones that do belong, but if we're looking at AfD anyway it's good to let people know about The Annex where it's needed. — Catherine\talk 05:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't disagree with you there - my point is that I'd rather it not be moved off Wikipedia at all if it is notable, and I don't want to see the existence of some extremely low-traffic dumping ground being used as an argument to increase the amount of notable stuff we're alraedy losing. Rebecca 10:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Userfying or moving to a "rewrite area" of a WikiProject is usually the best option here. As long as you deactivate the categories and inline link fair-use images, and don't just forget about the article, then the material is usually fine. Once it has been rewritten and referenced, it can be moved back into main article space. If you don't have time to work on something and it is not yet suitable for public consumption, you can even blank the page to avoid search engines finding it. But obviously, working on something and getting it back out there will (a) improve it due to input from other Wikipedians and (b) allow our readers to read the article. It used to be that such improvement from even awful articles took place "out in the open", but now the culture at AfD seems to be "delete" instead of "improve". Carcharoth 12:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The disincentives to working on articles at AfD
There are some disincentives to working on articles at AfD that I would like to see addressed before carrying out this kind of work. I like to be able to review my edits and look back at articles I've worked on and watch their progress. This is not possible once an article has been deleted. The edits I made vanish from my contributions history (they are still there, but not made public). The other disincentive is that sometimes I feel the best solution is to redirect an article, but that often disrupts the progress of an AfD. While an AfD is in progress, it is possible to carry out a rewrite to demonstrate progress with an article, but how can you demonstrate at AfD the potential of carrying out a merger and redirect? Carcharoth 12:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe just do the merge, and hold off on the redirect? As far as disincentives -- yeah, that kind of sucks. But hence the rescue squadron metaphor: we're trying to change things by taking actions that are risky (for our edit counts) and inconvenient. (These disincentives are part of the reason I think it's not such a bad solution to move articles instead of deleting them, if it's done right.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 06:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
systemic bias
This is great. Just wondering if any of you guys also work on countering systemic bias. Any help is appreciated. Wl219 21:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know about the rest of the folks here, but I have been known to type an article or two related to Ethiopia -- one of the items promoted by that project. But whether one of us are a part of that or not is mostly irrelevant to the goals of this project -- or almost any other WikiProject: we're here to expand free access to knowledge & learning, & what Tlogmer has proposed is Just Another Way to advance that goal. We all contribute in our own ways; remember that & respect that, & you'll understand the wiki way. -- llywrch 04:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Some thoughts on improving AfD process
I've long thought AfD was not the best way of reviewing borderline articles, especially the more technical or specialist ones. There seem to me to be several ways in which the process could be improved:
- Somehow forcing AfD nominators to provide a decent rationale. "NN Delete" is still unfortunately in evidence.
- More, quicker indexing to specialist subpages. The current efforts are extremely useful, but items tend to get included on a hit-or-miss basis, and often only after several days at AfD when previous commenters may have stopped watching the page.
- Notifying relevant WikiProjects. In my experience, this often this results in an informed decision on what to do with the article.
- More complete guidelines on what constitutes notability in some areas. For example, I've found WP:PROF is only any use in the most extreme cases.
- Publicising other ways of dealing with problematic articles, such as tagging for referencing, notability, copy edit, merge &c&c. So many of the articles I see at AfD really shouldn't be there. Espresso Addict 03:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I would agree with the majority of those points, particularly on rationales. One thing I would like to see is an expansion and simplification of the things to do before nominating an AfD as it's just a little on the heavy side now. You could almost break it down into a check-list of items that could be used by less experienced editors to help reduce the afd flow. For example, have relevant cleanup tags been used and have they been place for a reasonable period of time? Was the creating user notified about the concerns? Has a relevant project been notified? Have you made a reasonable effort to look for sources to assist with notability, or worked with someone who can assist you in doing this? This might go some way to stem the problem at the very least. Thewinchester (talk) 04:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'd agree with this. I get the impression some relatively inexperienced editors working on eg new page patrol don't really understand that deletion borderline enough to need AfD should be a last resort, not a first. Espresso Addict 04:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I also would agree with this. I have only ever participated in one AfD of an article - Out Now Consulting where certain users, like me, with little experience but interested in keeping it, also participated, but after what became a very heated set of arguments (I can certainly admit to getting really frustrated myself then) it was deleted. Some participants also wanting to keep did seem to me to be much more experienced than I was, but I was worried at the time it was against some policy to ask for help about trying to widen the scope of people looking at the article, and tried once at that time but got no response so thought better of it. What would have helped most was if there was some independent party who I could have got to help with the process of identifying what secondary sources were notable and how to include them to edit the article during the AfD. But i could not think how to do it. So tried myself and obviously failed. I also don't think all the things mentioned above were necessarily followed to the letter in that article's deletion. But there was lot of jargon flying around that was, for me, quite bewildering and isolating. I had an overwhelming feeling of helplessness as some people that were pushing for delete seemed much more experienced, and to know each other and the AfD process very well, and I really had wished there was somewhere that I could have turned to ask advice as I felt there was enough in that article to clean it up and make it notable. I tried but I just do not have enough editing experience to feel confident with it. Especially when the people pushing for delete were highly skilled at using policies and guidelines that I found myself trying to learn on the fly. The whole experience was draining and I have since had less appetite for WP as a result, but am trying to learn more and stick with it. Anything positive that happens here would be great if there was a way for more inexperienced users to seek advice in AfD discussions from more experienced users without falling foul of WP:CANVASS. I know too (now!) about the existence of a WP:DRV process but as a pretty unskilled WP user, the thought of going down that road is too much after how aggressive I thought the one AfD I participated in became - with what felt to me like a 'battle' between keep and delete sides breaking out, and I dread the thought of that happening again. "Be bold" yes, but I thought what happened there was beyond that. I like the idea of AfD being used only as a last resort and with the key *first* emphasis being to constructively try to improve an article, rather than being made an aggressive battleground from the very nomination, then degenerating almost immediately into two sides just fighting each other to 'win' over whether to delete or keep. It could be that other ways already exist on WP to seek input from experienced editors to help people like me trying to improve an article during such a difficult AfD process, but this WP:RESCUE group caught my eye, so maybe it could do so for other inexperienced editors too and provide some acceptable mechanism for people like me feeling all at sea during an WP:AFD. JeffStryker 10:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- to help with the process of identifying what secondary sources were notable - after some IRC chat, I've been looking at some ways to help fix that. Right now I'm thinking of just setting up a wiki on Wikia that will entirely be links; ie, you go there, you type in 'example.com', and it will cough back pros and cons people have had working with the site; is it reliable, do they move articles after to an archive after a period, does it appear to be neutral but it's actually funded by an oil cartel, etc. Secondary to that, there would be a link submission section - so that companies who want to avoid COI, but believe that they have information that Wikipedians could want but have no idea where it might be, because they don't quite 'get' how to use wikipedia, could submit a URL with a brief description and then just tag it with a subject or two. The submitted links could still be reviewed. Then when people are working on a page and they need more info on something, they could go to this Wikia, search for a subject or a site, and find out if other people have assessed the site as a reliable source or not. This is still in a really 'feeling it out' stage, and I'd love input. --Thespian 11:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I also would agree with this. I have only ever participated in one AfD of an article - Out Now Consulting where certain users, like me, with little experience but interested in keeping it, also participated, but after what became a very heated set of arguments (I can certainly admit to getting really frustrated myself then) it was deleted. Some participants also wanting to keep did seem to me to be much more experienced than I was, but I was worried at the time it was against some policy to ask for help about trying to widen the scope of people looking at the article, and tried once at that time but got no response so thought better of it. What would have helped most was if there was some independent party who I could have got to help with the process of identifying what secondary sources were notable and how to include them to edit the article during the AfD. But i could not think how to do it. So tried myself and obviously failed. I also don't think all the things mentioned above were necessarily followed to the letter in that article's deletion. But there was lot of jargon flying around that was, for me, quite bewildering and isolating. I had an overwhelming feeling of helplessness as some people that were pushing for delete seemed much more experienced, and to know each other and the AfD process very well, and I really had wished there was somewhere that I could have turned to ask advice as I felt there was enough in that article to clean it up and make it notable. I tried but I just do not have enough editing experience to feel confident with it. Especially when the people pushing for delete were highly skilled at using policies and guidelines that I found myself trying to learn on the fly. The whole experience was draining and I have since had less appetite for WP as a result, but am trying to learn more and stick with it. Anything positive that happens here would be great if there was a way for more inexperienced users to seek advice in AfD discussions from more experienced users without falling foul of WP:CANVASS. I know too (now!) about the existence of a WP:DRV process but as a pretty unskilled WP user, the thought of going down that road is too much after how aggressive I thought the one AfD I participated in became - with what felt to me like a 'battle' between keep and delete sides breaking out, and I dread the thought of that happening again. "Be bold" yes, but I thought what happened there was beyond that. I like the idea of AfD being used only as a last resort and with the key *first* emphasis being to constructively try to improve an article, rather than being made an aggressive battleground from the very nomination, then degenerating almost immediately into two sides just fighting each other to 'win' over whether to delete or keep. It could be that other ways already exist on WP to seek input from experienced editors to help people like me trying to improve an article during such a difficult AfD process, but this WP:RESCUE group caught my eye, so maybe it could do so for other inexperienced editors too and provide some acceptable mechanism for people like me feeling all at sea during an WP:AFD. JeffStryker 10:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'd agree with this. I get the impression some relatively inexperienced editors working on eg new page patrol don't really understand that deletion borderline enough to need AfD should be a last resort, not a first. Espresso Addict 04:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think noting the article is at AfD at relevant WikiProjects would count as canvassing, and would tend to accumulate experienced editors with a knowledge of policies and favourable in principle to the type of article. Espresso Addict 12:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
A call for unreason?
See Wikipedia:Requests for verification ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I find this knee-jerk reaction to anything mentioning a possible deletion distasteful, and proves to me the "wild-eyed inclusionist" attitudes that members of this project seem to embody, despite the warnings of the founder. ARS and this proposed project are not opposites, they are partners. If RFV is a concentrated effort to bring attention and force the verification of articles, then it's doing a favor for those who don't want to see articles deleted for a lack of sources by making a handy list of articles for ARS to work on. And it should keep articles simply needing cleanup and sourcing from being brought before AFD at all. VanTucky (talk) 04:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Not a "knee-jerk" reaction, and I am not an "inclusionist". Check my deletion log. For the record. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- RFV cannot force verification of articles in a manner that is detrimental to the project. Putting a 30 day notice on articles and an automatic deletion is not the way to build an encyclopedia that is written by occasional contributors. Most of the content in Wikipedia is added by such people that do not know our policies. It is our responsibility as editors to find sources, not to summarily delete articles. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 05:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- As a highly inexperienced wikipedian, I could not agree more.JeffStryker 11:05, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Heck VanTucky, you've come across me in enough AfD debates. You know full well that I'm nowhere near an inclusionist, and lean more towards deletionist. This group seems to be encouraging more sensable application of the AfD processes and helping to provide clearer guidelines for what should be improved, avoiding (but still knowing when to nomination an article for) deletion. Thewinchester (talk) 06:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- all he cleanup projects should b moving towards the same goal. The only thing that should really remain undecided is where we want to set the bar for different types of articles--we may never settle that sort of question, but otherwise we should all be able to agree on what a good article is and work toward it. If the different projects start working in opposition to each other the result will be worse than when we started, & set back all ateempts to improve. DGG (talk) 07:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Copyvio speedies - remove content rather than delete?
Leeds Town Hall has had an interesting history: there obviously has to be an article about this architecturally-important grade 1 listed building, but over the years two separate texts have been copyvio-d to create it (timeline at Talk:Leeds Town Hall). It was nominated for Speedy deletion on 13 July 2007 and deleted a few hours later: article, history, talk... all gone, leaving no trace of what had happened except that it had been deleted for copyvio. The person who deleted it has now restored the history so we can see what has happened, and can also retrieve Categories etc from last week's version. But yesterday, anyone looking at the page would have seen a small newly-created article and no indication (even in the history) that an earlier article had ever existed. And a couple of days ago, there were a host of red links pointing to this non-existent article. This can't be right, surely? If an article is on a topic which merits an article (and especially when it has had a number of good faith edits, albeit working on a basically copyvio text, and Categories), then surely copyvio text should be deleted, leaving the article as a stub with a history, rather than wiping out the entire article. (A warning about the Speedy delete nomination was placed on the user talk page of the anonymous user who created the page in Dec 2004, and who has not been active since 2005).
Have gone into this at a bit of length as it seems a category of article rescue which might be considered: rescue/retain the existence of the article (and categories, links, lead sentence) as a stub even if the rest is deleted as copyvio. PamD 10:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- This would probably require rewriting or gutting WP:CSD G12, essentially taking copyvio out of the realm of speedy. What if when blatant non-fair-use copyvio is spotted, replace the text with a giant copyvio tag and semi-protect the article? This way no content is lost in the long term and established editors can go in through the history to separate out the free and non-free content. Wl219 11:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Random Essayage
I was just looking at the essay pages, and I came across WP:OSTRICH, aka 'Don't Be an Ostrich'. It has a good and concise set of rules that I often find people nominating things for deletion have not taken the time to do; about half of the AfDs I've voted on this last month (not counting the stuff DGG was straightening out) was stuff that was fixed in under 15 minutes by following these rules.
A mindset core that I think needs to be changed is to disabuse people of the idea that they need to 'defend' Wikipedia against bad additions, and instead re-introduce the basic idea that we're here to actually *build* an encyclopedia. While deletion is absolutely necessary, every page that gets removed is a small amount of damage to the body of Wikipedia. Now, sometimes, the damage needs to be done; I mean, removing an appendix is also no doubt damaging to the body of a person, but sometimes, that bad boy just has to go. But that doesn't mean that the damage shouldn't be minimized, as much as possible. Almost every single person who joins Wikipedia joins because they use it a couple times, and then they see something to add, and they do so. Everyone starts out adding, and I think stressing that part of why people came here, and what they can do now that they really have the skills will help.
I'd also like to suggest we offer a 'Baker's Dozen' challenge to people who we see are nominating a lot of deletions; and ask that for every dozen articles they nominate for deletion, they make an effort to save one; in other words, to commit to trying to save 1 out of every 13 articles. If, after an effort is clearly made, it's still not salvageable, that's perfectly fine; the idea is just to pull the reins up and keep people from getting too heavily into pasting delete tags. --Thespian 11:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- How ironic that this essay was nominated for deletion. Too many Wikipedians believe that when a policy or essay is no longer immediately relevant it should be deleted. Maybe history is bunk. -- llywrch 19:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- The various "historical" or "rejected" tags should be used instead. People seem to think that deletion is not deletion. In fact, the ability to undelete later should not be assumed, especially years later. I often quote what Brion Vibber said here: "Deletion means deletion. The deleted page archives ARE TEMPORARY TO FACILITATE UNDELETION OF PAGES WHICH SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DELETED and are subject to being cleared or removed AT ANY TIME WITHOUT WARNING". That should always be borne in mind. Carcharoth 10:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I've got a mini-essay about "Deletion vs the construction of an encyclopedia" on my user page. Mathmo Talk 03:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
A Gift!
hope people like it. I have an urge to do one like an old-style 70s cop show promo ad, too.--Thespian 13:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- What is the meaning of the rope? how about without the rope.:Dc76\talk 18:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Aren't all life preservers equipped with a rope? The standard/stereotype image of a life preserver is often adorned with one. Maybe it's a US/UK thing... -- llywrch 19:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- indeed; search for life preservers on Google Images, and you won't find one *without* rope. When I did it without rope, it looked like a deranged wikipedian Saturn, not a life preserver. (in other words, the life preserver is improved by retaining all the information possible to it, including the rope ;-) ) --Thespian 22:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- ok-ok. Deranged Saturn did cross my mind. Ok, I just thought you gave to the rope some additional meaning. Anyway, forget it. I do like the logo. Except where is the word "article"? Are we rescuing everyone and everywhere? :-) Even inside WP it is still a lot other stuff to rescue. For example, to add "article" just above "...ue squ...." :Dc76\talk 13:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Since we are having some fun here, let me share a thought that just crossed my mind. :-) I'm pretty sure you'll have fun. We can make a hymn for the "Resque Party" :-) :-) "Battle Hymn of the Resque Squadron":
- ok-ok. Deranged Saturn did cross my mind. Ok, I just thought you gave to the rope some additional meaning. Anyway, forget it. I do like the logo. Except where is the word "article"? Are we rescuing everyone and everywhere? :-) Even inside WP it is still a lot other stuff to rescue. For example, to add "article" just above "...ue squ...." :Dc76\talk 13:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- indeed; search for life preservers on Google Images, and you won't find one *without* rope. When I did it without rope, it looked like a deranged wikipedian Saturn, not a life preserver. (in other words, the life preserver is improved by retaining all the information possible to it, including the rope ;-) ) --Thespian 22:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Resque:
- They are trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath aren't few;
- They hath loosed the fateful lightning on deletionist askew
- The truth is marching on.
- I've seen articles deleted by a hundred AfD [eif-dee] stamps,
- They have builded their altar in the darkest dews and damps;
- They destory the righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps:
- Yet the truth is marching on.
- We have sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
- We are sifting out the garbage to allow good content fit:
- Oh, be swift, my pen, to answer forth! be jubilant, my feet!
- The tuth is marching on.
- In the beauty of the lilies article was born across the sea,
- With a glory in its bosom that transfigures you and me:
- As it died to make men ponder, let us live to make it free,
- Article is marching on.
- Aren't all life preservers equipped with a rope? The standard/stereotype image of a life preserver is often adorned with one. Maybe it's a US/UK thing... -- llywrch 19:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- What is the meaning of the rope? how about without the rope.:Dc76\talk 18:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia cannot be used without official license from the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikimedia has given permission (or at least turned a blind eye) to the vandalism brigade, because there's a universal agreement they're useful. ARS? Not a universally-likable organization, unlikely to get the papal blessing. -- Zanimum 18:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- While I didn't know that, by way of 'turning a blind eye', they lose their ability to say it can't be used in this fashion. It's all or nothing. So they can stop everyone, or they can allow respectful use as above. Since they can't stop parody and satire of the logo, and since they allow it for other project organizations (and in point, the vandalism brigade is not universally-likable, either), they (meaning you, since you brought it up), are free to hunt down all usage of the logo and end it, or understand that this is in fact a allowable work (low res, all the goodies from WP:LOGOS) that does not harm the copyright holder. If Wikipedia goes after its own users for this sort of work, it's also likely to give legal opening to every logo and logo usage being removed from the site if the copyright holders decide to request it. --Thespian 19:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for verification
Please see: Wikipedia:Requests for verification
A proposal designed as a process similar to Template:Tl to delete articles without sources if no sources are provided in 30 days.
It reads:
Some editors see this as necessary to improve Wikipedia as a whole and assert that this idea is supported by policy, and others see this as a negative thing for the project with the potential of loss of articles that could be easily sourced.
I would encourage your comments in that page's talk or Mailing list thread on this proposal WikiEN-l: Proposed "prod" for articles with no sources
Signed Jeepday (talk) 14:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Idea: have it be checked every 10 days or so by an admin, and they decided if the tag is taken off or not. You could use a succession of tags, like {{RfV1}}, {{RfV2}}, and {{RfV3}}. The reason I'm saying this is because I don't want it to be like prod where anyone can just nuke the tag and possibly stop someone from seeing the fact it needs sources. Kwsn(Ni!) 15:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have elsewhere stated my opposition to this proposal. It is easy for one person to challenge in a few minutes dozens of articles, which would then take much more than 30 days to all get improved. I work regularly at sourcing such articles-- it takes me about an hour to do a simple sourcing, or but to do it properly on a difficult article on a subject not covered in the web takes at least several hours with both electronic and print access to a good library (I use Princeton and NYU). I can do about one a week that way, RW permitting.
- There are two types of material that really needs sourcing--the many unsourced bios containing negative BLP that are still left from previous times, and the even larger number of articles that contain unsourced material that appears on its face to be POV or otherwise inaccurate. If a sourcing project uses proper priorities, and if it establishes the principle that an unsourced tag should not be placed unless the person actually tries to source it, and fails, and documents where he looked to facilitate the subsequent work of others then it would be useful. Even then, I am altogether opposed to fixed times. People do not do work well when under the pressure of a deadline--and it arouses resentment.
- Personally, I think the way to go is to bring all articles under a subject-oriented project, where there are people who know the appropriate sources, and to work by project. DGG (talk) 00:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I've long suggested something along these lines (and I'm an inclusionist). The problem with this particular suggestion - as with the abuse of PROD and AfD for similar ends - is that it's completely arbitrary. The article gets nominated when some random who wants the article deleted nominates it, and anyone who wants the article kept has to drop what they're doing and fight it. It breeds nastiness, and it wastes time. Moreover, its pretty ineffective as a means of getting articles referenced - people are forced to focus on finding sources with some suitably glamorous "claim of notability", whether or not that has anything to do with the reasons the subject is actually notable, so as to convince people with no clue either way not to delete the article. A more sensible process would encourage people to get the articles properly sourced in full.
What would be a much more effective process is to treat unsourced articles similarly to the way we used to treat images back when copyright was just beginning to be enforced properly. We could have a bot tag a certain number of articles a month, and give people say, a three month window to actually get them sourced. You'd still have the time window before deletion to put pressure on people to actually source their work, but you'd be giving them more than enough time to do it - actually giving people time to get to libraries if necessary, and without forcing people to immediately drop any other projects on someone else's whim. Rebecca 06:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
WP:PROD is dangerous
Surprised no one mentioned it here!
- Not really, something is less likely to get deleted via prod than CSD. However, removing a prod tag usually results in an AfD. Kwsn(Ni!) 18:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Removing a PROD tag without improvement is what results in AfDs, as it should. Incidentally, PRODs are not mechanically deleted--the admin who deletes it is supposed to evaluate the article and delete, send to Afd, or keep as appropriate. At present, we have no automatic mechanism to ensure proper follow-up of removal of PROD tags, so those placing PRODs should watchlist the article. Many PRODs do get improved, and personally I think a non-template comment to the author helps in that. DGG (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- This shouldn't be the case with PRODs, and that wasn't what I had in mind when I supported its introduction back in the day. The PROD process was established as a means of deleting stuff that no one actually was likely to want kept, but didn't meet the strict speedy deletion criteria. It being used incorrectly in this way creates the same problem this was set up to address - good articles are being deleted not because they're not notable, but because they haven't been referenced in a completely random and arbitrary period which may not suit the people who have access to the references. That's just socially clueless - it's a means not to get many articles referenced, but to piss off as many people as possible. Rebecca 06:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Removing a PROD tag without improvement is what results in AfDs, as it should. Incidentally, PRODs are not mechanically deleted--the admin who deletes it is supposed to evaluate the article and delete, send to Afd, or keep as appropriate. At present, we have no automatic mechanism to ensure proper follow-up of removal of PROD tags, so those placing PRODs should watchlist the article. Many PRODs do get improved, and personally I think a non-template comment to the author helps in that. DGG (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Deletionist
I'm sort of a deletionist, but I see what you guys mean. If you want any views from the other side of the fence, just drop me a line :). Kwsn(Ni!) 15:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we want you to tear down that fence, Mr
GorbachovKwsn. :-) :Dc76\talk 18:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)- Heh, well, I personally prefer merging than deleting if something has a little notability, but not enough to have a whole article, but if you want to know how we think, just ask away. Kwsn(Ni!) 18:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- The problem is that not you are deciding every article to merge or to delete: maybe if it were done all through you, there would be no problem. Personally, I think "Articles for Resque" could work as a revue process after "Articles for Deletion". In AfD, there are many who say "until you improve it, we delete it". Often they do not even allow the article to be placed on some kind of probation for a period to be worked upon. This does have its own merrits: there are a lot of proposed articles that do merit deletion - advertising, political opinion, etc. But the Deletionist Party is on its own ground in AfD - they are congregating there, while those in favour of double-triple reading only come there ocasionally. AfR would be then where one places and appeal. After an initial overview if the original article was not advertising or plain vandalism, some from the Resque Party would recover the article in some project-space, where it can be improved. When it reaches some better level, it can be moved in mainspace. At that point, it can be placed in AfD and deleted again, then in AfR again - the result will undoubtably be that the quality will improve (or an alternative merging solution would be found), b/c no sane person is going to aprove the return to mainspace of something that has not been improved. :Dc76\talk 13:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, well, I personally prefer merging than deleting if something has a little notability, but not enough to have a whole article, but if you want to know how we think, just ask away. Kwsn(Ni!) 18:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we want you to tear down that fence, Mr
Oh, and something you may like of mine
An essay on how to change WP:WEB. Personally, even I think that's too strict. Kwsn(Ni!) 18:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Some comments
"One person can't outvote a dozen." - AfD isn't a vote, so you don't need to "outvote" anybody. If someone brings up proof of notability, and it's valid, people often take notice.
"extensive article that's been edited over 800 times since July 2005." - This is not a valid argument to keep an article. Theoretically, you can have one very prolific, Preview-phobic editor who makes hundreds of tiny edits to an article on his garage band over several months, adding an extensive record of every time they play another show. For a less extreme example, you can have an article that is a hoax, but a very good one that many editors take for granted.
"Look at what was speedy deleted the fourth time." - I looked. At a casual glance, I can see why a reader would believe it didn't assert notability. It reads just like any other of the thousands of band articles that hover just above the WP:MUSIC line. While the band was probably notable, the article sure didn't get that across very well.
That's generally my point. If your subject is notable, tell the reader; don't expect him or her to imply it. This almost always requires more than one sentence. I can think of very few notable subjects for which there is only one sentence's worth of information out there. Crystallina 20:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've taken your comments into consideration and made a couple of rewording edits to the project page. I disagree with you about the Christian band though. New, stubby articles often need work to bring them into point by point compliance with WP:NOTE, especially if they were created by newbie contributors who've never seen the policy page before. Remember WP:AGF and WP:BITE. Wl219 21:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think the easiest way to salvage an article is to provide reliable sourcing on the subject. It really only takes a few minutes of googling on all but the most obscure topics (or a trip to the various language portals for a topic in another language) and really does improve the article. Integrating DGG's ideas into the project would be nice. One of the biggest problems with AfD currently is that people think WP:N seems subjective. But WP:V isn't. ColourBurst 23:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- This just isn't true, and that's part of what's so harmful about the current situation. If you're dealing with an article about a band or a living person, then yes, sources are generally easy to come by. If you're not dealing with that, however - something that generally doesn't make good newspaper copy - then you may need to have access to a good library, perhaps one in a particular geographical location. This often means that you just can't get sources in a random seven-day period. Alternatively, it can lead to some very stupid discussions - just a few days ago, we had people running round trying to quantify the notability of the country's largest and most well known cat food brand to satisfy the nomic metric. Rebecca 06:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
More comments from the Deletionist
First, I think a link to Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions would be nice, as it outlines weak arguments for both keep an delete (and guess what WP:RUBBISH links to).
Examples
- Russophobia deletion entry - PROPOSED July 13, clearly a widely used term and an extensive article that's had over 800 non-trivial edits by multiple editors since July 2005. Trending to keep, thankfully. Bizarre arguments for deletion:
- "Original essay, a collection of arbitrary facts from newspapers, internet sites and similar sources to prove the existence of a particular prejudice." Yes, egads, those pesky facts. Sources clearly point to existence of the term used during the Cold War.
- "We have already had Anti-Hellenism (deleted), Anti-Bosniak sentiment(deleted), recreated Bosniakophobia (and deleted again), Anti-Hungarian sentiment(deleted), etc. compiled in exact same way." The method is not the question. Do the sources backup the claim that this is a well used and accepted term? Yes it does. Seems Russophobia got caught up in a crusade against multiple pages with -phobia. Thse sweeping en masse deletion are dangerous because one often uses the worst of the bunch as a justification to delete others that may be entirely different. See Estophobia for the spark that ignited much of this.
- "Delete This topic is not backed by verification in reliable sources, and most of its contents seem to be original research. And while this may be more a cleanup rather than a deletion issue, it also is extremely POV." Someone admits this should be a cleanup and not a deletion, and what do they do? Vote delete.
- ATV News deletion entry - PROPOSED July 13, deletion voter shows a fundamental misunderstanding about what Wikipedia is.
- "Chinese-language version of ATV News has a much larger potential audience - about 60 times the size, and might be notable, but if so, should be in Wikipedia-Chinese, not English" Er, no, English language Wikipedia can and should have articles about things in other languages.
- Many "... in popular culture" articles are being deleted at a quick rate. Charles Manson in popular culture, Carl Jung in popular culture, Gilgamesh in popular culture, The Chronicles of Narnia in popular culture, Harpsichord in popular culture, Casey Jones in popular culture. While I'm not a fan of all of these, the reasoning behind deleting these shows a disturbing trend.
(this will take widespread community involvement to reverse)DGG (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Middle-earth in popular culture wasn't in great shape, but there is no doubt there should be an article of some sort at many of these pages. The arguments often given for deletion are ones that could be rebutted if someone actually edited the pages concerned. Carcharoth 12:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- List of songs about masturbation - DELETED July 15, 2007. While I'm no personal fan of this page, it does show the shifting line in the sand. This page has been around since March 2005, had over 1,000 edits. It survived VfD in April, October, November of 2005, but finally in July 2007, it's been flushed.
- This Beautiful Republic was speedy deleted around 4 times without discussion. The last time is was marked as part of WikiProject Contemporary Christian Music, and was being edited by WikiProject members. It had several elements that met WP:MUSIC (or were close enough to require discussion), including a national tour, signed to a major Christian label, and a reference from a reliable source (although there was only one reference). Look at what was speedy deleted the fourth time. The last time was as the artist was hitting the national charts in the U.S., and receiving significant rotation. Their single hit #5 on some national charts shortly after the deletion. I had the article restored to my sandbox, and strongly referenced the article before taking it to mainspace. The speedy deletion process failed in this case. Royalbroil 21:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
About the examples
Regarding Russophobia, seems like a case of WP:ALLORNOTHING to me.
Regarding the "Popular culture" articles: half WP:ALLORNOTHING, half WP:TRIVIA.
Regarding This Beautiful Republic, not even I would tag that for speedy deletion without checking the label if one is linked (half the time, one isn't given however).
Regarding song lists: WP:NOT#INFO. That, and a category would work just as well (and would prevent some person dropping a random song into it).
I'm open to comments. Kwsn(Ni!) 00:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I do not think the general discussion of example belongs on a project page like this; on most clean up projects, just the title of the article is mentioned. Kwsn has the right idea, and I have BOLDly transferred the section here, just above his comment. Further--it really isnt necessary to reproduce the discussion from the AfD--just to link to it. Unlike articles, AfDs do not get deleted. DGG (talk) 00:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Follow Ups
Something else I'd like to ask any of you about is Follow Ups; I have frequently hit AfDs out there where the item was nommed by someone who didn't even bother to really look, they just went for the 'I haven't heard of it' argument. Often because the original editor 'knows' it to be notable, they don't understand why someone is saying it's not, and can't fix it. Now, I don't have the time or energy to fix any more articles that I'm not interested in than I already am (there is *surely* a reason why I seem to be the main contributor to Adam Sandler, but I don't understand how it happened). But I frequently will argue, 'It's notable, here's some stuff, here's some other stuff, and a bit over here, too. I'll fight to keep your article for you, but I can't do this work for you.'
Often after I do that, there will be a flurry of 'Keep per Thespian' comments, and the article will be saved. Now, I don't want to spend time on the article. Until I get paid to do this, that is not for me. But having 'saved' it, I'm trying to come up with a way of keeping track of making sure that people do take the info I dig for them and fix the articles, and also, ways to nudge people who said, 'sure, I'll fix this!' and then never do.
Are any of you doing this? How do you do it? Would that fall within the scope of this project? --Thespian 07:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have the same experiences at my end and have found no other way than to keep checking in with the article and nudging those who offered to contribute, whilst continuing to fend off trouble. Luckily the articles that interest me attract only small numbers, but still the occasional fly drops in and slams the article without having read past the first sentence, sometimes just fired by a phrase and then they place tags on it, which I later remove. Follow up seems within the scope of this squadron. --Ziji File:Baby tao.jpg (talk email) 09:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Listcruft deletion gone wild...
Need your opinions on articles that have been around since 2005, and are now on the chopping block as "listcruft." I'm of no strong feeling one way or the other right now, but do see it as a shame to see such things as:Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2007_July_18#List_of_cultural_references_to_A_Clockwork_Orange, as simply rehashing debates and challenging norms by newbies. -- Fuzheado | Talk 14:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I suspect that this is an outgrowth of a comment Jimbo made to the WikiEN-l maillist many moons ago. He was showing off Wikipedia to some people, happened to click on an article where there was a list of "X in popular culture" which detailed every mention of this subject on The Simpsons. A collective rolling of eyes followed, with the usual crumudgeonly observations about Wikipedia going to hell in a handbasket, film at 11. This dislike for listcruft filtered out to the general community where it was heard not as "let's try to improve the content of these lists" but as "death to all lists about high-culture subjects appearing in popular culture". In other words, complain about something passionately enough & a few months down the road a progrom will be launched to eliminate every occurance of it. -- llywrch 16:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- If they do it too much, they should be told not to do it at all... We're not the only place with that problem. Circeus 16:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
relevant debate
The Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paternal bond seems like something this project would interested in. VanTucky (talk) 18:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
The Bat-Signal
I've created a template -- Template:Rescue -- for people to add to pages that need the Rescue Squadron's attention. As you can see, it only contains a category. People could just add the category to the page directly, but doing it this way offers more flexibility.
One caveat: I don't code templates, so I have no idea whether the one I've made works (or whether it's acceptable, policy-wise).
Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 02:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- Greetings, I have enhanced the template. Please let me know your thoughts. Fosnez 11:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Cool. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 10:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Merging to save content
What do people here think of the idea that merging can often save stubs until enough verifiable and notable information has been found to spin an article back out again? In many cases, merging is the true solution, and in some the suggested merge destination is 'full' already. But merging can be a good idea, particularly because the edit history of the old article gets preserved at the redirect (it is rare for a redirect with extensive edit history to be deleted, though you still have to watch for that sort of thing). Carcharoth 11:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- It depends on the type of merge you're talking about. If you mean a simple cut and paste, I think that for the most part degrades other articles with rambling lists and trivia. But if you mean the type of action that User:Chubbles1212 and myself just carried out with Cultural references to guinea pigs, then yes. Shifting the content of articles likely to be up for deletion into a good prose format and merging them with main articles seems to be a positive thing. VanTucky (talk) 17:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think merging is rarely a good option. The information from the original article in many cases does not fit easily into the target article, which means that it must be mostly deleted to be of any use there. Moreover, it substantially reduces the prospect of getting an actual useful article on the original topic, seeing as breaking it back out requires a bit of wiki knowledge that a lot of newers users will not have. Rebecca 04:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- Which is why using the deletion processes as a means of getting stuff sourced (at least on its own) is a completely stupid way of attempting to get articles referenced. Rebecca 04:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, merging sounds good, until you look at the way it is often applied in WP . At least in contentious situations. it tends to be a way of eliminating content without exactly saying so. It should be seen as a modified version of deletion" sometimes necessary, but to be carefully watched and not done without good reason. It has places, especially when it can be generalized for a type of articles: for a group of minor gentry, important, but where articles on each are impractical for lack of secondary sources; for schools with only directory information into an article about the school district. for individual episodes of a TV serial. But it is not a panacea, and like all processes which delete content, needs to be used cautiously. DGG (talk) 05:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Some points that may counter some of the concerns expressed above include: (a) merging preserves the edit history of the original article, making it possible for ordinary editors to see the version before merging (when an article is deleted, only admins can see it); (b) using the Category:Redirects with possibilities template to label the redirect and listing it somewhere (like here), with a link to the version before merging, to bring it to the attention of people who might want to resurrect it at some point after working to find the references.
I agree that this is not ideal, as in an ideal wiki world the article would be worked on 'in the open' with maximum input from lots of editors. However, in practice, especially in the current AfD climate, articles are nominated for deletion before they get worked on. Of course we must work to change the culture of "delete instead of working on an article" that affects some nominations at AfD, but in parallel, this is one technique for 'saving' articles.
Another 'rescue' technique' I mentioned above is moving pages to a "rewrite" area, rewriting them, and then bringing them back. I will expand this below. Carcharoth 22:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have been rummaging through the "redirects with possibilities" category I mentioned above, and the majority are redirects that were never expanded upon, or have sections on the topic being redirected. What is really needed is a tool to detect the redirects with possibilities that have an extensive edit history. Anyone know how to do that? Carcharoth 22:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Rewrite areas
What do people here think of the idea of rewrite areas? This sort of idea already exists in that for some articles some admins are quite happy to restore copies to a user's userspace and allow them to work on it, with the complete edit history, and then move it back into main article space when it is ready. My idea here would be simply to extend this to Wikipedia space, where people can collaborate on such rewrites. I'm sure this already happens in various formal and informal ways, and I am surprised it is not mentioned here (as far as I can see). What I am proposing is that in addition to the "keep", "delete", "merge", "redirect" and other options mentioned and !voted on at AfD, we try and make the option of "rewrite" more prominent. The idea is that some articles are: (a) in such a bad state and (b) don't have many editors available to work on them - that they should be shunted off to a rewrite area until they are ready to be moved back to main article space. Of course, the AfD should give some idea of what is needed in a rewrite, but this would be far less destructive than deletion. You could have the option of "rewrite in userspace"; "rewrite in WikiProject X space" and "rewrite in Article Rescue Squadron space" (for any unclaimed articles that shouldn't be deleted).
If this was considered a viable option, then the article would be moved, complete with edit history, to the rewrite location. Editing would proceed there, and then it would be moved back to the location it had come from when it was ready. There would have to be limits set on this. You don't want a user or WikiProject ending up with 100 rewrites and not doing any of them. Maybe some sort of time limit of a month (or more if requested). Plus other details I'm not sure of. Plus the rewrite location should be subject to future AfDs, rather than MfDs (Miscellany for deletion). There is also the thorny problem of what to do with what are probably lots of "never done" rewrites moldering away in people's userspaces.
One big problem with this is that you are left with a mainspace redirect to a Wikipedia namespace location (ie. a cross-namespace redirect). If you delete this, then lots of redlinks get created which may then get delinked (which would be disastrous), and also someone may (on seeing a redlink) write a new article. Keeping the redirect means that people still get directed from the links in articles to the rewrite that is in progresss, and get very confused that they have been taken out of the main article space (if they are just an ordinary reader). This combination of problems may be insurmountable, but maybe others have thoughts on this. Carcharoth 23:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- Great idea. I wish AfD participants would entertain this option more often. As for implementation issues, I think we can have an inverse time limit for relisting back to AfD. If there are lots of people in the original nom that say they'll help rewrite/fix the article, then it should take less time for the collaboration to put together something that will at least survive a PROD. Also forces those people to keep their commitments to fix. If it's just a few editors, naturally they might need more time. What if we start it at 1 month time limit to rewrite if there's 1 editor willing to do it, and subtract 2 days for each additional editor willing to help out, until we reach 7 days. Participants will thus have between 7-30 days to make good on their commitment to rewrite. It'll be up to the admin who closes the original AfD nom to police the time limit.
- As for the redirect confusion, I think we can solve that by having the restoring admin semi-protect it and mark it with a big tag up top that says "this article is in draft form and is actively being edited to bring it into compliance with WP standards, as such it should not be considered an official part of WP." I think that's idiot-proof enough for most (reasonable) casual readers. Wl219 07:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we need a system for content deletion which leaves the article in existence as a kind of stub. Particularly useful in cases where the reason for deletion is related to the article (copyvio, unsourced, etc) rather than the topic (not notable etc), and/or where "What links here" shows multiple links and/or redirects from elsewhere. Delete the central block of content, leaving whatever is unobjectionable: likely to be any dab statement, categories, stub categories, perhaps "external links", any "see also" links to other WP articles, possibly any infobox or other similar (depends why the page is being considered for deletion). The lead sentence if it's uncontroversial: if not, create a new one where possible. Then stick a big template on to say that the content of the article is under review and can be seen/edited "here". That way no-one finds red links and starts to re-create the article or delink, and the infrastructure and history of the article remains. Sure, it would take a little longer than just deleting the whole page - but Wikipedia would be the better for it! PamD 08:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's still going for the idea of "shoot first, ask questions later", which is just unnecessary. If there is anything dubious or which raises any BLP issues, it should be shot on sight as a preventative measure. There's no reason, however, to go about removing all unreferenced content - you're just creating a morass of far less useful articles. We need to redirect this energy away from trying to delete unreferenced content to sourcing it - at the moment, I and others who would spend more time referencing articles are trying to waste a whole lot of time and energy fending off pointless deletion bids for good articles and good content. Rebecca 09:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm still wincing from the total disappearance of Leeds Town Hall for "copyvio" when it was long-established and had useful content and tags apart from the very long-established coypvio text, as well as many links pointing to it! PamD 10:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- That was a speedy deletion that wasn't carefully considered enough. That sort of thing generally gets fixed if someone notices it. That's not really what article rescue is for. Carcharoth 19:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
It looks like the solution is for those with 'clue' to hang out at AfD and actively reference articles for those who are too lazy to do so, or who aren't able to search for said references. Anything that people think is notable but they need more time to find references for, should be listed here and taken to deletion review when the references are found. The culture won't swing back overnight, and it will take hard work, but that is what this project is part of organising, it seems. First up would be to get someone to give a lesson in saving an article at AfD. Anyone? Carcharoth 19:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- See the AfD debate for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Law Practice managment software. A little self-promoting of me maybe, but I take pride in saying I helped save it from deletion. Not only was consensus to keep but the nom was withdrawn. Compare what it was when first nominated [15] with the way it is now. Wl219 03:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Article links
Despite AfD being changed sometime ago to use the Template:Tl template that gives links to an article's talk page, links, history, and page logs, I wonder whether people make as good use of these as they should?
- The article history link should be used to check whether a better version of the article existed previously, and to see how long the article has existed for and how many edits has been made to it. The number of different contributors and the type of contributions can sometimes indicate how many other people have taken the time to edit the article previous to the AfD.
- The talk page should be checked for previous AfD discussions, and those discussions should be linked from the current AfD.
- The "what links here" links should be checked to see how many other articles link to this one. A large number of links from other articles can be evidence that the article title is needed, regardless of the current content.
- Finally, the page log should be checked to see if the article previously existed. If the article previously existed, the current article might just be a recreation. But equally this can be a sign that the previous deletion was faulty and there is a need for an article if people are independently recreating an article.
Failure to check some or all of the above four points can be a sign of a poorly-thought out nomination. Maybe checking things like this could be something this project does? Carcharoth 12:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- Everyone interested in solving this problem should help in the way they can best contribute. We all agree that current practices at AfD is a problem -- misuse of the deletion process to solve issues like insufficient citations, bad writing, various other manifestations of laziness, & the usual polemical campaigns. No one solution will fix this; just because the people causing this problem think of AfD as a hammer is no reason for us to. -- llywrch 17:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- of course people should watch afd, and these hints are a useful checklist. Nobody can watch them all, and attention should be paid in particular to the ones that get few comments. DGG (talk) 03:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Flawed-rationale attacks on glossary lists
Please be on the lookout for any attempts to delete glossary articles on the basis of WP:DICT/WP:NOT. The reasoning is flawed (a glossary is not a dicdef), and glossaries are expressly, by name, mentioned as a valid variety of list-style article in the Manual of Style (at Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists)#Format of the lists).
For more background argument on this topic, see my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Australian and New Zealand punting glossary (which survived AfD) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000 AD glossary (which did not survive AfD, but on grounds of WP:V and WP:C), as well as a Village Pump thread which can be found here, under "Glossaries" (I'm using a history link here because VP archives are dumped very quickly).
— SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 14:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- The WP:NOT#DICT policy once had a specific exemption for glossaries which was removed and led to this discussion, which clearly represents no consensus for removing the exemption (and while it might appear from that discussion that there is no consensus for including it, the mere continued existence of List of glossaries and the pages listed there seems to demonstrate otherwise). Unfortunately, at least on policy pages, WP:CONSENSUS seems to have been de facto superseded by WP:TENACITY (red link intentional), which is why (IMHO) the explicit glossary exemption continues to be missing. DHowell 23:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- WP:TENACITY -- I described this phenomena to someone last week, & his response was "Oh, you mean reaching a decision by being an asshole?" Sigh. There are times when one should kick & scream, & times when one should be silent & accept the consensus for the good of the project. -- llywrch 20:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- Please refrain from using profain language. Thank you. --Queer As Folk 22:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia maintenance
Should we consider becomming part of the afore mentioned category ? ARE we part of the 'maintenance' process ? or are we a wholly different set of 'gnomes' ? This opens into the discussion on how well do we wish to be advertised? The more we are advertised...IMHO... the thinner we will be spread amongst needy articles, at least in the beginning phase and not helpful to our original cause. I bring this up here after looking at the Category for quite a while ... not being able to decide and wanting consensus. (Of course there is THIS category if we wish to keep a covert profile :P )
And on a seperate note... Will we be getting a Shortcut to the namespace page ? eg. WP:Rescue to go along with the {{Rescue}} template
Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 02:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Reading for today
SMcCandlish has been asking the following question of candidates over at WP:RfA -- which for therecord I think is a good one:
- Selecting one item listed at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion that arguably does not belong there, that arguably does not belong there, explain (citing WP:CSD and/or WP:DP in detail) why it should not be speedily deleted. (If all of them appear to be appropriate candidates, say so and I'll think of replacement test of admin judgement.) Your personal, subjective opinion of the value of the item (how well written it is, the importance of the topic beyond satisfying WP:CSD's notability requirements, and so forth) should not be a factor.
However, one person who does not seem to get the point is arguing with him over the need to ask this question, leading SMcCandlish to write this explaination -- which I recommend to one & all to read.
I don't think there is any violation of WP:POINT here; one candidate answered that he couldn't find any articles that fit the criteria, & that was an acceptable answer. It's just that with all of the shoot-on-sight material that streams in, odds are always pretty good that there will be several mislabelled articles there. -- llywrch 04:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think the qy was not necessarily confrontational and that most candidates gave reasonable answers, but there was strong objection from the supporters of some other candidates, & the current sentiment seems to think it was unduly POINTy & I wouldnt want to oppose that. The usual way of asking about this topic is to examine edit histories and ask about specific edits--this seems universally accepted. 06:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs)
Sometimes it may be difficult to find candidates for speedy deletion that don't belong on the list, because an admin with a trigger finger may have been patrolling the list recently. I was astonished by the speed with which The Webb Schools (an article with a nearly-two-year history of editing by many different users) was deleted, apparently on grounds that the then-current version read like a brochure. See User talk:Maxim/Archives#Your deletion of The Webb Schools. I had removed several speedy-delete templates (placed by an IP user who clearly dislikes the school) in the days before the deletion, so I was watching the article fairly closely (I noticed the deletion after the red link appeared on my watchlist), but I imagine that many other articles have disappeared without a trace.--orlady 21:06, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- It took me a while to think of a useful response to this important comment, but now I have it: articles that have been around for a long time and/or with more than the average number of edits should not be marked as Candidates for Speedy Deletes. This does not mean they should not be nominated for deletion -- or the discussion closed under WP:SNOW. Speedy Deletes are supposed to be no-brainer obvious choices that any experienced editor would immediately agree should be guillotined; any article with that much edit history requires some investigation, some amount of thought -- not a quick hatchet job. This is something that probably should be discussed in Wikipedia:Village Pump. -- llywrch 19:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would say that have been substantially edited by more than one person over a period of time. There s a good deal of junk fro 2006 and before that has never gotten deleted--the wording will be a little tricky. "For more than 6 months with significant contributions by more than two different editors over a period of time" (And exceptions must always be made for copyvio and BLP) I agree this would be a good change, but I think there may be trouble getting it accepted. DGG (talk) 06:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good suggestions. I don't think any rigid mechanistic rule will do the trick (but then again i don't like rigid mechanistic rules). However, if the main message (whether from a mechanistic rule or a vague guideline) is "review the edit history before doing a speedy delete," it might go a long way toward preventing unduly speedy deletes.--orlady 01:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- I could live with Orlady's suggestion, but I still think that CSD's ought to be limited to obvious, no research needed, shoot-on-sight candidates. The presence of an edit history which needs to be reviewed before acted on contradicts that. And even if the edit history has nothing in it which redeems the article, even that simple explaination means that someone has to write up an argument for deletion -- which means it should be referred to WP:AfD. -- llywrch 02:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good suggestions. I don't think any rigid mechanistic rule will do the trick (but then again i don't like rigid mechanistic rules). However, if the main message (whether from a mechanistic rule or a vague guideline) is "review the edit history before doing a speedy delete," it might go a long way toward preventing unduly speedy deletes.--orlady 01:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would say that have been substantially edited by more than one person over a period of time. There s a good deal of junk fro 2006 and before that has never gotten deleted--the wording will be a little tricky. "For more than 6 months with significant contributions by more than two different editors over a period of time" (And exceptions must always be made for copyvio and BLP) I agree this would be a good change, but I think there may be trouble getting it accepted. DGG (talk) 06:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Member Numbers
You may notice that I numbered the Members List (as a consequence Tlogmer's comment had to be moved down because the list would start at 1 after the comment). The reason I have numbered us is twofold: 1) People viewing the page can see just how much we have grown and the size of our group and 2) it may sometimes be easier to refer to ourselves as member number...of the ARS. PS I am not an expert Wikipedian so maybe someone can help me out: is there a way we can prevent new members from putting themselves as Member no. 1 or 3 or 5 when they should be no. 50, for example? I feel that when the ARS has grown to hundreds, it would be nice that we get recognised as the people who were there at the start. Just a thought. --Queer As Folk 15:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Putting dates after names is always a good idea, butI think you're worrying about something that's not all that important. Someone would only do that if they're desperate for attention, & either do not know that this is not the best way to gain it -- frankly, I consider that almost as sad as lying about one's Wikiholic score -- or are trolling -- in which case they'll get in trouble for more serius actions. -- llywrch 19:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- I had the list bulleted to show a sort of egalitarian doesn't-matter-when-you-joined spirit. (But then I kept moving new entries to the bottom because, of course, I do care about being member #1 :p ). In general, focusing on join-date status tends to be unhealthy for groups. (And hopefully the rescue squadron will stop being needed before membership rises to the hundreds.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 10:13, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Template:Rescue
Wouldn't it make more sense just to use the category that this template categorizes articles into, and delete the template? IronGargoyle 22:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Another surprise
Some well-meaning soul has decided to add a template that questions the notability of each episode of The Office (UK). I'm speechless. -- llywrch 03:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
A similar project that may interest you
I just found out about this project. I just formed a project called Wikipedia Intensive Care Unit that may have similar goals, though I come at it from more of a deletionist point of view. Comments and suggestions are welcomed at WP:ICU. Thanks ! Realkyhick 15:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Zerg up for deletion
Apparently it is not noteable (by the gods I hate that term). The article is in need of a rewrite, but I don't think the argument for deletion is very strong. I just joined the Rescue Squadron, and I can't quote policy to save it myself, so I have added it to the Category. I though I would just pop it here too and introduce myself. Fosnez 11:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Is this project for improving articles or just an excuse to vote stack? MartinDK 08:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please read the project page and have a nice day. - Fosnez 08:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Quoting policy is the last refuge of the scoundrel. ;) "Notability" is the concept that articles about your lover of the appropriate sex, your pet, & your favorite bit of trivia are not worth an article in Wikipedia because of their value to you. However, if you can make a plausible argument that someone else would be actually want to read an article about any of these -- or other -- things, no matter how obscure, esoteric or rooted in popular culture, then they are notable. The Devil is in the details, & some people are better skilled at explaining notability than others. -- llywrch 07:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- all sensible inclusion-oriented people with experience at AfD know that improving a challenged article is the best way to keep it. Vote stacking rarely works, whereas real improvement will certainly have an effect on the fair-minded. I 'm not about to use this project to comment on what I wouldn't otherwise comment on--I do intend to use it to improve what I otherwise might not get to. DGG (talk) 19:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
TDVision up for deletion
- TDVision - about to be deleted per WP:CORP because of writing style. Notable, needs editing. User:Krator (t c) 08:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
The above comment was moved from the front page - Fosnez 06:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Republican National Committee
Someone from an ip address put a speedy tag on this for spam, and then added our banner--I've removed them both. Perhaps it was just a test. DGG (talk) 21:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Userbox
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Greetings, I have created a userbox for the project. I think the associated category would be a better way of keeping an up to date member list. Any comments? Fosnez 01:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- I like it! Ichormosquito 05:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Template:Talkarchive Template:Archive-nav Template:Talkarchive Template:Archive-nav
Get rid of the militaristic terminology
...and this could be a good idea. Seriously, all the talk about squadrons and such attracts exactly the wrong kind of people. Zocky | picture popups 15:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Interesting, I never thought of it at all in militaristic terms. The term "rescue squadron" at least in the US is used in the emergency and firefighting field much more than in the military sense. -- Fuzheado | Talk 17:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- I admit, the word "squadron" does have a militaristic connotation, but in a Saturday-morning cartoonish sort of way. As in a group of kids wearing beenie caps with propeller blades, and solving Hardy Boys-style mysteries. Anyone for "Captain Tlogmer and the Article Rescue Squadron"? We could sell advertising space to the junk food of our choice. :-) More seriously, I doubt anyone would object if you came up with a name for a group of people that doesn't have such an unfortunate association. llywrch 23:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- If I am not mistaken, in the military a squadron is lead by a lieutenant (or a first lieutenant where this rank exists), while a captain leads a company, usually of 4 squadrons. So, by saying "Captain Tlogmer and the Article Rescue Squadron" we would automatically show that it is not used in militaristic terms. (Well, that supposes the reader knows that a squadron is led by a lieutenant.) But he name is nice. :-) BTW, who's Tlogmer?:Dc76\talk 18:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- "Captain" is one of those leadership titles that extends beyond the military sense. "Captain of a ship", for example. And the old parties of mountain men would be organized into groups under a captain. (FWIW, Once I came up with the "Captain Tlogmer" bit, I found msyelf wanting to rename the group "the Article Rescue Rangers". I would have suggested it earlier, but I was away from my usual Internet connections last night.) -- llywrch 19:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- "The article rescue rangers" is pretty good. I like "squadron" better, but I'm easy. Squadron was good for grabbing attention; rangers might be a better name from a promoting-wikilove point of view. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 06:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- "Article Rescue Rangers" might appeal to my inner furry, but I think I prefer "squadron". I wouldn't mind "Captain Tlogmer and the Article Rescue Squadron", either, to be honest. Ichormosquito 20:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- "The article rescue rangers" is pretty good. I like "squadron" better, but I'm easy. Squadron was good for grabbing attention; rangers might be a better name from a promoting-wikilove point of view. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 06:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- "Captain" is one of those leadership titles that extends beyond the military sense. "Captain of a ship", for example. And the old parties of mountain men would be organized into groups under a captain. (FWIW, Once I came up with the "Captain Tlogmer" bit, I found msyelf wanting to rename the group "the Article Rescue Rangers". I would have suggested it earlier, but I was away from my usual Internet connections last night.) -- llywrch 19:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- If I am not mistaken, in the military a squadron is lead by a lieutenant (or a first lieutenant where this rank exists), while a captain leads a company, usually of 4 squadrons. So, by saying "Captain Tlogmer and the Article Rescue Squadron" we would automatically show that it is not used in militaristic terms. (Well, that supposes the reader knows that a squadron is led by a lieutenant.) But he name is nice. :-) BTW, who's Tlogmer?:Dc76\talk 18:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Furthermore, it seems that we are using very Russian-istic language - when someone comes on the page, the first thing they read is "Step up, Comrades", which also creates a negative aura around the "squadron". However, I think that it is a quirky name for a dedicated group, and don't want to see it change (especially since I have already gone ahead and made a t-shirt for myself). --Queer As Folk 11:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- The Russian stuff was deliberate, and sort of tongue-in-cheek. A kind of "we're cool, you're cool, we all know that the USSR was terrible, so there's no harm in appropriating its stereotypical terminology". Though there's no better language of motivating people than Russian. Plus, we get to have cool logo if I ever get around to making it. (The page doesn't belong to me, though -- be bold, etc.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 17:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- OIC, you are Tlogmer. You are the guy who started all this. Hi there.:Dc76\talk 18:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- OH HAI! IM IN UR TALK PAGE, MESSIN WITH UR COMMENTS Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 06:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- After all, in Soviet Russia, Deletionists FIND YOU. --Thespian 09:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- OIC, you are Tlogmer. You are the guy who started all this. Hi there.:Dc76\talk 18:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- The Russian stuff was deliberate, and sort of tongue-in-cheek. A kind of "we're cool, you're cool, we all know that the USSR was terrible, so there's no harm in appropriating its stereotypical terminology". Though there's no better language of motivating people than Russian. Plus, we get to have cool logo if I ever get around to making it. (The page doesn't belong to me, though -- be bold, etc.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 17:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- I admit, the word "squadron" does have a militaristic connotation, but in a Saturday-morning cartoonish sort of way. As in a group of kids wearing beenie caps with propeller blades, and solving Hardy Boys-style mysteries. Anyone for "Captain Tlogmer and the Article Rescue Squadron"? We could sell advertising space to the junk food of our choice. :-) More seriously, I doubt anyone would object if you came up with a name for a group of people that doesn't have such an unfortunate association. llywrch 23:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
A technological fix
Really, anyone who has worked on an article (minor edits exempted) should be sent a message (by a bot or something) if that article is nominated for deletion. Automation is usually (rightly) frowned on, but I think it would work well here. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 07:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Not everyone keeps articles they've created or heavily edited on their watchlist. I for one like to keep my watchlist relatively small for manageability. And not all AfD nominators do the courtesy of notification. Wl219 10:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- I like this idea, a lot. do we know if it's actually practicable? AndyJones 12:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
...and an associated danger
- I keep my created articles in a list but not all in my watchlist (the same manageability concerns) and surprisingly (or not surprizingly) there were quite a few deletions totally out of process, like, tagged and deleted the same day. IMO one of the jobs of ARS if to keep track of such trigger-happy, although well-meaning admins, warning them about being too bold and do some whistleblowing if they persist. `'Míkka 20:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Code of Conduct
From what's starting to happen I see the danger for this page to turn into vote solicitation billboard or for accusations that "inclusionists" are engaging in vote stacking. If this happens, this project will be forced to close, like it happened with equally (if not more) well-meaning project wikipedia:Esperanza and some others.
To prevent this from happening and to prevent from abuse, I suggest to establish a rather strict code of conduct.
- No idle wistleblowing If a member lists an article in the wikipedia:Red Book of Articles, they cannot vote "keep" or detag the endangered article without an attempt to fix some problems with it.
- No idle vote ganging If a member sees an article in the wikipedia:Red Book of Articles, they can vote "keep" only after a decent attempt to fix it.
- Show the light. Af a member votes for an article after fixing it, describe in the vote which problems have been fixed and hence no longer applicable.
- Don't make too much fuss If a member totally revives an article, wait for a day or two to see whether the attitude at the AfD changes. If not, then cry for help, otherwise be happy.
I would also suggest the rename it to anything else away from ARS: I refuse to be in the arse, although I am a proud asshole. `'Míkka 19:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- Nonsense. The whole purpose of this project is to curb the insanity of AfD by making sure that stuff that is actually notable is not deleted through incompetence. With that in mind, it is pretty silly to put bureaucratic impediments in the way of it. Moreover, AfD is not cleanup - if changes need to be made to an article to stop an absurd result, then so be it, but if a topic is notable, I am going to vote keep, process wonks be damned. Rebecca 01:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- OK then I am out of here. A bunch of vigilantes who think that other editors are engaged in insanity is not my crowd. Good luck. `'Míkka 03:55, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- P.S. So I see Rebecca was a member of ArbCom. With such crazy temper. I knew that wikipedia sucks, but never thought rotten up to the head. `'Míkka 04:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- To me it would seem unnecessary to even consider voting on anything if we improve the articles in question. it makes any vote moot if the problem is corrected. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 16:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't agree with extra codes of conduct as wp already has pretty clear rules that apply to all editors and they general work. I also am opposed to doing anything that makes improving articles more difficult and the rules proposed seem to add extra components to work that is largely thankless and, by it's nature, stressful. Benjiboi 20:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think the code of conduct issue is to prevent us from being nothing more than a vote stacking group. Sure, in some ways, our article improvements will change a vote, but not because we merely voted... It'll be because we voted based on changing the content of an article, and we will have demonstrated that AfD is not a place to complain about content, but a place to complain about an inappropriate topic. Ronabop 07:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Please get this code of conduct off the page. WP has plenty of rules to address these issues and these are not only confusing but another layer keeping people from editing. If the intent is to spell out we don't vote stack then say that instead clearly and concisely and move on. I think I just violated one of the rules because i voted keep without actually saving the article, i do know though because the codes are convoluted - get rid of them please. 09:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjiboi (talk • contribs)
- Update. I've moved the Code of Conduct (for members) from the instructions to the members page. While I still feel they aren't worded well and if the purpose is to spell out no vote-stacking the whole thing needs to be redone the move alleviates the main concern that it confused the instruction process which should be clear and concise. Benjiboi 09:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
A wasp nest
I appear to have annoyed an admin, and the AFR Template has been modified a few times and is now up for deletion. I have also had an incident taken out against me. Any advise or assistance would be gratefully received. Fosnez 07:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Requested move (old)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 12:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
So that we can sort out the current move request, please state your position (Support or Oppose) in the Survey Section. You are welcome to add a brief comment as to why your have chosen this position, but it is not required. This survey is only for the move to Wikipedia:Article rescue and does not prevent other move discussions from occurring in the future. Other proposed names include Article rescue team, Article Rescue Crew, Team Article Rescue and Captain Tlogmer and the Article Rescue Rangers ;-) Fosnez 11:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Survey
- Oppose - Fosnez 11:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC) - "Article Rescue" is not a good name. Removes the Team aspect.
- Support - Neil ム 11:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC) - removing the Team aspect is entirely why I suggested it. Neil ム 11:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 23:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC) - I'm aware that removing the team moniker brings the name more into line with the names of other wikipedia-writing pages (Articles for Deletion instead of Article Deletion Squad, or whatever) but I think that if anything, those other pages should add "team" (or its equivalent) to their names. Wikipedia's a little too big right now to function as a single cohesive community, but this'll help smaller community-like things coalesce within it. However, it doesn't strike me as that big a deal, either way. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 23:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose - Benjiboi 00:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC) - perhaps someday a group of this nature won't be needed but in my short time on wp I've seen so many articles face AfD and I think it hurts wp. Anything that encourages volunteers to step up and take action is good and the name of the group is too important to be watered down as simply Article Rescue. 00:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment for name suggestion - Can we add Article Rescue Group to the list of possibles? ARG is kind of cute. Benjiboi 00:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose but then, ARS isn't a great name for British and Aussie users either. :) — Timotab Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!) 01:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose it being just "Article rescue". - jc37 03:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - Choices, choices... In preferential order: "Article rescue squad" (squad instead of squadron - gives more of a sense of emergency vehicles); "Article rescue team"; Not a fan of "squadron", and not a fan of "crew" or "group", and though I laughed when I read "Rescue Rangers", I think Chip 'n Dale might get jealous : ) - jc37 03:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose We're like an ambulance for articles. If rescue squadron is fine for 103 Search and Rescue Squadron, it's fine for us. -- Jreferee t/c 04:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Discussion
I think one of the things that tempts people into assuming the worst about this admirable project is the name. "Squadron" is a militaristic term. Is there any good reason not to move the project to Wikipedia:Article rescue? Neil ム 10:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- From my understanding of the spirit of the project, we are like the squadron of editors that swoop down from the sun and rescue articles from the clutches of rectifiable AfDs nominations. Fosnez 11:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. It is a military term, but that doesn't necessarily make the ARS militaristic. Firemen are organised along paramilitary lines, and the picture at the top should tip people that it is closer to the later than the former. Should it resemble something military, it'd be the cavalry in those old westerns. Because who are the good guys? Not the inclusionsts, not the deletionists, but the articles, defenseless and poor pioneers besieged by those two wild and ferocious tribes...--Victor falk 11:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- No, I get the humour in naming it as such, but it would come across as a more established and respectable process with a name that doesn't harken to cavalry, military, "good guys", or anything remotely confrontational. Compare and contrast Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit with, say, Wikipedia:Cleanup. One is a gang who have cool userboxes and a "badass" name, the other is an established and productive wide-scale Wikiproject. Would we rather this effort be a discreet gang of editors, or potentially a real part of Wikipedia? Neil ム 11:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I've filed a requested move. Neil ム 15:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- While I understand the concern over a para-military connotation to the title of the group, part of me wants to resist the move. The problem is that almost all of the labels for a definied group of people have military connotations (the remainder have organized crime connotations, e.g. "gang", "crew", "posse", etc.) unless we make a serious effort to reach & start calling ourselves something along the lines of "Article Rescue Guys". I like the idea of emphasizing the idea of a team, rather than the impersonal goal. -- llywrch 21:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Article rescue loses the collectivist aspect, but Article rescue team might be fine. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 02:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Part of me doesn't like changing our name in response to people who'll probably still distrust us anyway. Part of me points out that a name change may change the minds of those people whose minds are amenable to change. And part of me notes that "Article rescue team" has the acronym ART, which is perhaps preferable to ARS. On the whole I'm ambivalent, but the acronym could win me over. --Zeborah 07:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- To me the name change seems like a step to better integrate the project into wikipedia as a whole -- gaining more formal legitimacy. I'm all for it, really. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 18:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Part of me doesn't like changing our name in response to people who'll probably still distrust us anyway. Part of me points out that a name change may change the minds of those people whose minds are amenable to change. And part of me notes that "Article rescue team" has the acronym ART, which is perhaps preferable to ARS. On the whole I'm ambivalent, but the acronym could win me over. --Zeborah 07:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I was going to suggest "Article rescue team", but I see it's been suggested above. That's two, anyone else? : ) - jc37 22:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Have a read of the above section, it explains the name a lot better than I did. Fosnez 06:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Okay, now I have 3 suggestions
- - name move (see just above) - does anyone acutally oppose moving it?
- - Merge with Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit. I think the two projects should be merged, as they have identical purposes. This one was started first (14 July vs 3 September), so my first suggestion was to merge into the older organization, this one.
- - I added a new section detailing when the Rescue template should be used - good idea? Bad idea?
Busy busy busy. Neil ム 15:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think there are some differences (ie, ICU doesn't focus solely on AfD articles, and hopefully our approach will be more structured, if the triage template works out). But I agree, the redundancy issue should be addressed somehow. --Bfigura (talk) 16:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- (EC) I think the merge would be good, as there is definitely cross-over between this project and ICU. However, The ICU project is not for AfD candidates only, but for any generally poor article that has potential, and notability. This project is focused on articles that are already at the proposed deletion stage, or the AfD stage. So, if merged, a slight re-wording of this project would be in order, to broaden the scope to encompass any poorly written article. Ariel♥Gold 16:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Out of curiosity, EC = ? --Bfigura (talk) 16:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- EC - edit conflict. Neil ム 16:42, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Out of curiosity, EC = ? --Bfigura (talk) 16:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- (EC) I think the merge would be good, as there is definitely cross-over between this project and ICU. However, The ICU project is not for AfD candidates only, but for any generally poor article that has potential, and notability. This project is focused on articles that are already at the proposed deletion stage, or the AfD stage. So, if merged, a slight re-wording of this project would be in order, to broaden the scope to encompass any poorly written article. Ariel♥Gold 16:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'll go on record as opposing a name change, at least until the AfD has closed and a discussion as to the best replacement name takes place. I disagree with merge proposal as this too seems premature and a basic overview seems to support that these are different in scope. The ARS work on tight deadlines with only articles that are threatened with deletion and have been tagged for rescue. Its tight scope helps focus action and the timeframe further focuses what actions are possible. I'm not terribly enthusiastic about the new section, I think some articles will be tagged and get little response and other will get plenty of attention and it's based on multiple factors not the least of which is an editor's interest in what they want to edit. Regardless the number of AfD articles and therefore rescue tagged articles is relatively small so I don't see the need to micromanage that aspect. If someone tags an article that could never ever be saved then it (and the tag) will be gone within the week anyway. Benjiboi 16:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- To follow along with the above, I think I'd like to see the merger proposal wait until after the AfD and renaming proposal have both closed. (Just to keep things simple). --Bfigura (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that this should be moved to a more general non 'Wikiproject' name like 'Wikipedia:Article rescue', 'Wikipedia:Article retention', or 'Wikipedia:Articles for retention' (to parallel AfD)... though the WP:AFR and WP:AR shortcuts are both already taken. The primary reason for the name change is to make it more of a Wikipedia process rather than a 'project'... a standard procedure in counterpoint to AfD.
- As to merging projects... WP:ARS and WP:ICU are essentially 'time sensitive' versions of WP:CU. The main difference is that ICU tries to get people to tag things for 'emergency cleanup' before putting them up for AfD, while ARS kicks in only after the AfD is posted. Other than this minor difference in timing (with ICU possibly avoiding AfD altogether if the cleanup happens quickly) the two are essentially the same and could be merged while retaining all aspects of both.
- On the template, I'd suggest merging it into Template:AfDM as an optional parameter which causes the additional 'please cleanup' text and link to 'WP:ARS' (or whatever) to show up when set. That'd remove any 'redundancy' with the AfD template because this would then BE the AfD template. --CBD 00:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I still don't completely agree with the move request, but the integration into the AfD tag idea sounds like a good one Fosnez 02:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- CBD's suggestions are intriguing, and I'd be curious to see how applicable they are. Ichormosquito 05:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Why can't we just limit Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit to articles that aren't at AfD? Ichormosquito 05:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I would make it a suggestion that ICU is for articles that aren't AfD but if you're looking for assistance on an article that is AfD they can also be refered to the rescue squad. Benjiboi 06:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- That's something that should probably be discussed on both pages (ie, ICU and ARS). However, off the top of my head, I don't have a huge objection to it, although I imagine it would lead to complicated logistics if an ICU article got AfD'd. --Bfigura (talk) 06:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, once it hits AfD it's a matter of days before one or both tags are removed so I say more help is ok. I'm missing what is problematic if both efforts land on an article at the same time. Benjiboi 06:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- That's something that should probably be discussed on both pages (ie, ICU and ARS). However, off the top of my head, I don't have a huge objection to it, although I imagine it would lead to complicated logistics if an ICU article got AfD'd. --Bfigura (talk) 06:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I see that the ICU has several templates, Template:Tl, Template:Tl and Template:Tl (under construction from what I understand); what if there was a {{icu-rescue}} template, in effect the same as Template:Tl? --Victor falk 06:53, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- In looking over both projects, This one seems more like a "task force" which has a time constraint, while ICU is more about general article cleanup. I suppose this could become a task force of that, but ICU should probably be merged with some of the other article cleanup projects. - jc37 22:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Archive talk page items
Someone please start the archive and clean off old threads. Thank you! Benjiboi 06:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Question
How many articles have you rescued? I see a lot of discussion on naming, templates, userboxes, procedures, et cetera...but I'm not seeing much discussion on helping the articles. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I'm just curious as to how many articles were saved by this process. ^demon[omg plz] 01:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- I was wondering the same thing but realized it's hard to say because this tag was added this article was saved. Benjiboi 01:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thats mainly because theres far to much discussion going on already. The Article Rescue Squadron doesn't talk about fixing articles, we fix them. Heres a couple of the ones I have been involved in:
- Exercise Robin Sage - afD - Prime Example of an article that should never have been put through an AfD
- Strong Bad Sings - AfD
- Steal This Film - AfD
- Radio malt - AfD (not tagged with Rescue template due to this discussion)
- Mzoli's Meats - AfD (this one caused some controvercy)
- Helvenston et al. v. Blackwater Security - AfD (this one started this entire affair...)
- Gumtree - AfD
- Columbia University tunnels - AfD
- Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity) - AfD
- Bolster Day - AfD
- Some people may complain that the above articles do not warrent a place in wikipedia. So I have linked the AfDs as well. From memory, most nominations were for Notability - and in accordance with policy, if notability is established via citations, then the article should be kept (after all we, are here to compile the sum of ALL human knowledge). I might also point out that the Rescue Squadron is only relatively new, and I only joined a month ago or so, and this small list of my contributions should not in any way reflect the value of the Article Rescue Squadron. Fosnez 02:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Two; in both cases the relevant AfD turned from a deletion chorus to consensus to keep based on the rewrite. I have yet to do work for the ARS, but I only just joined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kizor (talk • contribs) 01:57, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- When I first came across Article Rescue Squadron, I added significant references to at least five of the listed article. I don't recall the names of the articles. However, if someone can point me to a list of all articles listed by the Article Rescue Squadron, I can zero in on my contributions. -- Jreferee t/c 04:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
LA Times article
Two articles we worked on, Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity) and Mzoli's Meats, were both prominently cited as examples of "Wiki-wars" in this recent LA Times article. If you haven't seen it already, it's worth a read. Ichormosquito 04:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, I started that article! Benjiboi has done a LOT more work on it than I have though. Fosnez 13:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Last line: "Ultimately, Mzoli's was spared. But not until a gaggle of editors worked on expanding it from an afterthought to a more substantial portrait. Though it's still just a description of an African barbecue place, it's difficult to see how the world would be better off without it." Ichormosquito 16:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Louie Giglio
I added some references to Louie Giglio. Please add more info. Thanks. -- Jreferee t/c 05:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Radio malt
I added some info to Radio malt. If someone has the time, please add the info from Google books. -- Jreferee t/c 05:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
FreeLife
Not really a rescue (the article was mentioned at WP:COIN, but I added some references to FreeLife. If you have the time, please consider incorporating the information from the references into the article. -- Jreferee t/c 18:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Moving foward with the Rescue Template
Ok, the TfD is now over and one of the caveats of it is that we cannot use the Rescue template on article pages anymore, one suggestion by the closing admin was for a template on the AfD subpage (Quite a novel idea) Here is a quick example I did up, Feel free to have a play with it, it is in my userspace. - Fosnez 13:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I so disagree with it not being used on the article page in conjunction with the AfD template. It's how i first got interested at all. If it is vectored of to the voting page it seems, to me, that it would be campaigning for keep votes rather than for editors to simply improve the article. Benjiboi 18:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's a shame that we can't have it on the article page; I think it's useful not only to editors but also to inform people who've arrived from a "You won't believe what Wikipedia's going to delete now!" blog post that it's being worked on. Still, it's not something I feel strongly enough about to fight for, so working with what we've got: the template for the AfD is pretty; I think the important thing is to fiddle with the wording to make sure it's clear we're not canvassing for 'keep' votes. Perhaps, rather than "This article has been Flagged for Rescue", "This article may be rescuable"? (And we shouldn't need the "As an act of courtesy" sentence any more if it goes there.) --Zeborah 04:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Having only really thought about this after running into the TfD (and now being very interested), I have some thoughts. Firstly, that discussion to do with the template specifically ought to be on the template talk page - partly because of the idea of questioning whether ARS should "own" the template, and partly for transparency (so people can find the discussion about it where they'd expect it to be).
- Secondly, and more importantly, I wouldn't give up hope for it ever going back to being on the article page, but ignoring the TfD result because participants in ARS disagree is not going to end up with good results. If the pattern of use over a while is good, and arguments can be made that the results would be better if the template was on the article itself, then I think that there's likely to be a reasonably easy consensus to put it there again. Personally, I think that the most useful place for it given the TfD result is on the article talk page. SamBC(talk) 14:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm confused here. Y'all (yeah, I'm from Mississippi, we say y'all instead of you all) are saying here that we can't use the template on article pages but what I'm reading from the TfD does not say that. It says:
- Secondly, and more importantly, I wouldn't give up hope for it ever going back to being on the article page, but ignoring the TfD result because participants in ARS disagree is not going to end up with good results. If the pattern of use over a while is good, and arguments can be made that the results would be better if the template was on the article itself, then I think that there's likely to be a reasonably easy consensus to put it there again. Personally, I think that the most useful place for it given the TfD result is on the article talk page. SamBC(talk) 14:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- A template that can be placed on an article may not be the way to go (one could for example list them at some "WikiProject:Rescue", or the template could be placed on the talk page or AFD page), but a page template is noticed by passers-by far more than an entry on a project page or AFD comment would be.
- I don't read in that anywhere that says it can't be put on the article page, and in fact I believe that's exactly where it should be and it even says so by stating a page template is noticed by passers-by far more than an entry on a project page or AFD comment would be.. people come to an article page to read the info. They don't go straight to an article's talk page. So which is the obvious place to alert people that they should get involved in rescuing an article, the page they go directly to or a page they may never visit? Therefore, until there's something in stone that says the template is 100% not allowed on article pages, that's exactly where I will continue to put the template! -- ALLSTAR ECHO 16:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Read further down the closing statement. Most of it is a summary of the arguments on both sides, but it is rounded up with:
New version!
My experiments in breeding templates has resulted in this hybrid. Check it out in action here - Fosnez 11:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- If it is a good idea to have it on the AfD page (and I doubt that it is), then that's a very good hybrid. SamBC(talk) 14:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- The idea for having it on the AfD came from the closing of the TfD - Fosnez 05:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not to rain on your cake but it really does nothing for me. Perhaps there's some merit to separating the template and the project so we can get the template onto the article page without further delay. To me the template is simply impotent when vectored off the main page and incorporating it into the already ignored AfD template seems like a waste of energy. I do appreciate what you're trying to do I just want to be up front about what I'm thinking as others may feel the same way but might not bother to state it. Benjiboi 06:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- It did come from the closing off the AfD, and I did summarise that closing for the template talk page... but it wasn't a mandate from the closing, and I disagree that it's a good idea, for reasons that I think I've outlined somewhere. The main thing is that the template will get less useful the further it gets from the article. However, a supplementary template for AfD wouldn't be a bad thing, just so long as it's not the only tag. SamBC(talk) 11:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- The idea for having it on the AfD came from the closing of the TfD - Fosnez 05:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you all know that I have been working on the templates. Make sure you double check the two top templates here - Fosnez 02:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Template:Talkarchive Template:Archive-nav Template:Talkarchive Template:Archive-nav
Flagging
At present, nine articles are listed in the ATHBPFDBTMCET category. Hakomi and Starlight Information Visualization System are savable and I added some references. Jeff M. Giordano and Ron Kurtz are not savable. Hazy, nebulous topics such as Godzilla in popular culture, List of cultural references to Stephen King, Pregnancy in science fiction, Silent protagonist, and Society and Star Trek should not be part of this project. With only two out of nine article worth saving or consistent with this project, I think we need better efforts on determining what gets listed in the ATHBPFDBTMCET category and what does not. -- Jreferee t/c 08:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- What do you propose? To me it seems like the population of AfD articles is limited and as the tag expires within a week it's not that big-o-deal that an article could be tagged in error. In fact, I think it shows how neutral the project is, only articles that editors deem worth of working on get attention. If something is not savable then it will indeed be gone within a week, if it is savable and it gets worked on then it will survive until possibly renominated. Benjiboi 17:20, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm more in agreement with Benjboi here. In fact, from the titles alone I see no articles that probably couldn't be resecued if someone is willing to rescue them. (Having read Silent protagonist, that one at least is uncomfortably close to an exercise in original research.) Sometimes valid ideas for Wikipedia are presented in invalid ways; & just because someone puts them into a category for consideration shouldn't keep an Admin from closing the debate in favor of delete if there are no other valid reasons to keep the article. -- llywrch 19:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Probably even S.P. one could be done properly, if someone decided to do it from sources. As for Jeepday;s examples, i suggest it is particularly the ones he thins are nebulous which need our attention--the most salient objection to such articles is generally that the individual items are unsourced,and therefore not shown to be notable even enough for article content. That's the sort of thing we can find. DGG (talk) 01:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
rescue bots
Does it make sense for a bot to be created that would either alert us or simply removed the rescue tag from articles that aren't under AfD? I've removed another tag from an article but for housekeeping purposes it might make sense to have a bot do this automatically so that a tag isn't left for more than a day after AfD has closed or otherwise been removed. Benjiboi 17:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- My opinion about bots is that they've help create the situation that led to creating an Article Rescue Squadron. Until the number of articles tagged for attention by ARS gets to the point where one person can't flush out any expired tags in an hour's time, let's avoid using one. (Then again, if we find 100 or more articles tagged for deletion that should be saved, there is a bigger problem with the AfD process that bots won't fix.) -- llywrch 18:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Cuddly Duddly
The AfD for Cuddly Duddly is about ready to be closed, so I added the rescue template to the article and now am requesting permission to use the template. I did add references to the article and if you look at my comments in the AfD, you will see that this is a topic that can be resuced due to a mistake in the spelling of the article name making it more difficult to find references. Please add referenced material to the Cuddly Duddly article. Thanks. -- Jreferee t/c 16:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- I added some content and refs but it needs more like some context of children's TV in the 1960's? Benjiboi 19:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update. Article saved. Benjiboi 03:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hakomi and Ron Kurtz
I had placed the rescue template on the Hakomi article as well as the Ron Kurtz article. Someone removed it from the former citing it belonged on the talk page, however, this editor did not bother to move it. I have now put it up on the talk page. Whether the same thing happened to the Kurtz article I couldn't tell since it has now been deleted. A significant effort has been invested (by an ARS member, I believe) to provide the Hakomi article with needed references, and hopefully it will not be deleted. This is still uncertain, though, as the majority in the deletion discussion has yet to sway. I would imagine that it is feasible to have the Ron Kurtz article undeleted if effort is put to it, should the Hakomi article itself survive. __meco
- Note, both have been rescued. Benjiboi 03:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not so. __meco 08:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Huh!? What happened? Benjiboi 09:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Nomination for Rescue (Re: U.B. Funkeys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.B._Funkeys --JRTyner 02:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Rescue tag has been added for this article about a toy, it seems reasonably well written and needs references besides the new York Times article. Benjiboi 03:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update. U.B. Funkeys saved. Benjiboi 03:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm Not Sorry.net
More of the sources presented at AfD could be integrated. WP:STYLE issues. Handily passes WP:WEB. Ichormosquito 07:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've added some abortion tags and See also, AfD seems all keeps at the moment, please flare for help if things turn and the article needs TLC ASAP. Benjiboi 20:36, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Good job. It's starting to look healthy. Ichormosquito 21:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update. I'm Not Sorry.net saved. Benjiboi 03:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
2 articles tagged
Gay and lesbian retirement and Shane E. Burkett -- ALLSTAR ECHO 01:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Update. Gay and lesbian retirement deletion is up for review. Could anyone who is experinced with AfD and deletion review process please take a look. I think the article was wrongly deleeted but I may be missing something. Benjiboi 19:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update. Gay and lesbian retirement Deleted but overturned (likely to be renamed), Shane E. Burkett improved but failed notability. Benjiboi 03:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Librarians in popular culture
This wasn't much more than an annotated list but it is a notable topic. I've done some searching for sources and added some more encyclopaedic information to the page; I've also listed some additional sources on the talk page. However I'm quite busy in 'real life' at the moment and not able to do much more for a while so it'd be great if someone else could have a look at the page. I think it needs introductions to the sections I haven't looked at and some of the lists need pruning. Thanks! --Zeborah 08:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- "X in popular culture" lists are often deleted, especially list-style ones. Just trimming this article won't rescue it, it needs a total rewrite and a removal of most of the specific examples. In popular culture articles should discuss the impact on pop culture at large, not just play "I spy". --Phirazo 17:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's fine - if someone wanted to delete all the examples I'd have no objections (though I think very select examples to illustrate a point would still be fine, right?) I don't agree that it's about the impact on pop culture - as long as it's some kind of notable phenomenon in itself, which this is - but do agree that it shouldn't be "I Spy". I'm not fond of pop culture articles in general but this is a notable subject so any help you could give to improve the article would be really helpful. --Zeborah 21:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Even "In popular culture" articles I consider to be good (Nuclear weapons in popular culture, for example) have illustrative examples of a concept's use in pop culture. Specific examples are good, but laundry lists get deleted more often than not. Librarians as a stock character or a trope is probably notable, but I'm not sure who studies or writes about this sort of thing. --Phirazo 01:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, other than the TV Tropes wiki [16]. --Phirazo 01:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- The people who study and write about this are librarians, mostly. :-) There are plenty of sources - I've used several already, listed several more on the talk page there and can probably find more. If you or someone else has access to those journals and could write something based on those articles, that'd be wonderful; but it'd be equally useful if someone were to go in and delete the 'laundry lists'. --Zeborah 04:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, and we all know how crufty librarians are... Not too good at taking care of their laundry. Speaking of which, here's a very sick one that got nominated for deletion: List of fictional diseases (how it looked then [17]). I took it to my sandbox and cleaned it up. What I'm thinking of, is that they have a similar theme (no I don't mean librarians are diseases), and that maybe we should try to give them a similar format. Any thoughts?--victor falk 08:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- The people who study and write about this are librarians, mostly. :-) There are plenty of sources - I've used several already, listed several more on the talk page there and can probably find more. If you or someone else has access to those journals and could write something based on those articles, that'd be wonderful; but it'd be equally useful if someone were to go in and delete the 'laundry lists'. --Zeborah 04:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's fine - if someone wanted to delete all the examples I'd have no objections (though I think very select examples to illustrate a point would still be fine, right?) I don't agree that it's about the impact on pop culture - as long as it's some kind of notable phenomenon in itself, which this is - but do agree that it shouldn't be "I Spy". I'm not fond of pop culture articles in general but this is a notable subject so any help you could give to improve the article would be really helpful. --Zeborah 21:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Ghosttown
Ghosttown was saved, but now we are voting on if a reference should stay or go at Talk:Ghosttown, Oakland, California. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 16:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Also part of the deletion of Ghosttown is the man who's reference is used for the article: Dan Antonioli. Please help save this one too.
Case to consider
Please see Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_policy#A_Faraway_Ancient_Country. IMO this is a job for the squadron. Mukadderat 22:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Although the style in which it was deleted might have been harsh (I'm no expert on deleting things) it does seem hard to defend an entry for the book at this time as Google doesn't even pop much sources. Perhaps after some mainstream media coverage post some reviews of the book? Benjiboi 23:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought it will be clear fom the discussion: the issue is not this particular article: the issue is that the admin does not follow (or soes not know) policied about speedy deletion. If everyone starts deleting on a whim the squadron will be without the work :-). I suggest to discuss the issue. However if ARS is not a discussion club, but rather an action force, I can understand that. Mukadderat 04:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Tagged
Student Youth Network ---- ALLSTAR ECHO 03:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've added a handful of grants w/refs. Benjiboi 07:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update, article saved. Benjiboi 20:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Nody Parker
Tagged by User:Bearian. IMHO not really a candidate for rescue, the article seems to fail WP:BIO. --Phirazo 16:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Proportional approval voting
Tagged for rescue by User:Bearian. --Phirazo 17:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ivo Heuberger
Tagged for rescue by User:Bearian. This biography does seem to pass WP:BIO (a competitor who has "played or competed at the highest level in amateur sports.") --Phirazo 17:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update. saved. Benjiboi 07:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Talk page clean-up
Could someone clean off old threads to archives as appropriate? I'll do it if no one else wants to. Benjiboi 20:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done. I also cleaned up the top headers with a table. Complicated, but it works.--Phirazo 03:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, I updated a few others and moved them as well. Benjiboi 03:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Wooster School
- Wooster School 19 October 2007 by User:Bearian (AfD
- Update, Wooster School survived AfD. Benjiboi 04:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Christian vela
- Christian vela 22 October 2007 by User:Bearian (AfD)
Philippa Hanna
- Philippa Hanna 22 October 2007 by User:Bearian (AfD)
Shinnok's amulet
- Shinnok's amulet 22 October 2007 by User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles (AfD)
Assassinations in fiction
- Assassinations in fiction 23 October 2007 by User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles (AfD)
--Phirazo 18:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- update. Keep - nomination withdrawn. Benjiboi 07:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Rename
Now that the previous rename discussion (to drop "squadron") has been closed, I think I'd like to propose renaming to Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squad. There were several interesting suggestions in the discussion to replace "squadron". I think "squad" might be the best compromise. I haven't listed this on WP:RM, as I'd like to find out opinions here first. - jc37 14:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squid has a slightly more jocular attitude towards it, along with the idea of a many tentacled creature that at times looks unruly and ungainly, but when prompted into action, produces both a cloud of ink (article improvement), as well as high-speed motion (rapid improvement). Ronabop 05:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- You've been touched by His Noodly Appendage, haven't you? --Victor falk 10:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ramen Fosnez 11:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Template:Agree - I like Squad better than Squadron. Away with you, foppish ron! Neil ム 17:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ramen Fosnez 11:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- You've been touched by His Noodly Appendage, haven't you? --Victor falk 10:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I do think that squadron sounds wrong somehow... slightly more milataristic than I like. Squad is better. Squid is actually cool for a number of reasons, but might seem a little too... trivialistic. Shame, really. SamBC(talk) 20:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squid has a slightly more jocular attitude towards it, along with the idea of a many tentacled creature that at times looks unruly and ungainly, but when prompted into action, produces both a cloud of ink (article improvement), as well as high-speed motion (rapid improvement). Ronabop 05:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Can't say I have a problem with the current name. Ichormosquito 12:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I also like the current name. Perhaps the militaristic tinge will encourage us to be slightly more organized, systematic and effective as members of a team rather than is typically the case at Wikipedia at we attempt article improvement. Also, Squadron implies sexy aircraft and airlift into the work zone while easily home for supper, shower and cozy bed in between work sessions. Squad has an unfortunate implication of isolated occupation teams stranded in the middle never ending hostilities of unknown parties with irreconcilable differences shooting at every useful citation or insight added to the ailing article with no end or evacuation in sight. Aim High! Lazyquasar 05:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Requested move to Article Rescue Team
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move, per the discussion below. I don't feel comfortable closing a request I participated in, but this is overdue and the proposal wasn't supported by any of the commenters. Dekimasuよ! 11:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron → Wikipedia:Article Rescue Team — Military terminology might be exciting, but it's probably a bad idea in the broader picture —Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 20:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Survey
- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''
or*'''Oppose'''
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. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
Support. This doesn't seem very important to me, but it's clear that the current name bothers some people, and in contrast to the previous request, the proposed title here doesn't really change the meaning. Dekimasuよ! 04:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)Striking support. It now seems better to me to leave the naming of this page in the hands of the people who actually participate here. Dekimasuよ! 03:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)- Oppose. Team is military terminology. Making this a Project, or even a WikiProject, would make sense. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- No Opinion - what we do is more important than what we are called... see suggestions below Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 07:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose, unless this becomes a Wikiproject. "Article Rescue Team" sounds flat. Ichormosquito 20:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support move to Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion First Responders. Ewlyahoocom 20:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose what happened to 'Squad', as proposed at the beginning of the month and which seemed to have some consensus? Where did 'Team' come from? If we have to change, I'd rather use 'Squad' or 'Project'--Thespian 22:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose - And (as I proposed it), I agree with Article Rescue Squad. "Squad" also gave the semantics of "squad car", and "rescue squad", which "I think" is the point of the picture on the main page : ) - jc37 04:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose I still haven't seen an outcome of the change from Squadron to Squad and now we're talking about Team?? No thanks. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 05:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Discussion
- Any additional comments:
This blog post has convinced me that military terminology might be bad. Does anyone have a problem with moving to "Article Rescue Team"? Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 20:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- The blog you link to is a sad travesty completely misunderstanding the nature of an effective military. Any military that operates as it describes would frag itself long before it came within satellite vision or google mapping of any external enemy. Might be a better description of a corporate rat race environment but I am not sure, having left the corporate rat race after only a few years. For the anti military POV among us, consider the potential shock and awe of a squadron of forty or fifty people moving in on an article proposed for deletion who work cordially together and promptly split into effective volunteer teams. These volunteers have indicated that they are doing online research while those are hitting local libraries and these others are discussing formatting while that guy is taking notes from an online wikibook (while correcting typos and inserting questions raised elsewhere on applicable discussion pages) and another has asked for assistance from a Wikiversity reading club. She is looking for applicable online technical papers so I think I will review some of her sources and rate them as she has requested. Might be a good idea as policy to avoid voting on the articles for deletion pages. If necessary the material could be transwikied to a Wikiversity research project and then when a adequate grade article summarizing the results is available it can be transwikied (with appropriate credit given to the Wikiversity research team) back to Wikipedia. After all Wikiversity is not Wikipedia and has limited interest in hosting Encyclopedia articles. It is more interested in the educational processes, tools, etc. necessary to create them. Lazyquasar 06:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I certainly agree in principle. Not sure about the specific suggestion, though. Don't have a better one right now either, mind. SamBC(talk) 21:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- ARG Article Rescue Group or...
- TGTFA Them Goofs That Fix Articles ... it makes no difference. We do, what we do ... let them imagine us in camo if they need to, does their opinion matter (whoever they are)? Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 07:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Article Rescue Project (or Article Rescue Wikiproject) would be a good name, IMHO. I'm not sure if this group is considered a Wikiproject, though. --Phirazo 17:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- I feel that we should consider being a wikiproject, cute names be damned (although I love ARG!) let's focus on improving articles and I think, help improve the AfD process to set up more checks and balances so that articles that are on notable, etc subjects aren't sent to AfD which, to me, drains the wp community of resources spent better elsewhere. I would support Article Rescue Wikiproject and this might solve the issue of separatng us from the template if that would be the project template. Benjiboi 20:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- If it's the project template, that makes it even more firm that it be on the talk page, not the article page. SamBC(talk) 20:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- There's a difference between "this article is a part of blah-de-blah wikiproject" and a wikiproject relying on a set of maintenance templates. To me the rescue template is something (just like now) anyone uses on an AfD article; . If we formalize as a project we might also strongly advocate for other tags for notability, references, etc which are also mainpage tags that assist in articles needs being highlighted in hopes that other editors or experts can address them. Benjiboi 20:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- If it's the project template, that makes it even more firm that it be on the talk page, not the article page. SamBC(talk) 20:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Merriam-Webster defines
- squad "2: a small group engaged in a common effort or occupation"
- squadron as "2: a large group of people or things";
- team as "4: a number of persons associated together in work or activity". Ewlyahoocom 20:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- There seem to be several possibilities - squad, team, project, various other rephrasings - so I wonder if this sort of binary "Should we move to X or not" is maybe not the best approach. It seems to be getting us bogged down in "But what about this idea?" Would it make more sense to do it in two phases: 1) list all the alternatives and tally the votes for them, then 2) for whichever gets the most votes, ask whether or not we want to move to that? (Or alternatively 1) do we want to move to something else, then 2) what should we move to?) --Zeborah 05:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Aw, let's just call the project Article Rescue Spaz Attack. And if there is anyone left who thinks that's still too paramilitary, we'll put a call in to the Wikipedia:Special Forces Attack & Destroy Commandos with lots of Testosterone to reason with them. ;-) -- llywrch 01:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Saabs in popular culture
- Saabs in popular culture 24 October 2007 by User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles (AfD)
Right-wing politics
- Right-wing politics 24 October 2007, by User:Burntsauce. I removed the tag since the article is not up for deletion.
--Phirazo 18:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- By the way, am I correct to still be placing the tags on the talk pages, or have we decided to go back to placing them on the main page? Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- I honestly believe that's where the tag belongs and so that's where i put it, if another editor places or moves to talk page then so be it until this project's name, status and implications for the tag are resolved. Benjiboi 18:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the reply! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be a consensus for where the tag goes for the time being. --Phirazo 22:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, then I'll continue to go with the talk page as I did for Soviet war in Afghanistan in popular culture. Regards, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 05:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I put it on the article page because that's first landing for most people and most people don't do talk pages. If it's on the talk page, how do those "most people" know to "rescue" the article? Also, did I miss the consensus that rescue can only be put on AFD articles? I dont have a problem with that since there is Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit but I wasn't sure about a consensus on the issue. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 05:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I did find a bunch of reliable sources for the Afghanistan article, which I recently added and I made a couple improvements to the Saab article, so hopefully these efforts will help rescue these article. Also, we successfully rescued an article! :) So, I removed the rescue tag from that article's talk page. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I thought the idea was that articles not up for deletion can just have the regular array of clean-up tags (which Right-wing politics has now), and articles that may get deleted get a Template:Tl tag for more immediate clean-up. Right-wing politics isn't going to get deleted, no matter how bad it is, so there is no rush to improve it. WP:CLEANUP says there are 27,295 articles with clean-up tags, and I think Template:Tl is only useful if it is on articles that are going through AfD. On an unrelated note, congrats for saving Assassinations in fiction, and bucking the recent "X in popular culture articles have to go" trend. --Phirazo 17:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I put it on the article page because that's first landing for most people and most people don't do talk pages. If it's on the talk page, how do those "most people" know to "rescue" the article? Also, did I miss the consensus that rescue can only be put on AFD articles? I dont have a problem with that since there is Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit but I wasn't sure about a consensus on the issue. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 05:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, then I'll continue to go with the talk page as I did for Soviet war in Afghanistan in popular culture. Regards, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 05:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I honestly believe that's where the tag belongs and so that's where i put it, if another editor places or moves to talk page then so be it until this project's name, status and implications for the tag are resolved. Benjiboi 18:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Lake Ontario Waterkeeper
I think this one has been rescued already, but could people stick their heads in and double-check? Thanks.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 19:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- In particular, more RSs would be a good thing.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 19:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've added the rescue tag and done some other work; Afd is now leaning toward keep; numerous refs in Afd discussion; if someone has the energy simply sourcing then to the talk page would be helpful. Benjiboi 21:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Update. Rescued. Benjiboi 19:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people with multiple marriages
Anyone have an opinion either way on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people with multiple marriages? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 00:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I was going to say delete, but quite liked it once I got there. As I said in my !vote on the AfD, I think the cutoff should be raised to 6+ marriages, and I suspect more citations showing that the people are notable because of their multiple marriages would probably help too. I should have some time for that this weekend. --Zeborah 11:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- See my comment at afd: [18]--victor falk 12:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Comment on user:Fosnez's post-TFD question
Template:Resolved Hi, Fosnez,
I thought I'd reply on template issues here. I have two comments.
In a way, what I wouldn't mind is some discussion on Talk:AFD about an update to the template, that would take a flag "improve=1", which would add the text to the AFD notice "An editor believes this topic is valid but poorly described. If you are able to improve it please do so." I don't know if WT:AFD would buy it, but it could make enough sense to maybe discuss and seek views upon.
As for the actual template you're working on, can I suggest a rough draft something like this:
The Article Squad
Attention! This topic might be poorly written rather than unencyclopedic.
Deletion policy aims for improvement, for genuinely notable and encyclopedic topics. If you think this article could be improved to pass AFD, please consider researching the topic, and adding high quality verifiable content and citations so it gets the best chance.
I'm not saying this is "the best way to say it", and it might even be exactly what you don't wan..., but it might give ideas. It's the best I can think of on the spot. FT2 (Talk | email) 13:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- FT2 must have been using mind control on me, because I had the same thought while reading about the template being deleted. However, my take on it is a little different: there would be two values, one to flag the article for attention from the ARS, & the other for the username of an editor who will make it an immediate priority to rescue. Hopefully if an editor adopts an article to rescue, no Admin will prematurely close the AfD citing WP:SNOW; on the other hand, if an editor abuses these flags, & either tags articles that the editor never works on or tags articles that clearly are not salvagable, then the editor could be penalized for creating a disruption.
- In any case, the idea is to alert interested editors that an article of potential notability needs to be rescued. How this is done -- a separate template, changes to the AfD template, or someone simply compiling a list by hand or bot -- isn't important. While people will object to this because "this can be abused", what needs to be pointed out is that every process, policy & tool in Wikipedia can be abused; we're just trying to offer a means that is not as acrimonious as many DRV debates have been. -- llywrch 19:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- One way round that might be {{Rescue | [Names of certifying editors] }}
The Article Squad
Attention! This topic might be poorly written rather than unencyclopedic.
Deletion policy aims for improvement, for genuinely notable and encyclopedic topics, but deletion is usually appropriate so long as articles lack viable content of reasonable quality. If you think this substandard article could be improved to pass AFD, please consider researching the topic, and adding high quality verifiable content and citations so it gets the best chance.
Certified by: sample user #1, sample user #2.
- The point being that anyone who agreed, can add their name to the template. You can then gauge seriousness by looking at the names list. If it's certified by people whose input you don't take seriously, for example debate trolls,... or just by the creator and his sidekick... or people from the Squad who always use the tag responsibly... or by 3 respected AFD 'well known editors' whose opinions you usually respect... etc. This would cause the "abuse" problem to be self fixing, because each editor can quickly assess the credibility as they see it of the tag. FT2 (Talk | email) 11:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well that smells like vote stacking. Benjiboi 13:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- The point being that anyone who agreed, can add their name to the template. You can then gauge seriousness by looking at the names list. If it's certified by people whose input you don't take seriously, for example debate trolls,... or just by the creator and his sidekick... or people from the Squad who always use the tag responsibly... or by 3 respected AFD 'well known editors' whose opinions you usually respect... etc. This would cause the "abuse" problem to be self fixing, because each editor can quickly assess the credibility as they see it of the tag. FT2 (Talk | email) 11:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm.. Shouldn't be. I'm thinking about it as an experienced AFD closer, I think it'd probably be okay. It's not hyping up the issue, and its noting both sides of policy. I think it's probably safe. Deletion policy is pretty clear about the difference between "encyclopedic but bad article - improve it" and "unencyclopedic - delete it". As someone who's just closed the TFD with requirements for compliance and an eye to usage, it seems fair to give some pointers and input on those issues. What'd help is if you could explain more, the stacking concern you'd have? FT2 (Talk | email) 13:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, Deletion policy and AfD realities are two different things. Before an article is even considered for AfD it's to be improved with regular editing and if it can be improved then it's not a good candidate for AfD. Ignoring that policy has kept this group pretty busy as many of the articles we've looked at were certainly improved. Regardless, even if the spirit of certified editors was completely neutral I bet that plenty of folks would not see it that way. I also want to roll back all the complexity of all this - part of the beauty was the simplicity of a simply article tag that was added when needed then removed when it wasn't. I'm generally opposed to layers of process all of which serves to keep us from editing. If it's not simple to understand and execute then I don't think it will work. Every step of our eventual processes need to be simple and clean whether we have 50 or 5000 folks helping. Benjiboi 14:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's a matter for the folks on this page; my input is to help them, if they so decide, to decide with some outside input. But as for AFD reality, I like to practice what policy recommends. My own experience of this is that indeed, if I come across an AFD which is perhaps encyclopedic but poor standard, I will specifically improve it during AFD. Homosexual recruitment was one such, so (it turned out) was the borderline-notable medical researcher I myself nominated for deletion, Kevin Eggan. There iwll regularly be some articles that can be fixed rather than deleted, and should be. Whether this is a project that will help I don't know, but it's certainly a sensible agenda (unlike some). I don't know that despairing of people's willingness to help in practice, is a good basis for declining to make them aware they could help..... FT2 (Talk | email) 16:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, Deletion policy and AfD realities are two different things. Before an article is even considered for AfD it's to be improved with regular editing and if it can be improved then it's not a good candidate for AfD. Ignoring that policy has kept this group pretty busy as many of the articles we've looked at were certainly improved. Regardless, even if the spirit of certified editors was completely neutral I bet that plenty of folks would not see it that way. I also want to roll back all the complexity of all this - part of the beauty was the simplicity of a simply article tag that was added when needed then removed when it wasn't. I'm generally opposed to layers of process all of which serves to keep us from editing. If it's not simple to understand and execute then I don't think it will work. Every step of our eventual processes need to be simple and clean whether we have 50 or 5000 folks helping. Benjiboi 14:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm.. Shouldn't be. I'm thinking about it as an experienced AFD closer, I think it'd probably be okay. It's not hyping up the issue, and its noting both sides of policy. I think it's probably safe. Deletion policy is pretty clear about the difference between "encyclopedic but bad article - improve it" and "unencyclopedic - delete it". As someone who's just closed the TFD with requirements for compliance and an eye to usage, it seems fair to give some pointers and input on those issues. What'd help is if you could explain more, the stacking concern you'd have? FT2 (Talk | email) 13:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'd love to have something like the second version, maybe simplified--let me think about a version. I wish there were some way for a person to say, I've looked at this, and I like it. I like it signed--assuming it goes on the article talk page, of course--Obviously those who disagree with my standards will want to ignore my approval & it should be plain flat-out from the first that its a personal view. Consider something the reverse of Template:Tl for format. What i do now is simply make an edit and leave a summary saying something like "some spam removed since the topic is notable, more to go." or "Reference added to demonstrate notability--additional ones would help"DGG (talk) 10:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Robert Allen Mukes
Template:Resolved As of 10:21 AM on Sunday, 11 November 2007, the article still has the rescue tag, even though the article successfully passed its AfD as "keep". As I have been away for a few days, I wasn't sure if we're leaving the tags up even post AfD. If we aren't, then we should probably remove the rescue tag. In any event congratulations on a job well done with that article! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 15:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Update. Article kept, tag removed. Benjiboi 06:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
OS-tan
Template:Resolved Well established article (created in 2004, and cited by the media) up for deletion due to lack of sources. I'll see what I can dig up, but help would be appreciated. There have to be at least a few "Japan is weird" sources we can use for this. --Phirazo 03:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Rescued.--Sasawatcan talk and Edit 15:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
List of fictional devices in Futurama
Template:Resolved I placed a tag on this article, which another editor keeps removing. I believe the tag was placed in good faith, but I offer it up to other members of our project to consider whether the removal of the tag is justified. Please see this history. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- In my view, Le Grand is abusing this project. He places the tag on just about every article in AFD that he comments in. Deletion debates aren't votes, but he is trying to vote stack them by using the rescue tag.RobJ1981 (talk) 23:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- He is not the only one defending the article in question, so I do not see how this can be either idiosyncratic or unreasonable, let alone abusive. (And I do not see him commenting on all that many articles, so I cannot see how it is abusive in general.) It is always acceptable to improve an article during an AfD. Are you attempting to discourage it? If you disagree on the merits of the article, the AfD is the place to discuss it--I should mention I have no opinion on that, having no knowledge or interest in the subject. DGG (talk) 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, this organization would be greatly served by directing itself toward saving articles in the proper way, building them up with reliable sources according to Wikipedia guidelines, not attempting to filibuster AFD's with rafts of uninformed keep votes with reasons in no way related to either the nominator concerns or wikipedia policy. Please cease exploiting this noble venture to save random articles and save ones with real potential to become good articles if given half a chance. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- He is not the only one defending the article in question, so I do not see how this can be either idiosyncratic or unreasonable, let alone abusive. (And I do not see him commenting on all that many articles, so I cannot see how it is abusive in general.) It is always acceptable to improve an article during an AfD. Are you attempting to discourage it? If you disagree on the merits of the article, the AfD is the place to discuss it--I should mention I have no opinion on that, having no knowledge or interest in the subject. DGG (talk) 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Good Hair Day
Template:Resolved This article was created by a well meaning but rather misguided new editor. Could the squadron help out? The more I read about these hair irons the more I feel like there ought to be good sources out there but the only ones I can find are either trivial or unreliable like user contributed reviews. Basically this user and the article needs attention from someone who knows where to look for reviews in trade magazines etc. where non-trivial coverage by reliable sources is more likely to be found. EconomicsGuy (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Update. Article has been sourced to the roots. Benjiboi 05:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Vampire (Buffyverse)
Template:Resolved The Buffyverse is the subject of academic studies. Though I'm not personally familiar enough with the subject (I've never even watched an episode), I'm pretty sure that these studies must contain extensive discussion on vampires. Surely someone more familiar with the subject can rescue this article? DHowell 03:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Update. The vampire is saved! Benjiboi 05:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Fingerskate
Template:Resolved Remember fingerboards, the miniature skateboards you controlled with your fingers? Well, the article about them is up for deletion, which should be a perfectly notable topic (Google Scholar hits include a patent for fingerboards), but I need your help.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 20:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- article has been around for a while, seems worthy enough please add references. Benjiboi 02:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Saved. Benjiboi 03:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Template:Talkarchive Template:Archive-nav
Wikipedia:Featured article review/British House of Commons
Template:Stale A bit off-topic for this project, but the skills are the same. This article was written by User:Lord Emsworth some years ago, and promoted, deservedly, to FA. But this was before the days of in-line citation, and the references (which Emsworth appears to have used in his usual scholarly fashion) are listed at the foot. Would you be interested in rescuing this FA status? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- A bit of a late response but you might do better to enlist the League of Copy Editors; although the skill sets are similar the motivations and therefore style is much different and they are experienced at such challenges. Benjiboi 05:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
AGF is backwards with AfDs; and vote stacking should be irrelevant
Template:Resolved I've been paying more attention lately to the AfD process, after I discovered what to me is an obvious sock puppet who has done nothing but propose AfDs or (delete content)(redirect) since registration, targeting articles in a particular field, removing information, often sucessfully, that might be used as arguments against his apparent POV. (From the original edits, the target of his ire was blatant.)
What I saw, reviewing the successful deletions, was that, apparently, nobody interested in the topic of the article had noticed the AfD. In the field involved, many articles have been created by experts, and, indeed, their work frequently does not initially meet Wikipedia sourcing standards. A standard and legitimate response is to place a citation needed or other tag on the article, not to propose deletion. This particular serial drive-by nominator would allege content problems, sometimes claiming that finding reliable source would be impossible. Most nominator claims were false; for example, the AFD on one particular organization's article claimed that its web site was the work of one single person, and solely original research, when any examination of that site would have found contrary information. (That organization was probably of marginal notability at the time. Now, more than a year later, it is clearly notable, in my opinion, and I've seen excerpts from a forthcoming book about it, published by a major publisher.) Anyone who knew the topic would have recognized the misrepresentations. Yet, apparently, many vote on AfDs with "Delete" without actually doing any research. They seem to assume good faith on the part of the nominator. That's an error.
Basically, the common-law principle underlying AGF is that testimony is presumed true unless controverted. With an AfD, we have *inherently* contradictory testimony, frequently. We should assume good faith on the part of the article creator and all those who worked on it as well, so the claims of a nominator should *never* be taken as accurate unless verified.
In a number of AfDs, there was the AfD and a "delete" vote within minutes, not nearly enough time to do any significant research. At a recent RfA, I voted against an administrator candidate because he had been such a delete voter; in the end, his was the only delete vote, because this particular AfD got noticed by people who understood the field. When he noted that this was not one of his finer moments, and said he'd be more careful in the future, I changed my vote to support....
The claim of vote stacking is particularly interesting. Wikipedia process generally suffers from what I call participation bias. That is, a particular controversy may attract partisans; plus participation in many AfDs is very small. The latter may actually be quite proper, if those who voted actually did some research trying to find evidence for notability. However, the number of votes is supposed to be irrelevant; rather, the standard is properly the cogency of the arguments presented. Frankly, twere it up to me, I'd remove votes from AfD pages that are, for example, "Delete per nom." Likewise Keep or Delete votes with no facts. Voters should be *responsible* for their votes; a "per nom" vote should be a declaration that the voter has verified every fact alleged by the nominator. What should be actual practice with AfDs would b to separate "votes" from arguments. There is still room for raw votes, but, properly, the discussion of notability should follow standard NPOV practice, though with greatly reduced verifiability standards. For example, someone might argue based on personal knowledge. That's testimony, and it would be admissible in a court of law, so it should likewise be in AfDs; however, the source of claims in an AfD should be stated. "I knew him personally, and X was true, I witnessed it."
In one ironic example, the AfD for Blood electrification[19], there was a delete argument: "Proven quackery" or something like that. Now, if Blood electrification was "proven quackery," -- which it might be, it is certainly quack medicine in my opinion -- surely the proof could be referenced in the article, thus confirming at the same time notability and removing possible POV bias by not having that material included. However, clearly, there is an organization of editors dedicated to removing "quackery" from Wikipedia, even where the quackery is notable. In the case of Blood electrification, I found an FTC complaint (followed by a consent decree) against a provider of equipment used for this process, that specifically mentioned "blood electrification." Reliable source, notable quackery. These editors, or some of them, are not concerned with improving articles, they are concerned with, effectively, censorship, protecting the public from error and misleading claims. And editing articles to balance out POV claims in them, and to remove unsourced claims if they cannot be verified, that's too much work. Much, much faster to run an AfD. Almost all delete voters in the Blood electrification AfD, who presented arguments, claimed that the article was POV. I went over the article, removing nonsense, but most of it was already balanced, not POV, though sometimes inadequately sourced. And I argued that if anyone thought the article was seriously POV, and beyond easy rescue, they could stub it to a definition and give the article some time. Frankly, I don't understand why that AfD was closed as Delete. I see no explanation except for the number of votes.
Again, some ironies: there was a canvassing warning posted in this AfD. Yet no evidence of actual vote-stacking in the keep direction. The nominator did not give any arguments at all. My own review of the evidence presented was that (1) most delete arguments were based on alleged content problems, (2) some were based on an opinion that reliable source would be impossible to find, and (3) few were based on non-notability. Given that, with about an hour's research, I did find some level of RS, and reported that back to the AfD, I'd have expected the admin closing to pay attention to this evidence. However, there was no explanation with the closing, just "The result was delete." I can say what this looks like to me: Neil counted the votes and/or followed his own opinion. What policy or guideline was followed? Mystery to me. I've seen quite a few AfDs like this. When an AfD is clear and there is little or no dissent, and policy application is obvious, fine. But that was not the case here. I did not, in fact, see a cogent argument for deletion. --Abd (talk) 02:40, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Really thoughtful essay! I added a link to it on my userpage as number 12: [20]. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 05:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- passing by, I think the specific source in the blood electrification example given is not a good one--the "FTC complaint (followed by a consent decree)" takes place in every complaint FTC carries through to a conclusion, whether or not important. a routine law enforcement action does not make something notable. It's like deriving notability from a police blotter. This is not a comment of the debate over that article in general, just the RS example chosen. Disclosure: i !voted Delete, and will again until there is a real source. At this pt, the major source of notability for it has been the articles inserted on its behalf in WP. Not that I am happy with the way we do AfDs. The simplest thing that could help them attainable at present is wider participation, to eliminate the cabal effect one way or another. DGG (talk) 09:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, DGG. The FTC complaint contains reports of the advertising content used by the defendant. While it's not conclusive as a fact, it is reliable enough to use with attribution, and what is in the consent decree is even more useful, though far less extensive (I did not look at it again to write this). My belief is that an NPOV, verifiable article can be written on the topic, but it's work. I excluded Wikipedia from my searches, as is proper. I also worked on the article, removing inappropriate material and some POV bias, but to do a good job of that would have required much more research than the hour or two I spent, total. The point is that there is such a thing as "blood electrification," there is some theoretical basis in experiment for it -- used way beyond reason, as is common with quackery -- and there are products being sold to do it. It deserves a stub, at least. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abd (talk • contribs) 05:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- but everything is advertised, and not everything is notable. That's how the FTC came to hear about it. The content would be usable, if the subject were notable. DGG (talk) 20:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Rescue
Template:Resolved Template:Rescue has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Benjiboi 21:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep without restrictions. Benjiboi 03:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Why are you hurting Wikipedia? Stop hurting Wikipedia.
Template:Resolved You are bad for Wikipedia. Focusing on article rescuing at the expense of article deletion is Burkean Conservatism and based on the fallacious Precautionary principle. If there was a Wikipedia:Article Deletion Armada (an article I think we can safely say you'd support deleting), this wouldn't be a problem because the two philosophies would counterbalance one another. There isn't, however. You're an Inclusionist front organization and you know it. With your support for obscure internet memes, if you folks had your way, Encyclopedia Dramatica would not have been deleted and placed on the spam filter. Saving the blatant advertisement for Bawls is not something to be proud of, although the company that sells it likely appreciates your support. Zenwhat (talk) 09:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I hate children and rainbows.
- Oh, wait, I don't.
- I do like the idea of the Article Deletion Armada, which already exists in the form of people wanting to tell me what is, and isn't important. Some of them are well meaning, others, not so much, after their article deletions go from AGF to BJAODN.
- Seeing as how the bar for including something in WP is so low, what the ARS(E) end is all about is fixing things that belong, for some reason, in WP, not some wild-eyed "we must include an article for each belly-button lint color I had on each day!"
A couple of points Zenwhat. The Article Rescue Squdron does not stop the deletion of articles - we cannot! The ultimate decision rests with the closing admin. We simply bring articles up to the standards required to be in wikipedia. "Blatant advertisement" is no reason to delete an article when it has established notability and is sourced, as Bawls is now. "Blatant advertisement" however is a reason to clean the article up, as was recommended in the last AfD. Fosnez (talk) 11:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ronabop: Deletionists are like lone wolves. For some unknown reason (perhaps they are prone to some degree of elitism -- but it seems justifiable), they don't collaborate as much as they should. In a battle between one or two deletionists here and there and the squadron, the squadron generally wins. Bawls proved that, although I suspect you attempted to keep the article on Encyclopedia Dramatica up and failed because of how abundantly clear it was it was becoming a problem. You see the same issue from time-to-time with YTMND, when the internet memes article was often in horrible condition.
But there is further proof of the lone wolf nature of the deletionist: This discussion. It's just me, here. All the other deletionists are busy reading books on mainstream science, teaching college-level courses, and thinking intently on profound philosophical questions. Whereas Inclusionists are likely either--well--I dare not say. I'd speak freely but I don't want to violate WP:etiquette, especially not here where it would be suicide.
Fosnez: Yes you can, because you hijack debates through forcing a vote by appealing to the populist fallacy behind why WP:NOT states this place isn't a democracy. Frequently, in practice, Wikipedia works by WP:CONSENSUS where even spurious arguments hold weight. In practice, if there is a horde of users saying delete while citing as many unreliable and unverifiable sources they can rip from Google as they can -- if they are on an AfD, per Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administrators (which you guys have apparently mostly written), they are obligated to appease the mob's wishes. This is why this project has been a massive success at encouraging Wikipedia failure: It doesn't matter whether your arguments are well-founded. Just saying Keep - I like it is enough.
Saving articles in and of itself is not a good thing if they are bad articles. As a preemptive rebuttal to the question, "Who made you in charge of determining article quality?" I have three responses:
- I'm a Wikipedia editor. Removing nonsense is part of my job.
- Badness is not subjective. If it were, nobody would have any grounds to vote "keep," would they?
- A question, in turn, for you: "Who made you in charge in determining the quality of my determining article quality?" Sheer elitism!
Lastly, exactly how is Bawls notable? In conclusion, by supporting "wild-eyed inclusionism" and holding a monopoly of opinion on deletion policy you have harmed this encyclopedia. Zenwhat (talk) 15:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh and Think of the children, really do you need to repost your rantings / soapboxing so we all know you disagree with something. Wikipedia is not, despite evidence to the contrary a social-networking site. It's also not an appropriate venue to spin drama. Coming here to post knowing that this project is here to rescue articles sure seems to be baiting. If you want to improve articles please do so. If you want want to help this project please feel free. Benjiboi 20:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I can see your pissed about something, The ARS may have worked on an article that you personally deemed unworthy to be included in wikipedia. I am not going to change your mind on this subject, and you are not going to change mine. We have both had our little rants now. My final comment will be that the ARS is not responible for the keeping or deleting of articles, we simply edit articles to bring them into line with wikipedia policy. If you really want to put a stop to the "blatant inclusionism" I suggest you go and take this up with each admin that keeps an article that you personally think should be deleted or have the WP:N policies changed. Fosnez (talk) 20:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Zenwhat, of course saving articles isn't a good thing if they're bad articles. What the ARS is about is changing bad articles into good articles and saving those. --Zeborah (talk) 02:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- User:Benjiboi, you're being uncivil. (frowny-face) Why does it seem to me that inclusionists are like hippies that suddenly turn into werewolves when inclusionism is attacked? Should Deletionists be deleted?
User:Fosnez, Assume good faith. There were a couple ArbCom decisions I've seen that were horrible and I've found it very difficult to fix Austrian economics and Eastern philosophy. Both cases demonstrate the problem of inclusionism: In both cases, my arguments were legitimate and the editors didn't even respond. In the former case, I firmly stood by my edits, in the latter case I let them go. Thus, on both articles, nonsense is still up but in the case of standing by my decision, I was blocked by an admin abusing their power.
It's not ARS, specifically: I just think you guys are a part of the problem.
You do have a blanket policy of saving pages. It's inherent in the project name and goal. You constantly scour Wikipedia for pages to save and, even if you claim to evaluate pages on a case-by-basis (which seems dubious, because of stuff like Bawls), that is nevertheless a blanket policy to save pages.
It's not any admins in particular I have a problem with, because as I've said, this is a problem with policy -- not a specific issue of mine. You seem to be assuming here that I am just some kind of POV-pushing troll that was upset because I couldn't violate a certain policy. That's understandable because there are a lot of people like that. But there are also a lot of good editors -- including experienced admins -- who listen to accusations like that and simply leave Wikipedia. This is what could be referred to as "Deleting deletionists" and inclusionists suddenly turn uncivil when it's pointed out.
You are responsible for deleting articles because you're an organized mob focused on AfD. The claim "but we're not wild-eyed inclusionists" is propaganda.
Now, if you expect me to help shift Wikipedia away from inclusionism by speaking to every admin on every article on Wikipedia that opposes an AfD for silly reasons -- come on, man. That seems unreasonable. I'm only human. If you can't expect one editor to watch their own pages for AfD tags, then it seems unreasonable to expect me to watch every page on Wikipedia that is nominated for deletion. I'm not The Flash. I suspect User:The Transhumanist is, though! Zenwhat (talk) 16:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Are you claiming that Bawls is lacking notability? Ie. there does not exist multiple independent sources for it. Because that is the extent of ARS involvement in the issue.
Taemyr (talk) 16:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Zenwhat is blatantly uncivil here, and this whole section could easily be seen as trolling. Consider this from him, starting with the section head: "Why are you hurting Wikipedia?" with its incorporated assumption. Then, "You are bad for Wikipedia." I.e., personalization of the issue. "You're an Inclusionist front organization and you know it." So, not only are those involved with the ARS "wild-eyed inclusionist," but they are deceptive pretenders. "Who made you in charge in determining the quality of my determining article quality? Sheer elitism!" (If someone interferes with Zenwhat's doing his self-appointed "job," they are "elitist." ARS members are *not* in charge of "determining quality," but stand as equals before the administrator who makes the decision.) "...by supporting "wild-eyed inclusionism" and holding a monopoly of opinion on deletion policy you have harmed this encyclopedia." "Wild-eyed inclusionism" would be a philosophy of including every submitted artlcle. The MediaWiki software is, iu fact, inclusionist, for all ordinary deletion does is to hide articles from ordinary users. Any encyclopedia must create a hierarchy of knowledge, or it becomes useless. I favor allowing all users to see deleted articles (but not through the ordinary indexes), so I'm personally something close to a "wild-eyed inclusionist," in a sense, but most ARS members, I think, don't agree with that. They are simply trying to assume good faith on the part of those who write articles, and help them to create a legitimate article.
- Zenwhat continues, "All the other deletionists are busy reading books on mainstream science, teaching college-level courses, and thinking intently on profound philosophical questions. Whereas Inclusionists are likely either--well--I dare not say. I'd speak freely but I don't want to violate WP:etiquette, especially not here where it would be suicide." This is a remarkable piece of text in which he identifies himself as "deletionist," and then communicates that his true opinion of "inclusionists" would get him blocked. Which is *almost* as offensive as voicing that opinion; he has, in fact, said quite a bit already that is uncivil, so I can only assume that what he has refrained from saying would be, perhaps, scatalogically offensive, worthy of immediate block. He imagines that the reason "other deletionists" aren't backing him up here is that they are busying rsearching; yet my observation of the true "deletionists" mass-marking articles for deletion is that they too frequently don't do the most elementary research, they delete from their own quick opinion, or, sometimes, from bias. There is a whole debate over where to draw the line with Wikipedia articles, and, I've predicted, that debate is not going to go away, because it is inherently arbitrary and almost unavoidably elitist. But "deletionists" are, properly, those who have a strong opinion setting a high bar for articles to clear, and who are active enforcing this. Some of them are quite clearly sincere and work hard for the encyclopedia; but others are pursuing some strange personal agenda. And what Zenwhat is pursuing by posting his offensive claims here is not visible to me. He has personally attacked the Rescue Squadron and its members, but to what end? What did they *specifically* do to him? He hasn't told us.
- Then, when his blatant trolling is pointed out to him, he asks that we Assume Good Faith. About what? He has not stated his intention, all he has done is to claim that "we" belong in this or that offensive category. It's just about pure personal attack. Does he have policy changes to suggest? Does he propose that the ARS disband? Does he wish to change some piece of text, i.e., instructions to ARS members as to how to function? Does he wish to caution ARS members against rescuing "nonsense"? All this would be legitimate.
- Instead, he tells us that we are not as represented. This is, in fact, An assumption of bad faith, when he claims: "You do have a blanket policy of saving pages. It's inherent in the project name and goal. You constantly scour Wikipedia for pages to save and, even if you claim to evaluate pages on a case-by-basis (which seems dubious, because of stuff like Bawls), that is nevertheless a blanket policy to save pages." Who is "you"? Every member of ARS? Some particular member? I can say that I personally am not going to attempt to rescue a page of nonsense or belly-button lint reports. I'm only going to rescue a page that seems sufficiently notable to me to have an article. I had nothing to do with Bawls, and, indeed, the article somewhat reads like a press release from the company. But that is a *content* problem, not a notability problem, and should be dealt with through ordinary editing, with the whole conflict resolution process available if necessary, not through deletion. The *sole* question for deletion should be, in fact, notability. If a topic is notable but the information in the article is useless, any editor can stub it! There is no need to seek an AfD decision, and, in fact, AfD is not intended to be a response to content problems, except in certain narrow situations.
- And then we get to the point. Zenwhat is standing against consensus. "There were a couple ArbCom decisions I've seen that were horrible." I've seen some poor decisions, as well, but nobody is perfect. ArbComm is pretty solid, in my experience, and I read a lot of ArbComm decisions. Arbcomm does not make content decisions, they make process decisions, on behalf of the community; they are the only mechanism for doing that in the presence of conflict that is not simply the decision of a single administrator, in the end. (AfD, for example, may solicit much comment, but a single admin makes the decision.) Zenwhat then points to content issues, apparently, with two articles, and to being blocked: "I was blocked by an admin abusing their power."
- Here we come to the crux. If what Zenwhat is saying is true, there is process for dealing with it, and the ultimate appeal is to ArbComm. Administrators who have abused their blocking power have been de-sysopped. However, given Zenwhat's behavior here, I'm not surprised that he might be blocked. He does not seem to know how to behave civilly, to cooperate with people of different POVs to build the encyclopedia. Rather, he is right and they are [censored]. Wikipedia attracts far too many people like this; ultimately, we will need process to deal with such far more efficiently. Above, several editors patiently try to explain that ARS does not make inclusion/deletion decisions, that ARS only improves some articles so that they are not improperly deleted for content reasons, or finds notability proof when such is needed. And the opprobrium from Zenwhat only increases.
- He wrote: "You seem to be assuming here that I am just some kind of POV-pushing troll that was upset because I couldn't violate a certain policy." Actually, I didn't notice anyone saying that, maybe I missed it. However, reviewing all the above, I do come to that conclusion. The "POV" though, is not some specific position, it is the more diffuse -- and dangerous -- "I am right," vigorously defended, with "counterattack," even pre-emptive attack, against those he thinks disagree with him.
- He then continues: "That's understandable because there are a lot of people like that. But there are also a lot of good editors -- including experienced admins -- who listen to accusations like that and simply leave Wikipedia. This is what could be referred to as "Deleting deletionists" and inclusionists suddenly turn uncivil when it's pointed out."
- Again, who was uncivil here? Wikipedia is indeed losing experienced administrators, and, even more, valuable editors, because of the massive inefficiency of the system. Any admin, though, had better be prepared to be accused of this or that offensive behavior, it goes with the territory, unless the admin simply doesn't do much of the job. Who made an accusation against an administrator here? Only Zenwhat. So I decided to look him up. First statement on his user page:
- "I'm a polemic reactionary and a n00b. But I'm humble. If I say anything ridiculously stupid, call me on it and I'll likely acknowledge it." Okay, Zenwhat, you've said a series of things that are ridiculously stupid, I've documented them above. Your move. --Abd (talk) 20:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- OK, please, could you get a room so the rest of us can please think of the children? Benjiboi 20:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
A request for comment
Template:Resolved Your opinions, please:
And also:
Template:Quotation In the meantime, please see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of asteroids/7201–7300. Zenwhat (talk) 22:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- All seem notable and perfect for wikipedia. Benjiboi 22:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- What should we be looking for? --Kizor 22:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Operation Hump lead to the first Medal of Honor being given to a black man since the end of the 19'th century. As such it is likely notable. Tone of the article could do with some work. I will either tag or nominate Wolfie for deletion as soon as I have read up on the notability criteria for bands. There is no real reason to keep the lists of asteroids, but earlier AfD's have ended with an overwhelming consensus to keep so I acknowledge that there is no good reason to delete either. Taemyr (talk) 23:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Not nominating. I am unsure about whether criteria 5 on WP:Music applies. Also, linked to from wikipedia is this [21] which is nontrivial, reliable is outside my ability to judge. Taemyr (talk) 23:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I think, from the quotation above, that Zenwhat was actually referring to Wolfie (disambiguation), and just gave us the wrong link to Wolfie. However, I can't see anything wrong with that, either, except the "d"s on the end of "nicknamed". Kizor asked the right question: what are we looking for? AndyJones (talk) 08:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Not nominating. I am unsure about whether criteria 5 on WP:Music applies. Also, linked to from wikipedia is this [21] which is nontrivial, reliable is outside my ability to judge. Taemyr (talk) 23:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Operation Hump lead to the first Medal of Honor being given to a black man since the end of the 19'th century. As such it is likely notable. Tone of the article could do with some work. I will either tag or nominate Wolfie for deletion as soon as I have read up on the notability criteria for bands. There is no real reason to keep the lists of asteroids, but earlier AfD's have ended with an overwhelming consensus to keep so I acknowledge that there is no good reason to delete either. Taemyr (talk) 23:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
(unindent) What is this asteroid AfD? WP:POINT? It would be insane to delete an article out of a middle of a numbered series. I did a little rummaging about, and Zenwhat was recently blocked (Jan 10, 24 hours) for edit warring on an article, where he may have been acting to keep fringe theory out of Wikipedia. He's been apparently sympathetic with User:ScienceApologist, whom I've encountered as a strong deletionist when it comes to what he considers (rightly or otherwise) pseudoscience, and who recently expressed his dislike of Wikipedia on Zenwhat's Talk page.[22] There is, indeed, an anti-pseudoscience or anti-quackery "cabal," which, besides being vigilant in keeping fringe theory out of articles (notable or not), often has used AfD to kill articles on alleged pseudoscience topics, claiming "quackery," for example. (Which is utterly irrelevant. Quack medical theory deserves an article if it is notable, AfD is not to be used to control content, it's a blunt instrument. People need to know about quack theories if they will encounter them, which is the core of notability: need to know. Useful knowledge. If it's quackery, call it a duck Anyway, this leads me to a theory of why Zenwhat was trolling here. He wants to get blocked again. Just a theory, and I'm not a mindreader. What in the world are you doing, Zenwhat? --Abd (talk) 04:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- To demonstrate to you all how I'm not a radical deletionist, I created an article that needs expanding, the inclusion of references, and protection from deletionists: Ball shagger. They sold this item at Wal-Mart, when I worked there and it is, so far as I know, the standard term for it, in America at least. I was surprised to see that the article didn't already exist. Yay for me being able to be the one to include the information! Your input is appreciated. Zenwhat (talk) 10:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I suggest you read WP:POINT. Taemyr (talk) 12:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- As for the article, it already exists so I have taken the liberty of redirecting Ball shagger to Ball washer. Taemyr (talk) 12:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you! Zenwhat (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also, Taemyr: You misunderstand my intentions. It is not my intention to disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, but to help Wikipedia by making the point that this group's actions are disruptive. Zenwhat (talk) 05:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- You will note that intentions is not mentioned in WP:POINT. Taemyr (talk) 06:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Zenwhat, you have neither made your point nor your intentions clear, I suggest you do one or both at your earliest convenience. By now you should have a full understanding that we rescue articles from incorrect deletion by merely following guidelines and policy and improving them to a point that they are up to scratch for inclusion in wikipedia. If you still feel that this is not acceptable, then I suggest you rethink your involvement in wikipedia, because It'll be a cold day in hell before I/we stop improving articles nominated for deletion with resolvable reasons. Fosnez (talk) 07:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also, Taemyr: You misunderstand my intentions. It is not my intention to disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, but to help Wikipedia by making the point that this group's actions are disruptive. Zenwhat (talk) 05:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you! Zenwhat (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not going to bother continuing this discussion with unsubstantiated accusations of bad faith being justified by the fact that WP:POINT "doesn't mention intentions." ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 01:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just as well. We probably lost the possibility of a productive discussion on this matter two sections ago. --Kizor 02:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Proposed changes to rescue template.
I have made this proposal on the talk page of the Rescue template; Template_talk:Rescue#Other_proposal.
Discussion there has gone stale, is there anyone in ARS that has a problem with my suggested template; User:Taemyr/Rescue Taemyr (talk) 21:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:As this talk page is active please post here whatever proposal you have and link to your proposed template. Benjiboi 01:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
On further look, you got plenty of response but I will second what Fosnez stated that I find no problem with linking the template to our project page and will oppose removing that link. Benjiboi 01:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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Template:Resolved I added our template to Me and the Pumpkin Queen and have begun a pretty substantial revision since its nomination. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Bawls still needs cleaning up.
Template:Resolved It's been over a month since Bawls was last nominated for deletion. WP:ARS isn't supposed to be just about wikidemocratic vote-stacking. It's also supposed to be about cleaning up bad articles as noted above, correct? So, can somebody here work on Bawls? Is anybody here working on fixing it?
An anonymous user accused it of being an advert and I agree. Attempts to slap an advert tag on it, however, have been unsuccessful.
I would work on the article myself, but I think it should be flushed and I have absolutely no idea where you would find sources on this energy drink, other than the company's website or the "'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information" described in WP:V.
As an example of "I heard it from somewhere pseudoinformation", from the talkpage: Template:Quotation
According to WP:V, users should base their edits on verifiable, reliable sources and not on, for example, what they concluded from a conversation with their boyfriend, which is entirely irrelevant.
There are a few articles cited as sources, but they appear to be puff pieces published by less than a handful of mostly obscure organizations as infotainment. That Wikipedia should latch onto this poor journalistic integrity for the lulz is not a good thing and certainly not in accordance with WP:V or WP:Notability.
Then there's the links to websites owned by the company that makes Bawls. Does anyone here believe these are verifiable, reliable sources? ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 01:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Of course WP:ARS is not about vote-stacking. Articles are listed here to fix them & save them from deletion. And of course people will attempt to abuse this forum to save unworthy articles they wrote. However if people can't fix them, unfortunately they will be deleted.
- As for this article, I had a glance at it & I'm not entirely the article succeeds in explaining why it is notable; I only learned which country this drink is sold in somewhere down towards the bottom of the page! I'm left with the sense that this is just another unsuccessful product after reading statements like "Due to the lack of sufficient market exposure, Bawls may be difficult to find in certain locations". Does this product have a cult following -- if so, then adding this information would help save it in my eyes. Otherwise, if this article is deleted I'll admit that I won't miss it. -- llywrch (talk) 07:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sources exist, that is sufficent to pass WP:NOTE. My problem with the current article is that it is written as an add. This ought to be fixable, although the fact that it's more than two years since this AfD indicates that it might not be. Taemyr (talk) 08:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- My point about the article wasn't to state that the subject wasn't worth an entry in Wikipedia -- nor that its problems aren't fixable -- but simply a critique of it in its current form, & a very subjective one at that (as the phrase "I'm not entirely the article succeeds in explaining why it is notable" ought to signal everyone). Unfortunately, this item has not attracted sufficient attention to rescue it so it might just get deleted, which would not be the end of the matter were it not for the uncomfortable fact that some Wikipedians find one successful AfD discussion for deletion as justification to keep articles deleted. :-( llywrch (talk) 17:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sources exist, that is sufficent to pass WP:NOTE. My problem with the current article is that it is written as an add. This ought to be fixable, although the fact that it's more than two years since this AfD indicates that it might not be. Taemyr (talk) 08:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Zenwhat, your posts here seem to be baiting and although I have hope that you have familiarized yourself with ARS's structure and intent, which is pretty clear to most everyone else, let me state clearly that ARS is primarily to address articles that are slated to be deleted because they are in AfD process. Once an article is either deleted or saved then it is on its own. If you honestly are trying to help the Bawls article there are better ways to do so. If you want to re-nom for AfD I suppose that avenue is available as well. As for, yet again, stirring drama and accusing us of vote-staking, it's old and tiring, really I would hope you could find more constructive things then simply posting veiled attacks against this project here and elsewhere. If you want to discuss that article then take it there. Benjiboi 13:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I am not baiting here. I am assuming that your comments above about not being wild-eyed inclusionists were made in good faith. Based on that, I would like for you guys to fix Bawls, please.
At the very least, Bawls#References should not contain mostly numbered URLs to bawls.com. ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 00:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Zenwhat, your concerns may be valid but they are misplaced. The atlk about improving that article please use that talk page. This project concerns articles within the AfD process. Benjiboi 08:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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